Unsafe Removal of Device (Printer)

[BillyBoy]

I keep getting this message when I power off my USB printer. I've had USB
printers before and have never had this problem. Current printer is an
Epson CX4600.

The message tells me to Show the Unplug/Eject Icon in the system tray but it
never shows up! Even so, I don't want to have to use it anyway. I just
want Windows to know it's safe! Is it safe? LOL! Dustin Hoffman
movie.....

Anway, can anyone help me here?

TIA!

 

[John John]

Windows prefers to unload devices gracefully but quite often it doesn't
make a hill of beans of difference if you use the "Eject Hardware" or
not. At other times it can have negative effects, I understand that
firewire devices don't particularly like being unplugged without using
the "Eject Hardware". If you suffer no ill effects don't worry too much
about it.

I get the same thing when I power off my HP USB printer without ejecting
it. Windows says: "Unplugging hardware without first ejecting it can
have undesirable effects. You will howl at night, all your teeth will
fall out and you will be infected by the fleas of a thousand camels."
Well guess what? I still have all my teeth, I only howl if there is a
full moon and the fleas are manageable as long as I change my collar
once a month. So no big deal...

If you really want to eject the device first try this in the run command
box: RUNDLL32 SHELL32.DLL,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll It will bring up
the eject hardware dialogue box.

John

 

[George Hester]

What if you go into the Printer applet and right-click the printer and choose "Use Printer Offline" then power it off? Same behavior?

 

[lforbes]

Windows prefers to unload devices gracefully but quite often
it doesn't
make a hill of beans of difference if you use the "Eject
Hardware" or
not. At other times it can have negative effects, I
understand that
firewire devices don't particularly like being unplugged
without using
the "Eject Hardware". If you suffer no ill effects don't
worry too much
about it.

I get the same thing when I power off my HP USB printer
without ejecting
it. Windows says: "Unplugging hardware without first
ejecting it can
have undesirable effects. You will howl at night, all your
teeth will
fall out and you will be infected by the fleas of a thousand
camels."
Well guess what? I still have all my teeth, I only howl if
there is a
full moon and the fleas are manageable as long as I change my
collar
once a month. So no big deal...

If you really want to eject the device first try this in the
run command
box: RUNDLL32 SHELL32.DLL,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll It will
bring up
the eject hardware dialogue box.

John

Hi,

I have about 100 USB printers and I have never had this problem.
However I don’t purchase Epson because the print heads die too
quickly.

I would go to the Epson website and download the newest drivers. Then
I would delete the printer and all the files and then reinstall with
the newest drivers.

Cheers,

Lara

 

[BillyBoy]

I've been using Epson for about 15 years. Experience with other mfrs was
like a horror film. These are the newest drivers.



Hi,

I have about 100 USB printers and I have never had this problem.
However I don't purchase Epson because the print heads die too
quickly.

I would go to the Epson website and download the newest drivers. Then
I would delete the printer and all the files and then reinstall with
the newest drivers.

Cheers,

Lara

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[BillyBoy]

Yes

What if you go into the Printer applet and right-click the printer and
choose "Use Printer Offline" then power it off? Same behavior?

 

[George Hester]

Try disabling detect PnP for the printer. The only way I know how to do that is to remove the drivers for the Printer done in Device Manager then Add New hardware and uncheck detect Plug and Play and reinstall the drivers manually.

 

[lforbes]

I've been using Epson for about 15 years. Experience with
other mfrs was
like a horror film. These are the newest drivers.



Hi,

I have about 100 USB printers and I have never had this
problem.
However I don't purchase Epson because the print heads die too
quickly.

I would go to the Epson website and download the newest
drivers. Then
I would delete the printer and all the files and then
reinstall with
the newest drivers.

Cheers,

Lara

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Hi,

I’ve been using Epson for about 15 years. Experience with other mfrs

was like a horror film

I am glad you have had luck with Epsons. We bought 100 and after about
6 months their heads became plugged beyond use. Epson wouldn’t honour
the warranty saying that somehow we had screwed up all 100 printers.

Unlike Lexmark and HP where the Printer heads are on the cartridge and
Canon where the print heads are separate and can be replaced, Epson
print heads are built into the printer and if they plug you throw out
the printer.

The other problem I have had with Epson is the fact that if you put an
ink cartridge in the machine you can never take it out again as it is
"punctured". Therefore if you install the printer on another
computer you have to buy new cartridges. Also "IT" decides when you
need new ink so the tank can be 1/2 full and you have to replace it or
it can be empty and you have to print blank pages for months before it
believes it is empty and lets you change it.

Personally the best printer I have found by far is the Canon. It has
separate ink tanks for each colour so you only have to replace the
empty ones. You can replace it whenever you want and the print head is
removable if it becomes plugged or damaged. We have about 300 Canon’s
now and they have been running smoothly for about 2 years with no
problems.

Cheers,

Lara

 

[BillyBoy]

Wow, that's great! I didn't intend for this thread to be about printers but
appreciate the feedback.

