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Guest

Can anyone tell me why UAC prevents java applets like chat windows in IE7 to
not work? By not work, I mean when the webpage loads, there is a small box
with a red "x" in it. I have installed the newest version of Sun java's
software that supposedly they say is compatible with Vista. I uninstalled it
and reinstalled it twice with no error messages, but still these will not
work. This behavior has just started several days ago. To me, I shouldn't
have to compromise security to get java applets to work- that doesn't make
sense. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oh- I am running
Windows Vista Home Premium.
 
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Ian Betts

Cammac468 said:
Can anyone tell me why UAC prevents java applets like chat windows in IE7
to
not work? By not work, I mean when the webpage loads, there is a small box
with a red "x" in it. I have installed the newest version of Sun java's
software that supposedly they say is compatible with Vista. I uninstalled
it
and reinstalled it twice with no error messages, but still these will not
work. This behavior has just started several days ago. To me, I shouldn't
have to compromise security to get java applets to work- that doesn't make
sense. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oh- I am running
Windows Vista Home Premium.


The Red X just indicated that java or other type of web elements are not
loading.

Java is normally required so go here:

http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp

And make sure you download it and install it.
 
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Charlie Tame

Ian said:
The Red X just indicated that java or other type of web elements are not
loading.

Java is normally required so go here:

http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp

And make sure you download it and install it.

Example of Microsoft Fanboy's reading ability.

OP says "I uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice with no error
messages, but still these will not work".

Tech wizard fanboy replies "And make sure you download it and install it."
 
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Peter Foldes

Ian read and understood it perfectly. He also gave a good possibility to fixing the issue that the OP is experiencing.
The Op has perfectly stated his\her issue and you do not need any or is there any error message with that issue of the red X.
 
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Charlie Tame

Peter said:
Ian read and understood it perfectly. He also gave a good possibility to fixing the issue that the OP is experiencing.
The Op has perfectly stated his\her issue and you do not need any or is there any error message with that issue of the red X.


The OP appears to be under the impression that he / she HAS installed
the necessary software, what else is the reference to "Sun's Java software".

What is achieved by telling them to download it again?
 
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Ian Betts

Charlie Tame said:
Example of Microsoft Fanboy's reading ability.

OP says "I uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice with no error messages,
but still these will not work".

Tech wizard fanboy replies "And make sure you download it and install it."
Oh dear, are you really that dim. Yes, it was download twice. The user has
grave doubts. Reassurance is what was needed not your idiotic remark.
 
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Ian Betts

Charlie Tame said:
The OP appears to be under the impression that he / she HAS installed the
necessary software, what else is the reference to "Sun's Java software".

What is achieved by telling them to download it again?
Everything is achieved by reassurance
 
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norm

Ian said:
Everything is achieved by reassurance
When one downloads and installs java, one can check that it is working
after the installation right at the download site. Just click the verify
button after the installation. That is where the reassurance should come
from.
 
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Charlie Tame

Ian said:
Everything is achieved by reassurance


So he / she repeats a procedure that apparently has already failed
twice. The implication being that you wish to reassure the user that he
/ she can't get it right?

Now, this week I was informed of a "Java" update that I downloaded and
installed, however in the listing it is named differently than other JRE
versions and so it's not clear whether the old JRE should be uninstalled
or simply left. It has been common practice to remove such leftover
runtimes since they can sometimes, if left installed, be called by
malware and the exploits the update was intended to stop can still be used.

I had not had time to research this, and I don't have access to that
machine at the moment and probably won't until Monday. It therefore
occurred to me that the OP's problem might be related, which is why I
read the reply.

So, I don't yet know the answer which is why I didn't reply to the OP,
but would it not be a good idea to find out if the old JRE should be
removed and the OP advised accordingly?
 
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Guest

Hello...thanks for your replies. I am pretty sure that I read on java.com
that you did not have to uninstall older vers of java before installing the
latest version. Anyways, I did test the installation at the same website and
it tells me that I have the latest version. Maybe I need to send them a
message re this. I was thinking maybe there is somewhere in Vista that I
could authorize these applets to work, or maybe in Windows Defender??? Thanks
for your help.
 

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