Unlicensed XP - but it's not my fault!

[nicandal]

I bought a HP pavilion desktop about 2 years ago. It had XP Home
pre-installed and came with a recovery disk - no Windows disk. All was
fine until I plugged in a dodgy USB Palm Cradle I bought on eBay - I
think it fried my motherboard. I could not get it to start up, or even
beep at me.

The machine was out of warranty by now so I was left with fixing it
myself. I bought a new motherboard and put it back together - with
great success. But the recovery disk didn't work, it said it was not
for this computer. So I had some working hardware but no operating
system.

I got hold of a pirate copy of XP Pro and got up and running. I felt I
had no option. Microsoft is now asking £92 to go genuine. Do I have to
pay? I have an XP Home product key here on the side of my machine, If I
formatted and re-installed XP Home (from a friend's disk) could I use
that with it?

I really want to go genuine but I've already paid once when I bought
the computer.
Thanks

 

[Leythos]

The machine was out of warranty by now so I was left with fixing it
myself. I bought a new motherboard and put it back together - with
great success. But the recovery disk didn't work, it said it was not
for this computer. So I had some working hardware but no operating
system.

I got hold of a pirate copy of XP Pro and got up and running. I felt I
had no option. Microsoft is now asking £92 to go genuine. Do I have to
pay? I have an XP Home product key here on the side of my machine, If I
formatted and re-installed XP Home (from a friend's disk) could I use
that with it?

I really want to go genuine but I've already paid once when I bought
the computer.

This is typical and follows the licensing imposed on vendors that
provide Windows XP with their pre-built computers.

Your Windows XP was tied to the motherboard installed by the vendor,
changing the motherboard, not under warranty repair, invalidates the
licensing that were using.

You only have one option to get past this, purchase a full OEM copy or a
full retail copy, the one you have no is no longer valid for the machine
it's installed on.

 

[Mac]

x Your Windows XP was tied to the motherboard installed by the vendor,
x changing the motherboard, not under warranty repair, invalidates the
x licensing that were using.

No it doesn't...

x You only have one option to get past this, purchase a full OEM copy or a
x full retail copy, the one you have no is no longer valid for the machine
x it's installed on.

Crap advice...

Just do a phone activation... takes five minutes...

 

[nicandal]

Crap advice...

Just do a phone activation... takes five minutes...

You mean I de-activate this copy and call Microsoft to activate it, and
tell them my story?
Will that work?
al

 

[Leythos]

x Your Windows XP was tied to the motherboard installed by the vendor,
x changing the motherboard, not under warranty repair, invalidates the
x licensing that were using.

No it doesn't...

Yes, it does, clearly, according to the OEM licensing rules.

x You only have one option to get past this, purchase a full OEM copy or a
x full retail copy, the one you have no is no longer valid for the machine
x it's installed on.

Crap advice...

Just do a phone activation... takes five minutes...

Which may or may not work based on the media he used and the COA he has
available.

 

[Mac]

Nope

Yes, it does, clearly, according to the OEM licensing rules.


Which may or may not work based on the media he used and the COA he has
available.

 

[Mac]

Yes

You mean I de-activate this copy and call Microsoft to activate it, and
tell them my story?
Will that work?
al

 

[Leythos]

Yes

LOL, there is a good chance if they explain the situation that it won't
be validated. They are better off not explaining it and just saying that
they replaced a video card.

 

[Mac]

You are one mixed up ID 10 T, laybrain..

LOL, there is a good chance if they explain the situation that it won't
be validated. They are better off not explaining it and just saying that
they replaced a video card.

 

[Mac]

Post your ****ed-up ideas about "OEM licensing rules" here... or is
copy/paste beyond your current skill-set Lowbrain..?.

Go on, I triple dare you...

Mac

 

[Guest]

You invalidated the original HP OEM Windows XP Home Edition
license when you installed a non-HP motherboard. You also
admitted you installed a "pirated", illegal, counterfeit version
of Windows XP Professional. As a consequence of your actions,
yes, you'll have to pay in order to obtain a genuine Windows XP
Professional license.

 

[kurttrail]

This is typical and follows the licensing imposed on vendors that
provide Windows XP with their pre-built computers.

Your Windows XP was tied to the motherboard installed by the vendor,
changing the motherboard, not under warranty repair, invalidates the
licensing that were using.

Please QUOTE the OEM EULA and or the SBL where is says that "changing
the motherboard, not under warranty repair, invalidates the licensing
that were using."

You only have one option to get past this, purchase a full OEM copy
or a full retail copy, the one you have no is no longer valid for the
machine it's installed on.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/9/c/e9c73b60-bff1-4f03-b06f-d3cbe8f8d9f4/KeyUpdateTool.exe

This may be another option. According to Carey, "The Genuine Advantage
Product Key Update Tool is only valid for users attempting to change
their current non-genuine Product Key to a genuine COA sticker or
genuine Product Key - all without a reinstall!"

If that doesn't work, another option is for the OP to get their hands on
a generic OEM copy, do a repair install, and use the Product Key that
came with their HP, then activate by phone.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[kurttrail]

You invalidated the original HP OEM Windows XP Home Edition
license when you installed a non-HP motherboard. You also
admitted you installed a "pirated", illegal, counterfeit version
of Windows XP Professional. As a consequence of your actions,
yes, you'll have to pay in order to obtain a genuine Windows XP
Professional license.

LOL! As a consequence of your actions, installing the bogus "high
priority" Microsoft malware you'll have to find a way to bugger it!

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/...s-genuine-advantage-notifications-nag-screen/

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[Leythos]

Please QUOTE the OEM EULA and or the SBL where is says that "changing
the motherboard, not under warranty repair, invalidates the licensing
that were using."

