Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

[Guest]

My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it since I
had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a new HP
PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the external
drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all files,
but about 30% of them are like this.

Is not...
program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
memory card (SD) - tried several
camera - tried at least 3
method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader

Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear the
same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same PC and even
other PCs and no difference.

A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but when
opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different - ie. one file
could be jumbled in one program, then okay in another program, sometimes even
in the same program if I log off and back in the files appear different.

I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help. I am
very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10 years are
destroyed.

Thanks for your help.

Kris

 

[John Inzer]

My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it
since I had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive.
Bought a new HP PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG
files from the external drive they appear with lines in them and are
all jumbled up. Not all files, but about 30% of them are like this.

Is not...
program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
memory card (SD) - tried several
camera - tried at least 3
method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader

Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear
the same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same
PC and even other PCs and no difference.

A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but
when opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different -
ie. one file could be jumbled in one program, then okay in another
program, sometimes even in the same program if I log off and back in
the files appear different.

I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help.
I am very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10
years are destroyed.

Thanks for your help.

Kris

================================
Just wondering...if the bad files are on
the external USB drive and are corrupted
even when viewed from a different computer...
why do you think Vista corrupted them?

Maybe the originals could be recovered
from the old hard drive?


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[Richard Urban]

Sounds to me like your drive was damaged and corrupted before you
transferred the .jpg's to the external drive. If you didn't check a few of
the transferred files after you backed them up - you'll never know for
certain.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
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[Mike Hall - MVP]

It would appear that whatever took out your main hard drive also took a shot
at your USB drive too.. I doubt very much that Vista was the culprit..

My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it
since I
had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a new
HP
PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the external
drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all
files,
but about 30% of them are like this.

Is not...
program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
memory card (SD) - tried several
camera - tried at least 3
method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader

Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear the
same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same PC and
even
other PCs and no difference.

A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but when
opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different - ie. one
file
could be jumbled in one program, then okay in another program, sometimes
even
in the same program if I log off and back in the files appear different.

I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help. I
am
very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10 years are
destroyed.

Thanks for your help.

Kris

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Adam Albright]

It would appear that whatever took out your main hard drive also took a shot
at your USB drive too.. I doubt very much that Vista was the culprit..

Typical fanboy response. This question has been repeatedly asked by
many people in the video group. You going to stick with your lame
answer?

 

[Adam Albright]

Sounds to me like your drive was damaged and corrupted before you
transferred the .jpg's to the external drive. If you didn't check a few of
the transferred files after you backed them up - you'll never know for
certain.

Twiddle dee and Twiddle dum. You MVPs are something special.

 

[Frank]

Twiddle dee and Twiddle dum. You MVPs are something special.

Is that suppose to be an answer or are you just testing your iq, mr genius?
hahaha...you are truly a stalking idiot who also just happens to be an
moron!
What a combo!
Go fukk yourself yourself mr genius!
Frank

 

[Guest]

I think it's Vista b/c even new photos fresh from my camera have this
problem. That takes the external HD out of the equation. The old HD is
fried and nothing can be recovered. I've tried everything and even had the
IT guy at work try his magic, but no luck.

 

[Guest]

The files were not backed up, rather they were copied from my old HD to the
external drive. Also, I do not think it's the external HD because even new
pics from two digital cameras (Sony and Canon) and two SD cards download
direct from the camera to the new PC with this problem.

 

[Adam Albright]

Is that suppose to be an answer or are you just testing your iq, mr genius?
hahaha...you are truly a stalking idiot who also just happens to be an
moron!
What a combo!
Go fukk yourself yourself mr genius!
Frank

Frank can't even spell f..k. Maybe because 100% of his brain is
corrupt.

 

[Guest]

Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the USB
is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera (2
kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took today,
not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.

 

[Guest]

All responses I have received so far are just defending Vista and stating it
must be something I know it is not. Is this a help forum or an advertising
forum for Vista?

 

[Leythos]

I think it's Vista b/c even new photos fresh from my camera have this
problem. That takes the external HD out of the equation. The old HD is
fried and nothing can be recovered. I've tried everything and even had the
IT guy at work try his magic, but no luck.

If you have an IT Guy at work, take the camera to him, attach the USB
cable, no need to load any software, copy them to his computer, see if
they are corrupt - if not, burn them to a CD/DVD.

