Total Recorder & IE 6.0 problem

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fan

I use a Win98 system with Netscape 7.0 as my main browser, although IE
6.0 is installed (the latest version - IE Version 6.0.2800.1106).

I recently purchased the Professional Edition of Total Recorder
(http://www.highcriteria.com/) in order to use its scheduling feature.
At a specified time, TR will open a web site and begin audio
recording. To schedule such a recording, TR contains a "mini-browser"
so that one can select the URL. TR's mini-browser requires IE to be
installed, and works with IE "behind-the-scenes".

However, my problem is that the mini-browser in my Total Recorder
doesn't work correctly, although my IE 6.0 works fine. Total
Recorder's technical staff can't replicate my problem and has only
this suggestion:

"the Total Recorder mini-browser uses internal modules of Internet
Explorer in a standard way. Therefore functioning of the TR
mini-browser depends of the configuration of Internet Explorer. You
need to check settings of Internet Explorer that may affect usage of
the files cache (Temporary Internet files)."

To briefly describe the symptoms, TR's mini-browser will not access a
web page unless IE is first booted and also accessing that web page,
and then TR's mini-browser will not always access the page. TR's
mini-browser seems to sort of "follow" IE's lead, although TR's
mini-browser will not access many web sites even after IE has accessed
them.

To describe the symptoms in detail (& I apologize for being
long-winded), here are the details:

In TR, under "Schedule Item" when I check the box for "Connect to
website and Play Internet transmission" and then click on "Tune",
Total Recorder's mini-browser always displays the web page that has
been designated as home page for both my browsers, Netscape 7.0 and IE
6.0. At this point, only Netscape, my main browser, is open.

It is important to note that at this point the "home" web page being
shown by TR's mini-browser is not the most current form of that home
page, so perhaps TR's mini-browser is finding it in cache. My home
page in both browsers is set to the Drudge Report
(http://drudgereport.com/). That Drudge site is updated often, and the
most current version is shown in my Netscape browser window, but *not*
in TR's mini-browser window. In the mini-browser window, it is showing
an older version of the Drudge Report. No matter how many times I
attempt to access it in the mini-browser, it just doesn't change and
show the most recent Drudge Report page that Netscape shows.

Now, the odd part is that if I then boot IE 6.0, which of course
displays its home page - also the Drudge Report - and *then* I try
reaccessing it using TR's mini-browser, the most recent version *does*
appear in the mini-browser!

Further experimentation shows that TR's mini-browser will not access
any web site until that site has first been accessed through IE. TR's
mini-browser will sometimes access web sites *after* they have first
been accessed by IE, although TR's mini-browser will *not* access all
sites that IE accesses. There are still many sites where TR's
mini-browser gives the "cannot find server" message, even after IE has
accessed them fine.

***To sum up, TR's mini-browser will not access a web page unless IE
is first booted and also accessing that web page. TR's mini-browser
seems to sort of "follow" IE's lead, although TR's mini-browser will
not access many web sites even after IE has accessed them.***

And note that TR's mini-browser does not "follow" the Netscape browser
at all; TR's mini-browser simply seems not to be influenced by
Netscape at all, even though Netscape is my designated main browser,
not IE, and all my computer seems to know it except TR's mini-browser,
which seems to require IE to be running and accessing a web site
before the mini-browser will even consider accessing that site.

And for those who think this might be a firewall problem, I do use
Norton Firewall. However, when a program tries to contact the
internet, norton firewall (NF) always asks my permission, and whether
to give it permission once or always. However, NF never mentions that
any program is trying to access the internet when Total Recorder's
mini-browser is trying to do so. Also, I completely disabled NF, and
then tried TR's mini-browser, but with the same result - a "cannot
find server" error message from TR. If the problem is with my
firewall, I don't understand why the problem would persist even when
the firewall is disabled.

So, can someone please help me solve my Total Recorder mini-browser
problem?

Thanks in advance.

-fan
 
K

Kadaitcha Man

fan, <[email protected]>, the no-chinned, shameful gargoyle, and buyer of old
clothes, exhaled:


[snip a full 6kb of waffle]
only Netscape, my main browser, is open.

Does that mean Netscape is your default browser? If it does, try setting IE
back to being the default browser.
 
R

Robert Aldwinckle

(posted to ie6.browser on msnews. I do not have access to USENET
but am leaving the cross-posting as is in case my reply somehow propagates)

fan said:
I use a Win98 system with Netscape 7.0 as my main browser, although IE
6.0 is installed (the latest version - IE Version 6.0.2800.1106).

I recently purchased the Professional Edition of Total Recorder
(http://www.highcriteria.com/) in order to use its scheduling feature. ....
To briefly describe the symptoms, TR's mini-browser will not access a
web page unless IE is first booted and also accessing that web page,
and then TR's mini-browser will not always access the page.

Sounds like it could be a User-Agent issue.
E.g. sites don't recognize your TR User-Agent
so don't know what to send it. (Or worse do recognize it
and refuse to send it anything.)

Requests which check on cached pages wouldn't be as problematic.

Are the sites which never respond to TR cached?
My guess would be that they aren't.

To get better clues about what is happening you could try getting
a packet trace and analysing it. However, I am not aware of what
tools there are available for your OS for doing that.

Try this for a start:

http://www.google.com/search?q=win9x+site:ethereal.com


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
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Hi Robert Aldwinckle, You told me:
(posted to ie6.browser on msnews. I do not have access to USENET
but am leaving the cross-posting as is in case my reply somehow
propagates)


Sounds like it could be a User-Agent issue.
E.g. sites don't recognize your TR User-Agent
so don't know what to send it. (Or worse do recognize it
and refuse to send it anything.)

"Sounds like it could be a User-Agent issue"? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You're a
****wit, more like it.
 

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