You know, as well as anyone that's followed the arguments, that the SBL
rules changed about 4 months ago - the OP would still be under the
licensing agreement where the old SBL stated Motherboard.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/9/c/e9c73b60-bff1-4f03-b06f-d3cbe8f8d9f4/KeyUpdateTool.exe

This may be another option. According to Carey, "The Genuine Advantage
Product Key Update Tool is only valid for users attempting to change
their current non-genuine Product Key to a genuine COA sticker or
genuine Product Key - all without a reinstall!"

If that doesn't work, another option is for the OP to get their hands on
a generic OEM copy, do a repair install, and use the Product Key that
came with their HP, then activate by phone.

If it works.

 

[nicandal]

You invalidated the original HP OEM Windows XP Home Edition
license when you installed a non-HP motherboard. You also
admitted you installed a "pirated", illegal, counterfeit version
of Windows XP Professional. As a consequence of your actions,
yes, you'll have to pay in order to obtain a genuine Windows XP
Professional license.

Did you even read my full post? Do you have an ounce of sympathy for my
situation?

Also I find the phrase "non-HP motherboard" strange, since I installed
another MSI board very similar to the one I took out. HP don't make
motherboards AFAIK.

Yes, I installed a pirate copy as a stopgap, while I argued with HP.
Your use of the scare quotes and two other scary words are clearly an
attempt to frighten me into paying twice for your operating system. Do
you have no shame?

 

[Jone Doe]

Did you even read my full post? Do you have an ounce of sympathy for my
situation?

Also I find the phrase "non-HP motherboard" strange, since I installed
another MSI board very similar to the one I took out. HP don't make
motherboards AFAIK.

Yes, I installed a pirate copy as a stopgap, while I argued with HP.
Your use of the scare quotes and two other scary words are clearly an
attempt to frighten me into paying twice for your operating system. Do
you have no shame?

Wrong question. It's "Do you have no sense?" directed to you, not Carey.
"Similar", as you found out, doesn't cut it.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

If you are not using a H-P motherboard, activation will fail
since it is checking for a H-P BIOS. This method of protection
is known as "System Locked Pre-installation," or SLP.

SLP uses information stored in an OEM PC's BIOS to protect
the installation from casual piracy. When installing a H-P OEM
version of Windows XP, the H-P CD compares the PC's BIOS to the
SLP information. If it matches, Product Activation will succeed.
If it does not match, Product Activation will fail.

Since you have a H-P OEM version of Windows XP
installed, and you installed a non-H-P motherboard,
your H-P OEM license is no longer valid. All you
can do is purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The shame is on you for installing a
pirated, illegal, counterfeit version
of Windows XP Professional.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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|
| Carey wrote:
|
| > You invalidated the original HP OEM Windows XP Home Edition
| > license when you installed a non-HP motherboard. You also
| > admitted you installed a "pirated", illegal, counterfeit version
| > of Windows XP Professional. As a consequence of your actions,
| > yes, you'll have to pay in order to obtain a genuine Windows XP
| > Professional license.
| >
| > --
| > Carey Frisch
| > Microsoft MVP
| > Windows XP - Shell/User
|
| Did you even read my full post? Do you have an ounce of sympathy for my
| situation?
|
| Also I find the phrase "non-HP motherboard" strange, since I installed
| another MSI board very similar to the one I took out. HP don't make
| motherboards AFAIK.
|
| Yes, I installed a pirate copy as a stopgap, while I argued with HP.
| Your use of the scare quotes and two other scary words are clearly an
| attempt to frighten me into paying twice for your operating system. Do
| you have no shame?
|

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

You are correct in that HP does not make motherboards.
But HP like other OEMs does contract to manufacturers with HP
specifications.
Generally those specifications particularly in the BIOS make the difference.
A similar motherboard from the same motherboard manufacturer is not close
enough if it is not a motherboard built for HP.
It is normal for the recovery CDs of a particular company not to install
with a motherboard not from the OEM.
While your replacement motherboard may be similar, it is not similar enough.

 

[Guest]

The HP OEM Home Edition license died the same moment your
motherboard died if you did not replace the motherboard with
an identical HP manufacturered motherboard having the same
HP BIOS.

You have two options. You can go out and purchase a conventional
"Full Version" of Windows XP Home Edition and perform a "clean install".

or

You can take advantage of the Microsoft offer to purchase a genuine
version of Windows XP Professional and change the Product Key of
your existing non-genuine version of Windows XP Professional.

Changing the Product Key will take about three minutes.

A "clean install" will take about an hour. Your choice.

The Genuine Advantage Product Key Update Tool is only valid for
users attempting to change their current non-genuine Product Key
to a genuine COA sticker or genuine Product Key - all without a reinstall!
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=50346&clcid=0x409

 

[NoStop]

I bought a HP pavilion desktop about 2 years ago. It had XP Home
pre-installed and came with a recovery disk - no Windows disk. All was
fine until I plugged in a dodgy USB Palm Cradle I bought on eBay - I
think it fried my motherboard. I could not get it to start up, or even
beep at me.

The machine was out of warranty by now so I was left with fixing it
myself. I bought a new motherboard and put it back together - with
great success. But the recovery disk didn't work, it said it was not
for this computer. So I had some working hardware but no operating
system.

I got hold of a pirate copy of XP Pro and got up and running. I felt I
had no option. Microsoft is now asking £92 to go genuine. Do I have to
pay? I have an XP Home product key here on the side of my machine, If I
formatted and re-installed XP Home (from a friend's disk) could I use
that with it?

I really want to go genuine but I've already paid once when I bought
the computer.
Thanks

So go genuine. Download a free distro of GNU/Linux and start to enjoy your
computer again. Whatever you do, don't get sucked into sending MickeyMouse
more money. They are already rolling in it through such unscrupulous
licensing practises as you're now experiencing.


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