If they are fine at his computer, then go back to your computer,
uninstall any software related to the camera, images, etc... Now,
reboot, and just connect the camera via USB, let the camera be detected,
copy the files to the hard drive, now open them from the hard drive -
are they corrupt?

Have you considered this could be a video card driver problem?

Change your video resolution to 1024x768x16bit color and see if you have
the same problem.

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[mistoffolees]

Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the USB
is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera (2
kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took today,
not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.

Just read what you have written. Nothing really points to Vista as the
culprit. It would appear, however, that the camea is a different story.
Just where or how were the SD cards formatted? Were they formatted by
the computer or by the camera? Most camera manufacturers, for instance,
recommend that the camera does the formatting of the memory card...just
to mitigate the possibility of corruption. And second, what was the route
from the memory card to the external USB drive? There are just too many
other intervening possibilities that tends to preclude Vista (or any
other OS) at this moment.

 

[noaim]

have u taken pictures today that u tried on another computer first?
if it is vista doing it make sure you can get normal pictures from the
camera on another machine. I wouldnt eliminate vista but becaues this is
the first I ever heard of this issue I surely wouldnt put all the blaim on
it untill you know for sure.

 

[Kerry Brown]

Can you view other jpg files OK? Can you download the files from one of the
cameras on another computer? Are they OK on that computer? Can you then
transfer them to the Vista computer? Are they still OK?. When
troubleshooting you have to come up with a plan to eliminate possibilities
one at a time. So far the the only possibilities you have eliminated are the
camera and the SD card, as it happens with two different cameras and SD
cards. You now have to bring another computer into play to eliminate the
computer. At this point it really does sound like a problem with USB
transfers. That is what all of the things you have tested have in common.
They have all been used for transfers to/from this computer. The first I'd
do is confirm that the USB drive, cameras, and SD cards work for read/writes
on another computer.

 

[GeraldF]

@microsoft.com>, (e-mail address removed)
says...

My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it since I
had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a new HP
PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the external
drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all files,
but about 30% of them are like this.

Isn't it disgusting!
My partner transferred all of his JPG and Ipod files to
my Vista machine because his Mac trashed his!!

They just don't make hard drives like they used to!!
Of course you had backed up with Backup Software and
restored in minutes DIDN'T YOU!!

 

[Lano DeMentar]

1st of all there is a Hard DIsk in the freeze technique to restore broken
hard disks.. I know it sounds crazy but many people say it works. see here:
http://geeksaresexy.blogspot.com/2006/01/freeze-your-hard-drive-to-recover-data.html

secondly there is a "undelete" program that can recover files even if they
have been deleted from drives.. even your camera card. This is a free one
but there are other better ones too
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html

Do a check disk from the hard drive tools to see if you can fix anything

 

[Richard Urban]

You have not yet done enough trouble shooting and "substitution" to
determine WHAT causes the problem. You are assuming it is Vista. You have
not eliminated the other possibilities or software interactions with third
party software. Until you go about trouble shooting this problem in a
systematic way you just don't know.

The fact that this seems to be a first would tell me that it is not Vista -
until proven otherwise.

Maybe you should take your camera and computer to a qualified professional
for service.

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You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[advisor]

Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the USB
is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera (2
kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took today,
not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.

I don't think it is Vista, and I don't think your drives are corrupt.
I think it is your new PC.

I expect your external drive and your memory cards are formatted as
FAT. The FAT file system uses clusters as the unit block of disk space
to store data. The way computers map clusters on to physical sectors
of disk space vary from one computer to another. It is often settable
in the BIOS (but if you find the setting, don't change it or you will
end up not being able to access the main hard drive.)

Historically, disks were addressed using cylinder, head and sector
numbers. But because the space allocated for these numbers was not big
enough to allow for new much larger hard drives, various workarounds
and newer methods of access have been devised, which are not
compatible with each other.

I think your new computer is using a different access method and when
it attempts to access the drive, it is getting different sectors than
the original computer did. The only way to prove it would be if you
could read the drive in your old computer or a similar make and model.
The original hard drive failed but couldn't you boot the old PC using
a recovery disc like BartPE and try to read the removable?

We sell a photo image recovery software ( Flash Recovery, www.diskinternals.co.uk
) but I don't think that will be any help in this case.