Upgrading IE

M

moonraker

Winver XP Home 5.1 2600 SP3. IE 7.0.5730.13

IE keeps hanging still (really annoying), would it be as easy to upgrade to
IE8.



Would I need to uninstall IE7 first.



Can you answer a question, I use a forum, for months I have tried (as a
test) to update my profile, as the first time I tried several months ago,
this PC hung up as soon as I clicked on the link..."update profile"....it
just freezes and I have to quit IE and open again.



Every time I visit the web site and click on the link, this PC freezes up
immediately,



Today I was testing another PC and visited the same web site.clicked on the
same link and it went straight to it.



What "actually" causes the "freeze up"



The number of times you get asked about this problem.has anyone written a
simple guide to go through everything in order one by one to bring a PC back
to perfect operating order.



Would I be better useing another program to access the internet, or do they
just bring their own problems.



Steve
 
S

Shenan Stanley

moonraker said:
Winver XP Home 5.1 2600 SP3. IE 7.0.5730.13

IE keeps hanging still (really annoying), would it be as easy to
upgrade to IE8.

Would I need to uninstall IE7 first.

Can you answer a question, I use a forum, for months I have tried
(as a test) to update my profile, as the first time I tried several
months ago, this PC hung up as soon as I clicked on the
link..."update profile"....it just freezes and I have to quit IE
and open again.
Every time I visit the web site and click on the link, this PC
freezes up immediately,

Today I was testing another PC and visited the same web
site.clicked on the same link and it went straight to it.

What "actually" causes the "freeze up"

The number of times you get asked about this problem.has anyone
written a simple guide to go through everything in order one by one
to bring a PC back to perfect operating order.

Would I be better useing another program to access the internet, or
do they just bring their own problems.

Upgrading to Internet Explorer 8 is unlikely to resolve your issues.

Here's my suggestion to cleanup and update your Windows XP system.

Don't skimp/skip anything.

You will now get the edition and version information...

Start button --> RUN
(no "RUN"? Press the "Windows Key" + R on your keyboard)
--> type in:
winver
--> Click OK.

The picture at the top of the window that opens will give you the general
(Operating System name and edition) while the line starting with the word
"version" will give you the rest of the story. Post _both_ in response
to this message verbatim. No paraphrasing - instead - ensure
character-for-character copying. Yes - you gave some of this, please
do anyway.

Now that we have some base information, let's cleanup and get ready to
install Windows XP SP3 onto your Windows XP system.

Reboot so you start with a fresh machine. For everything here you will
need to logon as an user with administrative (installation) priviledges.

Fix your file/registry permissions...

Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under
"Advanced Troubleshooting" titled,
"Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
*will take time
** Ignore the last step (6) - you said you had SP3.

You will likely see errors pass by if you watching, even count up. No
worries *at this time*.

*After* that is done, continue on to the next part where you clean off
some excess (unnecessary) files. It only removes those you definitely
do not need, if you follow the directions *as given* and do not deviate.
So reboot (for each of these steps, it is just best to reboot right
before - but I will continue to point that out) and logon as an user with
administrative priviledges.

Download/install the "Windows Installer CleanUp Utility":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button --> RUN
(no "RUN"? Press the "Windows Key" + R on your keyboard)
--> type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
--> Click OK.
(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing should be exact.)

It will flash by *quick*, don't expect much out of this step to get
excited about. But the cleaner your machine is to start with, the
better your luck will be later (not really luck - more like preparedness,
but that's not as fun to think about, eh?)

Reboot.

This time (and this is one of the more time-consuming steps) you will be
running (one at a time with reboots in-between each) three different
anti-spyware/anti-malware applications to ensure you come up clean.

Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following
(freeware version):

SuperAntiSpyware
http://www.superantispyware.com/

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following
(freeware version):

MalwareBytes
http://www.malwarebytes.com/

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download and run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

You may find nothing, you may find only cookies, you may think it is a
waste of time - but if you do all this and report back here with what you
do/don't find as you are doing all of it - you are adding more pieces to
the puzzle and the entire picture just may become clearer and your
problem resolved.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS):
( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe )
http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/...6F-60B6-4412-95B9-54D056D6F9F4&displaylang=en

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download the latest version of the Windows Update agent from here (x86):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
.... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving it to the
root of the C:\ drive, do the following:

Close all Internet Explorer windows and other applications.