You've got a helluva lot of printers there so I'm sure you know. I only
have one and have always been able to unclog the printheads. I've also been
filling my own cartridges for about 8 years so I've never really had an ink
problem. My StylusScan2500 lasted 4 years. I now have a CX5400 and really
like the DuraBrite inks.

Anyway....thanks for the info.



I am glad you have had luck with Epsons. We bought 100 and after about
6 months their heads became plugged beyond use. Epson wouldn't honour
the warranty saying that somehow we had screwed up all 100 printers.

Unlike Lexmark and HP where the Printer heads are on the cartridge and
Canon where the print heads are separate and can be replaced, Epson
print heads are built into the printer and if they plug you throw out
the printer.

The other problem I have had with Epson is the fact that if you put an
ink cartridge in the machine you can never take it out again as it is
"punctured". Therefore if you install the printer on another
computer you have to buy new cartridges. Also "IT" decides when you
need new ink so the tank can be 1/2 full and you have to replace it or
it can be empty and you have to print blank pages for months before it
believes it is empty and lets you change it.

Personally the best printer I have found by far is the Canon. It has
separate ink tanks for each colour so you only have to replace the
empty ones. You can replace it whenever you want and the print head is
removable if it becomes plugged or damaged. We have about 300 Canon's
now and they have been running smoothly for about 2 years with no
problems.

Cheers,

Lara

 

[BillyBoy]

I used Add/Remove Programs to remove the printer. You could also remove it
from Control Panel but I'm not aware of a Device Manager method.

I did use the Add Printer/Hardware Wizard method through Control Panel to
load the printer drivers but got the same result. This is an Epson issue
even though Epson says it's a Microsoft issue. I've never had this happen
before on any printer. I'm aware of some code to correct this but there
must be an easier way.


Try disabling detect PnP for the printer. The only way I know how to do
that is to remove the drivers for the Printer done in Device Manager then
Add New hardware and uncheck detect Plug and Play and reinstall the drivers
manually.

 

[George Hester]

You shouldn't have to use Add\Remove to remove Printer drivers. That is one thing that is wrong. See
if you can find drivers for the printer that are a bare minimum. Those normally would be installed in
Add\Remove Hardware Wizard. I think your issue is the drivers you are using for Windows 2000.
You want the drivers that have no bells and whistles. The bare minimum.

I have a Lexmark that has two available driver packs. One is nasty. It puts startup stuff in the Registry;
interferes with my services; BillyBoy it is not nice. I get the other which is about 4 years old. They
work perfect. Get the drivers for the printer that are the oldest you can find that are compatible with
Windows 2000.

 

[dcdon]

Hi Billy Boy,

How about tellum how you unclog your print heads...?

dcdon

Wow, that's great! I didn't intend for this thread to be about printers but
appreciate the feedback.

You've got a helluva lot of printers there so I'm sure you know. I only
have one and have always been able to unclog the printheads. I've also been
filling my own cartridges for about 8 years so I've never really had an ink
problem. My StylusScan2500 lasted 4 years. I now have a CX5400 and really
like the DuraBrite inks.

Anyway....thanks for the info.



I am glad you have had luck with Epsons. We bought 100 and after about
6 months their heads became plugged beyond use. Epson wouldn't honour
the warranty saying that somehow we had screwed up all 100 printers.

Unlike Lexmark and HP where the Printer heads are on the cartridge and
Canon where the print heads are separate and can be replaced, Epson
print heads are built into the printer and if they plug you throw out
the printer.

The other problem I have had with Epson is the fact that if you put an
ink cartridge in the machine you can never take it out again as it is
"punctured". Therefore if you install the printer on another
computer you have to buy new cartridges. Also "IT" decides when you
need new ink so the tank can be 1/2 full and you have to replace it or
it can be empty and you have to print blank pages for months before it
believes it is empty and lets you change it.

Personally the best printer I have found by far is the Canon. It has
separate ink tanks for each colour so you only have to replace the
empty ones. You can replace it whenever you want and the print head is
removable if it becomes plugged or damaged. We have about 300 Canon's
now and they have been running smoothly for about 2 years with no
problems.

Cheers,

Lara

 

[BillyBoy]

This printer has a Card Reader on it which I thought might be causing the
problem. Et voila! That was it! I probably didn't have to uninstall the
Card Monitor because that did not solve the problem. What did solve it was
to disable the USB Mass Storage for the device in Device Manager.

You shouldn't have to use Add\Remove to remove Printer drivers. That is one
thing that is wrong. See
if you can find drivers for the printer that are a bare minimum. Those
normally would be installed in
Add\Remove Hardware Wizard. I think your issue is the drivers you are using
for Windows 2000.
You want the drivers that have no bells and whistles. The bare minimum.

I have a Lexmark that has two available driver packs. One is nasty. It
puts startup stuff in the Registry;
interferes with my services; BillyBoy it is not nice. I get the other which
is about 4 years old. They
work perfect. Get the drivers for the printer that are the oldest you can
find that are compatible with
Windows 2000.

 

[George Hester]

Well cool mission accomplished. I hope you can keep it disabled. Does disabling it mess up the printer performance?