Website is jumbled on my computer only


N

Niagara Mouse

When I open a friend's website on my PC desktop it is all jumbled, nothing
lines up. My specs: (Windows XP 2) monitor LCD 17" resolution 1280 px x 1024
px using IE or Firefox or Netscape.

When my husband and opens the same website on his laptop it is fine. Also,
my daughter with her PC at work the website is fine.

Why is it all jumbled on my computer? I have tried changing my resolution to
a lower one but the site is still jumbled. I have even downloaded it from the
remote website into FrontPage and it is still jumbled. Any ideas?
 
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T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Sigh. Hard to try and diagnose without seeing the site. No crystal balls,
here. Please post a URL.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: When I open a friend's website on my PC desktop it is all jumbled, nothing
: lines up. My specs: (Windows XP 2) monitor LCD 17" resolution 1280 px x
1024
: px using IE or Firefox or Netscape.
:
: When my husband and opens the same website on his laptop it is fine. Also,
: my daughter with her PC at work the website is fine.
:
: Why is it all jumbled on my computer? I have tried changing my resolution
to
: a lower one but the site is still jumbled. I have even downloaded it from
the
: remote website into FrontPage and it is still jumbled. Any ideas?
 
N

Niagara Mouse

Sorry about that, this is the URL, http://www.artongoldcreations.com. Also
since writing my post I have found out that other people see the website site
jumbled too. and this time I tried to click on a link from the left column -
Frameable Greeting Cards under Products and it just duplicates the left
column instead of opening the link. My understanding is he created the
website using frames.

So again why is it jumbled on some computers and not others, and now any
idea why the left link is not working?

Thanks for your help.
 
H

Helpful person

Sorry about that, this is the URL,http://www.artongoldcreations.com. Also
since writing my post I have found out that other people see the website site
jumbled too. and this time I tried to click on a link from the left column -
Frameable Greeting Cards under Products and it just duplicates the left
column instead of opening the link. My understanding is he created the
website using frames.

So again why is it jumbled on some computers and not others, and now any
idea why the left link is not working?

Thanks for your help.

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Sigh.  Hard to try and diagnose without seeing the site.  No crystal balls,
here.  Please post a URL.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: When I open a friend's website on my PC desktop it is all jumbled, nothing
: lines up. My specs: (Windows XP 2) monitor LCD 17" resolution 1280 pxx
1024
: px using IE or Firefox or Netscape.
:
: When my husband and opens the same website on his laptop it is fine. Also,
: my daughter with her PC at work the website is fine.
:
: Why is it all jumbled on my computer? I have tried changing my resolution
to
: a lower one but the site is still jumbled. I have even downloaded it from
the
: remote website into FrontPage and it is still jumbled. Any ideas?

It is a badly written website and it's amazing (to me) that it works
at all. When checked with a code validator it comes up with over 600
errors. These need to be fixed.
 
R

Ronx

There are two main problems:

1) You are using VML graphics. VML will only display correctly in Internet
Explorer, other browsers will get poor quality .gif images instead of the
VML images or text (in text boxes) that you wish to show.

2) The text is too small to be read. Increasing the text size (even when
increased to Largest the text is too small) causes the absolutely
positioned VML text boxes and graphics to overflow and overlap - hence the
jumbled appearance.

See http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/vml-graphics/ for some reasons
why VML should be avoided.

Remove the VML and most of the errors Helpful Person mentioned will go
away.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Niagara Mouse said:
Sorry about that, this is the URL, http://www.artongoldcreations.com.
Also
since writing my post I have found out that other people see the website
site
jumbled too. and this time I tried to click on a link from the left
column -
Frameable Greeting Cards under Products and it just duplicates the left
column instead of opening the link. My understanding is he created the
website using frames.

So again why is it jumbled on some computers and not others, and now any
idea why the left link is not working?

Thanks for your help.

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Sigh. Hard to try and diagnose without seeing the site. No crystal
balls,
here. Please post a URL.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
message
: When I open a friend's website on my PC desktop it is all jumbled,
nothing
: lines up. My specs: (Windows XP 2) monitor LCD 17" resolution 1280 px
x
1024
: px using IE or Firefox or Netscape.
:
: When my husband and opens the same website on his laptop it is fine.
Also,
: my daughter with her PC at work the website is fine.
:
: Why is it all jumbled on my computer? I have tried changing my
resolution
to
: a lower one but the site is still jumbled. I have even downloaded it
from
the
: remote website into FrontPage and it is still jumbled. Any ideas?
 