Start button --> RUN and type in:
%SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE
--> Click OK.

(If asked, select "Run.) --> Click on NEXT --> Select "I agree" and click on
NEXT --> When it finishes installing, click on "Finish"...

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit this web page:

How do I reset Windows Update components?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

.... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked, select "RUN",
both times. Check the "I agree" box and click on "Next". Check the box
for "Run aggressive options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let
it finish up and follow the prompts until it is done. Close/exit and
reboot when it is.

You should now perform a full CHKDSK on your system drive (C:)...

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
* will take time and a reboot

You should now perform a full Defragment on your system drive (C:)...

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
* will take time

Uninstall any and all third-party firewall applications (ZoneAlarm, etc)
and utilize the built-in Windows Firewall only.

Reboot.

After that - there will be more updates.

Log on as an user with administrative rights and open Internet Explorer
and visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select to do a
CUSTOM scan...

Every time you are about to click on something while at these web pages -
first press and hold down the CTRL key while you click on it. You can
release the CTRL key after clicking each time.

Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high priority updates
(deselect any others) and install it.

Reboot again.

If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no more than 3-5 at a
time. Rebooting as needed.

The Optional Software updates are generally safe - although I recommend
against the "Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live" ones or
"Windows Live" ones for now. I would completely avoid the
Optional Hardware updates. Also - I do not see any urgent need to
install Internet Explorer 8 at this time.

Uninstall all versions of the following:
- Java (Java Runtime Environment/JRE)
- Adobe Acrobat (Reader/Full)
- Adobe Flash
- Adobe Shockwave
- Real Player
- Quicktime

Reboot as many times as it takes to get them uninstalled.

Install the latest version of each.

Quicktime:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

Java (JRE):
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/

Adobe Reader, Flash and Shockwave:
http://www.adobe.com/

I don't recommend RealPlayer - but Real Alternative.
http://www.free-codecs.com/real_Alternative_download.htm

Reboot after you do all that.

Also - I suggest downloading and using FireFox for most things...

Seriously - do all that. This is like antibiotics - don't skip a single
step, don't quit because you think things will be okay now - go through
until the end, until you have done everything given in the order given. If
you have a problem with a step come ask and let someone here get you
through that step. If you don't understand how to do a step, come back
and ask here about that step and let someone walk you through it.

Then - when done - let everyone here know if it worked for you - or if
you have more issues.
 
N

nass

moonraker said:
Winver XP Home 5.1 2600 SP3. IE 7.0.5730.13

IE keeps hanging still (really annoying), would it be as easy to upgrade to
IE8.



Would I need to uninstall IE7 first.



Can you answer a question, I use a forum, for months I have tried (as a
test) to update my profile, as the first time I tried several months ago,
this PC hung up as soon as I clicked on the link..."update profile"....it
just freezes and I have to quit IE and open again.



Every time I visit the web site and click on the link, this PC freezes up
immediately,



Today I was testing another PC and visited the same web site.clicked on the
same link and it went straight to it.



What "actually" causes the "freeze up"



The number of times you get asked about this problem.has anyone written a
simple guide to go through everything in order one by one to bring a PC back
to perfect operating order.



Would I be better useing another program to access the internet, or do they
just bring their own problems.



Steve


Hi Steve,
This can be caused by an add-ons, either corrupted or damaged third-party
toolbars!
Also, malware can cause this behaviour on your browser.

Unexplained computer behaviour may be caused by deceptive software
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315

Click start >> Control Panel >> Double Click Network and Internet
Connections >> Double click Internet Options, on the IE Properties window
you will see these Options:
General | Security | Privacy | Content | Connections | Programs
| Advanced .

Click on General Tab (1st Tab on the left) and you will see a Button called
[ Clear History ..] click on it to clear your History caches, then click on
[Delete Files..] to delete Internet Files created over the time, click on [
Delete Cookies...] to delete your cookies left by visiting websites.

