VERY slow shutdown?

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nooneimportant

Sure its a common problem, but haven't found many decent ideas on google to
resolve it. I am running on a homebuilt machine, XPpro on ASUS P4C800E
Delux mobo, P4 3.2(not OC), WD120SATA HDD (single drive no RAID), 512
Mushkin DDR, Generic ATI9800PRO 128MB grafx (don't remember man... but
wasn't ATI.) When i elect to shut down or restart it literally takes five
minuts from the time i click Shutdown/Restart for it to actually do so,
however hibernation is almost instant, and is how i usually powerdown. I
have tried shutting down software (namely Norton AV) to no avail. Also when
it finally does go to the blue shutdown screen it spends quite a bit of time
"Closing Network Connections" The network consists of one other desktup
running XPhome, and a laptop running XPpro, both of them shutdown quickly
and quietly. All are behind Linksys firewall/router(wired). Router
connected to cablemodem. Have taken all systems to STATIC IP addresses
thinking that it may be due to DCHP issues with router, but still no
resoltion. Any ideas on what to look at next?
 
N

nooneimportant

Its empty, and only the essentials are on the MSCONFIG startup tab...
Adaware and SpybotSD report nothing substantial as well....
 
J

Jim Byrd

Hi No One - The following is an older post of mine relating to a similar
problem in Win2kPro. Some of it won't apply, (obviously), but it may give
you some ideas of things to check.



You might want to check and see if you've installed Hotfix Q329170. If so,
and unless you're sure you need it, it apparently causes major slowdowns on
shutdown and should be removed. See here to decide about whether you need
this hotfix: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=329170. There's been a lot
of discussion about this in microsoft.public.win2000.general nws gp
recently. If you decide to remove it, go to your Control Panel|Add/Remove
Programs and see if Q329170 is listed as installed and, if so, remove it.

This "hotfix" is also installed as part of SP4, and thus can't be removed
separately if you've installed that.

If you decide that you do need to keep it, or you have SP4 installed, an
alternative that's been proposed that will allow you to be able to exit
normally even with the hotfix is to run "net stop spooler" (without the
quotes) from a cmd window before shutdown. You might want to consider
adding that to a logout script that stops the spooler at shutdown, and kept
the hotfix in that case. (I've verified that this works, BTW.)

MS has a fix available if you phone them. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;814770


plus (Courtesy of Steve Parry)

start > run > gpedit.msc > Computer Configuration> Administrative Template
System > Logon > Maximum retries to unload and update user profile ... set
enabled and to say 5 ... default if not configured is 60!!

and then (added by me) set waittokillservicetimeout at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control

to 5000 ms instead of the default 20000.

(I can verify that these last two make a HUGH difference in shutdown times.)

Two last areas to check. Unless you actually use them, it has been reported
that unchecking Enable Offline Files in Folder Options|Offline Files tab
substantially decreases the shutdown time (presumtively by eliminating the
"Synchronize all offline files" step). And check and be sure that you don't
unintentionally have Clear the Windows Paging File turned on. See here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q314834


--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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G

Guest

owch, thats a longtime for such a fast computer. I recomend linux, but if your a windows guy. Change your shutdown delay in your bios to instant off. Then instead of pushing the shutdown button just push the power button on your computer or just unplug it. Perhaps its not the safest approach but when you want speed thats how its done.
 
P

Picsou

Hello,
I have had this kind of problems due to the following things :
- after having installed Drive Image 7
- after having installed one of these programs that cleans up your history
w.r.t. internet and computer activities.
Is this applicable to you too ? If yes, I might have something more to
explain to you.
 
P

Picsou

I do not know what history scrubbers are, but here is my story anyway:

I have been using Drive Image up till version 6 (=2002) without any problem.
Version 6 is doing just fine on my Win XP machine.

And then I bought version 7.0
My machine shut-down became slow slow slow.
I went back to a version 6 (via a restore of a C-drive image made with
version 6) and the problem was gone.

That is what I have been doing back and forth for a couple of times and my
machine became a turtle while shutting down each time I had Drive Image 7
installed.

I understood that DI7 installs (alright) but keeps also running a certain
service (not necessary and most useless in all normal cercumstances) to make
the start of an image-procedure more speedy ( as if I am making an image of
my hard drive every one and a halve minute).

Closing down your computer can only happen after having closed down this
service. And this takes ...... time.

That is why I went back to DI6 and I am happy again.
What a pity for the wasted money that I payed for DI7.
PowerQuest (now Symantec) will never be able to convince me buying a new
version again because eerything that one ever need is available on a free
CD-ROM image called "Hiren's Boot CD".

Have a nice weekend.
 
C

cquirke (MVP Win9x)

Change your shutdown delay in your bios to instant off. Then instead of pushing
the shutdown button just push the power button on your computer or just unplug it.
Perhaps its not the safest approach

No; it's a bloody stupid approach that anyone with two brain cells
would avoid. The automatic ChkDsk will automatically kill, bury and
deny, so it may be a while before you realise why this is a bad idea.


-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
Running Windows-based av to kill active malware is like striking
a match to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol.
 
N

nooneimportant

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY... thats why i didn't do that... pretty damn stupid to
do instant shutdowns without executing a shutdown command.... may get away
with it 90% of the time... but eventually its gonna catch up with you.....
 
A

Alex Nichol

cquirke said:
No; it's a bloody stupid approach that anyone with two brain cells
would avoid. The automatic ChkDsk will automatically kill, bury and
deny, so it may be a while before you realise why this is a bad idea.

For that reason I think it is a good idea to change the Option in Power
options - Advanced to 'When I push the power button' - Shut down. Then
pushing it initiates the proper shutdown sequence, and say little
Johnny pushing the button to 'see what happens' can't do any real harm
 
N

nooneimportant

Alex Nichol said:
For that reason I think it is a good idea to change the Option in Power
options - Advanced to 'When I push the power button' - Shut down. Then
pushing it initiates the proper shutdown sequence, and say little
Johnny pushing the button to 'see what happens' can't do any real harm

I have mine set to hibernate, cus like i said in origonal post, it does
hibernate almost instantly, just for some reason shutdowns/restarts are what
takes forever....
 

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