N

Niagara Mouse

Thank Ronx, two questions: First I cannot see Helpful Person's reply at all.
It shows up in the post listing but when I click on it I just see a repeat of
my previous post.
Second, I am looking at the website using IE7 why is it jumbled for me?

Ronx said:
There are two main problems:

1) You are using VML graphics. VML will only display correctly in Internet
Explorer, other browsers will get poor quality .gif images instead of the
VML images or text (in text boxes) that you wish to show.

2) The text is too small to be read. Increasing the text size (even when
increased to Largest the text is too small) causes the absolutely
positioned VML text boxes and graphics to overflow and overlap - hence the
jumbled appearance.

See http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/vml-graphics/ for some reasons
why VML should be avoided.

Remove the VML and most of the errors Helpful Person mentioned will go
away.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Niagara Mouse said:
Sorry about that, this is the URL, http://www.artongoldcreations.com.
Also
since writing my post I have found out that other people see the website
site
jumbled too. and this time I tried to click on a link from the left
column -
Frameable Greeting Cards under Products and it just duplicates the left
column instead of opening the link. My understanding is he created the
website using frames.

So again why is it jumbled on some computers and not others, and now any
idea why the left link is not working?

Thanks for your help.

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Sigh. Hard to try and diagnose without seeing the site. No crystal
balls,
here. Please post a URL.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
message
: When I open a friend's website on my PC desktop it is all jumbled,
nothing
: lines up. My specs: (Windows XP 2) monitor LCD 17" resolution 1280 px
x
1024
: px using IE or Firefox or Netscape.
:
: When my husband and opens the same website on his laptop it is fine.
Also,
: my daughter with her PC at work the website is fine.
:
: Why is it all jumbled on my computer? I have tried changing my
resolution
to
: a lower one but the site is still jumbled. I have even downloaded it
from
the
: remote website into FrontPage and it is still jumbled. Any ideas?
 
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R

Ronx

Check View->Text Size.

When set to Normal, the home page is not jumbled in IE8. When set to
Larger or Largest, the page is jumbled.

Helpful Person's reply is at the bottom of the post.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Niagara Mouse said:
Thank Ronx, two questions: First I cannot see Helpful Person's reply at
all.
It shows up in the post listing but when I click on it I just see a
repeat of
my previous post.
Second, I am looking at the website using IE7 why is it jumbled for me?

Ronx said:
There are two main problems:

1) You are using VML graphics. VML will only display correctly in
Internet
Explorer, other browsers will get poor quality .gif images instead of
the
VML images or text (in text boxes) that you wish to show.

2) The text is too small to be read. Increasing the text size (even
when
increased to Largest the text is too small) causes the absolutely
positioned VML text boxes and graphics to overflow and overlap - hence
the
jumbled appearance.

See http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/vml-graphics/ for some reasons
why VML should be avoided.

Remove the VML and most of the errors Helpful Person mentioned will go
away.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

message
Sorry about that, this is the URL, http://www.artongoldcreations.com.
Also
since writing my post I have found out that other people see the
website
site
jumbled too. and this time I tried to click on a link from the left
column -
Frameable Greeting Cards under Products and it just duplicates the
left
column instead of opening the link. My understanding is he created the
website using frames.

So again why is it jumbled on some computers and not others, and now
any
idea why the left link is not working?

Thanks for your help.

:

Sigh. Hard to try and diagnose without seeing the site. No crystal
balls,
here. Please post a URL.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
message
: When I open a friend's website on my PC desktop it is all jumbled,
nothing
: lines up. My specs: (Windows XP 2) monitor LCD 17" resolution 1280
px
x
1024
: px using IE or Firefox or Netscape.
:
: When my husband and opens the same website on his laptop it is
fine.
Also,
: my daughter with her PC at work the website is fine.
:
: Why is it all jumbled on my computer? I have tried changing my
resolution
to
: a lower one but the site is still jumbled. I have even downloaded
it
from
the
: remote website into FrontPage and it is still jumbled. Any ideas?
 

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