= Then try to Disable the Add-Ons on your Browser somehow installed on your
browser, On how to disable the Add-ons follow this:
Click on Programs Tab and then click the Manage Add-Ons Button there Disable
the None/Not Verified Plug-ins/Add-ons ( you need to Renable them one-by-one
later and see which is the culprit .
How to manage Add-Ons:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883256

Then click on Advanced tab and scroll down to under the Browsing Option:
[&] Browsing
[ ] Enable Third-Party browser extensions (Req Rest) uncheck this box.
Click [OK] to close the IE properties window.

Scan for malware from here:
SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html
Malwarebytes© Corporation
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-gb/default.htm?s_cid=sah
Easy Clean
http://www.f-secure.com/en_EMEA/security/security-center/easy-clean/

After making sure the machine clean, try to download IE8 from here and
install it and check the check box to install the updates.
Internet Explorer 8: Home page
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/default.aspx
HTH
nass
 
M

moonraker

HI there Shenan that is "exactly" the reply I was looking for....thankyou.

MS Windows XP Home Edition

Version 5.1 (build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435 : service pack 3)

copyright 2007

Can I ask what "_gdr" indicates and I guess this is the
date".090804"-1435

Thankyou.........I'll be back.
 
M

moonraker

YES.......SORRY PA......I only realised my mistake once I returned to
look for a reply....and could not find my post!!!!!!

Had to track in down - via - sent items

Steve

P.S Shenan is very good though - a young lady I am guessing.
 
J

Jim

Shenan is male .



YES.......SORRY PA......I only realised my mistake once I returned to
look for a reply....and could not find my post!!!!!!

Had to track in down - via - sent items

Steve

P.S Shenan is very good though - a young lady I am guessing.
 
M

moonraker

Shenan Stanley said:
Upgrading to Internet Explorer 8 is unlikely to resolve your issues.

Here's my suggestion to cleanup and update your Windows XP system.

Don't skimp/skip anything.

You will now get the edition and version information...

Start button --> RUN
(no "RUN"? Press the "Windows Key" + R on your keyboard)
--> type in:
winver
--> Click OK.

The picture at the top of the window that opens will give you the general
(Operating System name and edition) while the line starting with the word
"version" will give you the rest of the story. Post _both_ in response
to this message verbatim. No paraphrasing - instead - ensure
character-for-character copying. Yes - you gave some of this, please
do anyway.

Now that we have some base information, let's cleanup and get ready to
install Windows XP SP3 onto your Windows XP system.

Reboot so you start with a fresh machine. For everything here you will
need to logon as an user with administrative (installation) priviledges.

Fix your file/registry permissions...

Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under
"Advanced Troubleshooting" titled,
"Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
*will take time
** Ignore the last step (6) - you said you had SP3.

You will likely see errors pass by if you watching, even count up. No
worries *at this time*.

*After* that is done, continue on to the next part where you clean off
some excess (unnecessary) files. It only removes those you definitely
do not need, if you follow the directions *as given* and do not deviate.
So reboot (for each of these steps, it is just best to reboot right
before - but I will continue to point that out) and logon as an user with
administrative priviledges.

Download/install the "Windows Installer CleanUp Utility":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button --> RUN
(no "RUN"? Press the "Windows Key" + R on your keyboard)
--> type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
--> Click OK.
(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing should be exact.)

It will flash by *quick*, don't expect much out of this step to get
excited about. But the cleaner your machine is to start with, the
better your luck will be later (not really luck - more like preparedness,
but that's not as fun to think about, eh?)

Reboot.

This time (and this is one of the more time-consuming steps) you will be
running (one at a time with reboots in-between each) three different
anti-spyware/anti-malware applications to ensure you come up clean.

Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following
(freeware version):

SuperAntiSpyware
http://www.superantispyware.com/

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following
(freeware version):

MalwareBytes
http://www.malwarebytes.com/

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download and run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

You may find nothing, you may find only cookies, you may think it is a
waste of time - but if you do all this and report back here with what you
do/don't find as you are doing all of it - you are adding more pieces to
the puzzle and the entire picture just may become clearer and your
problem resolved.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS):
( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe )
http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/...6F-60B6-4412-95B9-54D056D6F9F4&displaylang=en

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download the latest version of the Windows Update agent from here (x86):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving it to the
root of the C:\ drive, do the following:

Close all Internet Explorer windows and other applications.

