Using a recovery or restore cd on another computer?

[Bruce Chambers]

Will a BIOS locked Win98 CD work as qualifying media when using XP
Upgrade and clean install?

Haven't had occasion to try, but I'd think so, as long as it's a true
installation CD, complete with the "\Win98" folder and *.cab
files; an OEM "Recovery/Restore" CD will not work for this purpose. In
this case, the Setup routine on the Win9x CD is never initiated, so it
shouldn't be able to check the BIOS.


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[Ken Blake, MVP]

Will a BIOS locked Win98 CD work as qualifying media when using XP
Upgrade and clean install?

I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that the answer is yes. I've never heard
of any kind of installation CD from WIndows 95 on that didn't work.

 

[Steve N.]

Haven't had occasion to try, but I'd think so, as long as it's a
true installation CD, complete with the "\Win98" folder and *.cab
files; an OEM "Recovery/Restore" CD will not work for this purpose. In
this case, the Setup routine on the Win9x CD is never initiated, so it
shouldn't be able to check the BIOS.

Thanks Bruce. That's what I think, too, but I haven't had occaiion to
try either.

Steve N.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

Ah! I'd encountered BIOS-locked OEM Win2K and WinMe installation CDs,
but hadn't come across one for Win98. It's interesting to note that
such anti-theft measures started so long ago.

Win98 Dell CDs did not have bios lock. I have lots of Win98 CDs and I
have usaed them from time to time on other RM machines for testing
purposes and to replicate students problems on their laptops. This is
no longer the case as we have stopped supporting Pre Win2k OS. This
worked in our favour with MS UK when we upgraded our licenses to WinXP
Professional.

As to WinME and Win2k I don't know as we skipped WinME generation and
for Win2k we had volume license specific to academic institutions in the
UK. So we had only one Media and one PID which we were authorized to
use and sell to our students as we wished. It was amazing to find that
although the charge or CD copying was minimal, students were not
interested to buy special CDs we were supplying. Perhaps, this is a
phenomenon in the western world where people would take it free if
readily available. Japanese students have different mentality! They
are willing to pay for a service and to buy the CDs for convenience!

hth

 

[Sunny]

I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that the answer is yes. I've never
heard of any kind of installation CD from WIndows 95 on that didn't work.

The "Recovery" Win 95 CD for the IBM Aptiva didn't.
All the files on the CD were zipped and a password needed to access them.
(When I complained to Microsoft OEM Division they sent me a "real" OEM CD)

IBM started including Real CDs sometime after that.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

You can deny it exists all you want.
The fact is I have a BIOS locked Windows 98SE Dell here right now.
Perhaps what you say applies to Windows 98, but it clearly does not apply to
Windows 98SE.
I do not know what you have and would not presume to, and you should not as
well.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

what have I said in my message? Have you read it? I can send an ISO of
my Win98CD if this is what you want to prove my point!!. As if I have
to!

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

The "Recovery" Win 95 CD for the IBM Aptiva didn't.

Please note that I said "installation CD." That was specifically meant to
exclude recovery CDs.

However, recovery CDs *can* be used,. It's more complicated, but it *can* be
done. First restore from the Recovery CD. Then run the XP upgrade CD from
within that restored system, and change from Upgrade to New Install. When it
asks where, press Esc to delete the partition and start over.

 

[Sunny]

Please note that I said "installation CD." That was specifically meant to
exclude recovery CDs.

However, recovery CDs *can* be used,. It's more complicated, but it *can*
be done. First restore from the Recovery CD. Then run the XP upgrade CD
from within that restored system, and change from Upgrade to New Install.
When it asks where, press Esc to delete the partition and start over.

Points taken, however, at the time I really wanted a clean install, without
all the "Aptiva.IBM Enhancements"

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

I have read your post.
I am not talking about your CD so sending me an ISO or even the original CD
will prove nothing.
I am saying I have a Dell BIOS locked Windows 98SE CD.
You say "Win98 Dell CDs did not have bios lock." Which I know for a fact to
be false (at least Windows 98SE) since I have one here.
Read my posts again.

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[ANONYMOUS]

Well we have a stalemate here. i am saying I have Win98 CD. You are
saying you have Win98SE CD. Clearly these are two different products we
are talking about.

How can you say "I know for a fact to be false (at least Windows 98SE)
since I have one here." You are talking about a completely different
product to justify your original mistake. I too have the CD infront of
me. You are clearly giving misleading and incorrect information about
Win98 DELL CD. you should stop this immediately.

I have never said I have Dell Win98SE CD. Show me where did I say on
this particular thread.

you cleared misunderstood my message and now you are justifying your
written work by rubbishing what i have never said or claimed.

Do you accept that there is a WIN98 and WIN98SE - TWO different products
or two editions of Win98? If you don't accept this then you are clearly
an idiot.

Hope this has helped you to be more careful in the future.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Read my other posts ...again for the first time.

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[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Steve;
I just got around to trying it yesterday.
Windows XP Pro upgrade started on a clean hard drive, deleted all partitions
before starting.
Qualifying CD was asked for.
I inserted my Dell Windows 98SE BIOS locked CD and it was recognized as
qualifying media.
The computer is an older Gateway.
Apparently the CD will work as qualifying media on any computer but will not
install on a non Dell.

 

[Steve N.]

Steve;
I just got around to trying it yesterday.
Windows XP Pro upgrade started on a clean hard drive, deleted all partitions
before starting.
Qualifying CD was asked for.
I inserted my Dell Windows 98SE BIOS locked CD and it was recognized as
qualifying media.
The computer is an older Gateway.
Apparently the CD will work as qualifying media on any computer but will not
install on a non Dell.

Cool! Thanks for doing the experiment, JJ.

Steve N.

 

[Dragunov]

*Hi, my old computer just completely died. I have the restore CD and
am
purchasing a new used computer from a friend....but he wiped out all
the hard drive data, etc, so no OS. Now, can I use my restore or
recovery disk to get my newest one up and running. I keep hearing,
that
you can't by everyone on the Net. However, the third day and one
other
time, the whole thing crashed and I used the restore disk to repair
it.
The Windows software is on this cd, not on a separate one, so I
don't
understand why you can't use it. Please enlighten me if this can be
done and why, if not. If the hard drive on the new used computer is
blank, why wouldn't it accept the restore CD, if set to boot from CD.
I
have my suspicions that this can be done, but noone wants to admit
it
for software piracy and reuse issues. Anyway, will await your
expertise, appreciate it, Derek *

It will only work if the new computer is an exact duplicate of the
original. Otherwise, it will not work.

 

[meecari]

I'm sure this question gas been addressed several times throughout this post,
but I'll still ask, just so that I trully understand. I recently had to
crash my computer and the operating system cd I had would not work, saying
that the version of windows on the cd was too old. Because of this, I
re-installed windows from a disc from a different computer, I didn't know
that was such a no-no. What can I do to correct the problem, as I am unable
to activate windows?

 

[Xandros]

As Carey pointed out you need to purchase another copy of XP and install it.