Unlicensed XP - but it's not my fault!

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No. You would need to do a clean install.

Why are you looking to buy another copy? Is your present install not
working?
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Well, I want all the features of Windows Update back.
It used to get me driver updates and stuff.
I know there are other ways but still, I'd prefer to go legit.

Don't worry, I've found a way ;)
 
nicandal said:
Well, I want all the features of Windows Update back.
It used to get me driver updates and stuff.
I know there are other ways but still, I'd prefer to go legit.

Don't worry, I've found a way ;)
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You are begging for problems using Windows Update for drivers. You
should only get driver updates from your PC Manufacturer, or the
computer component manufacturer.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
You are begging for problems using Windows Update for drivers. You
should only get driver updates from your PC Manufacturer, or the
computer component manufacturer.
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I hate to agree with Kurt on most things, but I completely agree on this
one. Most times when Windows Update has a video card or network card or
RAID controller update it's going to not boot properly next time.
 
While that is true for XP, don't let that mindset get ingrained.

Vista relies heavily on getting drivers which aren't included inbox from the
update site. It is working well so far during the beta.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
 
While that is true for XP, don't let that mindset get ingrained.

Vista relies heavily on getting drivers which aren't included inbox from the
update site. It is working well so far during the beta.
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By the time I install Vista on anything except test boxes, vendors will
have drivers that fully support their products better than the ones MS
will provide in Updates.

I never install a OS until its been on the street (retail) for at least
6 months.
 
The drivers provided by Microsoft/Windows Update are from the hardware
manufacturers.
The drivers are included with Windows/Microsoft Update only after being
certified by Microsoft at the manufacturers expense.
 
Hello Jupiter
Are you referring to the update method found in My Comp/System
Props/Hardware/Device Manager/right click on choice
device/Props/Driver/Update driver?
I only ask because I thought that this method was not advised as good
practice.
I have used this method in the past(didn't know any better) but only for
small stuff like a webcam, mic etc.
I tend to try and get the exact update from the manufact's site. Most times
I go to a site, I have not got a clue which/what to download - not easy for
me to identify the one needed - there are more often than not, more than one
to choose from.
The ones that scare me talk about flashing the bios - they generally are
accompanied with a warning or techspeak.
I will start a new post on the subject - newusers group.
Rgds
Antioch

Jupiter Jones said:
The drivers provided by Microsoft/Windows Update are from the hardware
manufacturers.
The drivers are included with Windows/Microsoft Update only after being
certified by Microsoft at the manufacturers expense.
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The drivers provided by Microsoft/Windows Update are from the hardware
manufacturers.
The drivers are included with Windows/Microsoft Update only after being
certified by Microsoft at the manufacturers expense.
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That doesn't explain why they screw the pooch most times you install
them. There has to be something else involved that is either a MS
requirement or something about the Certification that forces vendors to
do something that screws it.
 
Larry said:
While that is true for XP, don't let that mindset get ingrained.

Vista relies heavily on getting drivers which aren't included inbox
from the update site. It is working well so far during the beta.
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From what I've read from lurking vista.gen, Beta2 has actually taken a
step backward in driver detection.

And of course, I don't even trust Windows/Microsoft/Automatic Update to
aply patches to Windows anymore. I have learned not to use unnecessary
code to do any updating of my Windows install. I've been burned too
many times, with bad patches, update problems, and bad update mojo, to
ever trust MS's web-based update technologies.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
They screw the pooch in most cases because of misdetection. Driver update in
XP will install the wrong hardware driver.

The detection and setup method is much better in Vista.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
 
Hi Kurt,

A lot of hardware that was working after initial setup in previous builds
because the drivers were included in setup now require the user to run the
set up devices wizard from the welcome center. The wizard does a fairly good
job with detection.

Some drivers that were working on older builds have been removed because of
stability issues so you will naturally see complaints about "It worked
before, why not now?" That was my initial reaction to missing drivers on my
own machines.

I hear you on being burned by updates. Been there, done that, forget the
T-shirt--I have the scars. Trust will be slow to return if ever, but I have
found that with Vista the driver update mechanism will get the pc functional
so I can take my time going searching for updated drivers from the hardware
manufacturer.


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
 
No, that has nothing to do With Windows Update.
That determines how the computer will look for drivers when new hardware is
attached to the computer.

For Windows Update, get drivers directly from the hardware manufacturer and
not Windows Update.

Generally you should not flash the BIOS unless you are reasonably sure there
is something to be gained.
BIOS flashes rarely go wrong, but when they do, they can turn a motherboard
into a paperweight.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
 
Leythos;
I doubt it is most of the time, but it is too often.
The few times I have tried Driver Updates, I have not had problems.
As for what causes the problems, I don't know.
But no one forces the manufacturers to submit the drivers.
Since the manufacturers pay for certification, the manufacturers must
believe there is some benefit.
 
Leythos;
I doubt it is most of the time, but it is too often.
The few times I have tried Driver Updates, I have not had problems.
As for what causes the problems, I don't know.
But no one forces the manufacturers to submit the drivers.
Since the manufacturers pay for certification, the manufacturers must
believe there is some benefit.
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I understand what you're saying, but every video driver and every NIC
and ever SCSI driver "update" I've done has caused problems, and that's
been on at least 30 machines and 4 servers that we done the WU method on
in the last year.
 
You are begging for problems using Windows Update for drivers. You
should only get driver updates from your PC Manufacturer, or the
computer component manufacturer.
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Anyway, I WANT to be genuine! I DO I DO I DO!
I just don't believe in paying twice.
Best
al
 
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