Start button --> RUN and type in:
%SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE
--> Click OK.

(If asked, select "Run.) --> Click on NEXT --> Select "I agree" and click
on
NEXT --> When it finishes installing, click on "Finish"...

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit this web page:

How do I reset Windows Update components?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked, select "RUN",
both times. Check the "I agree" box and click on "Next". Check the box
for "Run aggressive options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let
it finish up and follow the prompts until it is done. Close/exit and
reboot when it is.

You should now perform a full CHKDSK on your system drive (C:)...

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
* will take time and a reboot

You should now perform a full Defragment on your system drive (C:)...

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
* will take time

Uninstall any and all third-party firewall applications (ZoneAlarm, etc)
and utilize the built-in Windows Firewall only.

Reboot.

After that - there will be more updates.

Log on as an user with administrative rights and open Internet Explorer
and visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select to do a
CUSTOM scan...

Every time you are about to click on something while at these web pages -
first press and hold down the CTRL key while you click on it. You can
release the CTRL key after clicking each time.

Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high priority updates
(deselect any others) and install it.

Reboot again.

If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no more than 3-5 at a
time. Rebooting as needed.

The Optional Software updates are generally safe - although I recommend
against the "Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live" ones or
"Windows Live" ones for now. I would completely avoid the
Optional Hardware updates. Also - I do not see any urgent need to
install Internet Explorer 8 at this time.

Uninstall all versions of the following:
- Java (Java Runtime Environment/JRE)
- Adobe Acrobat (Reader/Full)
- Adobe Flash
- Adobe Shockwave
- Real Player
- Quicktime

Reboot as many times as it takes to get them uninstalled.

Install the latest version of each.

Quicktime:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

Java (JRE):
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/

Adobe Reader, Flash and Shockwave:
http://www.adobe.com/

I don't recommend RealPlayer - but Real Alternative.
http://www.free-codecs.com/real_Alternative_download.htm

Reboot after you do all that.

Also - I suggest downloading and using FireFox for most things...

Seriously - do all that. This is like antibiotics - don't skip a single
step, don't quit because you think things will be okay now - go through
until the end, until you have done everything given in the order given.
If
you have a problem with a step come ask and let someone here get you
through that step. If you don't understand how to do a step, come back
and ask here about that step and let someone walk you through it.

Then - when done - let everyone here know if it worked for you - or if
you have more issues.

Hi Shenan and Greetings to you,

Question, whenever I am following intructions and performing tasks, it is
important to reboot and work with a fresh PC, but if for instance, I am
doing :-
Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under
"Advanced Troubleshooting" titled,
"Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
*will take time
** Ignore the last step (6) - you said you had SP3.

...........is it okay to open up IE in order to read instructions and/or copy
and paste text into "run" (i.e. Start button --> RUN)??

Question. Would you or would you not recomend using "guided help at any
stage??
 
S

Shenan Stanley

<snipped>
View the entire conversation here:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...p.general/browse_frm/thread/98c2ae485d109022/


Hi Shenan and Greetings to you,

Question, whenever I am following intructions and performing tasks, it is
important to reboot and work with a fresh PC, but if for instance, I am
doing :-


..........is it okay to open up IE in order to read instructions and/or
copy and paste text into "run" (i.e. Start button --> RUN)??

Question. Would you or would you not recomend using "guided help at any
stage??

You should print my instructions. ;-)

No guided help at this stage. Later - resetting the UPDATE stuff - you will
run a FIXIT tool.

Okay to open the browser (only way you will be able to copy/paste the text
needed for the batch script you will create, really) for the instructions.
You do not need to copy/paste into the RUN field anything if I am reading
correctly.

You need to install a downloaded application (step 1), open notepad (step
2), you copy/paste a script into NOTEPAD (step 3), save AS to your desktop
(step 4)and you will be running that script (step 5). You don't do the
Windows XP SP3 install (step 6)...
 

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