TIF folders problems

[JAX]

Hey Burt,

I also live in the middle of "Nowhere". It is the High Sonora Desert, USA.

JAX

JAX,
I hope that was pointed at both of us.... <bg>
If you ever get up this way, I will take you for
a glacier flight... Once in a lifetime deal... That
goes for the replies to this thread.. I live in a
wonderland of beauty out in the middle of almost
nowhere..
B

Ain't ever met, I think, you one kool Dude.

JAX

Burt
You betcha!

Wes

In
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\UserData\index.dat

I do not remember where I acquired the following
info, so I can't attribute it to the author(s).
{Sorry to whomever.}
Many sources over a period of time.
============================
[The most important files to be paying attention to are your "index.dat"
files. These are database files that reference your history, cache and
cookies. The first thing you should know is that the index.dat files

is

that
they don't exist in less you know they do. They second thing you

should

know
about them is that some will *not* get cleared after deleting your history
and cache.]
------------------------
The Default Structure of the Primary I.E. Folders
Cache Folder:

<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5 [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\index.dat
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1..\..cache files..
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8..\..cache files..

Cookie Folder:

<base>\cookies [dir]
<base>\cookies\index.dat
<base>\cookies\..cookie files..

History Folder:

<base>\history\history.ie5 [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\index.dat
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01..\index.dat
- - - - - - - -
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n..\index.dat

Notes -
[dir] indicates that the line represents a folder (or directory) name.

The folder levels 'content.ie5' and 'history.ie5' were introduced

with
IE-5.

They are not used in IE-4.

The Index.dat file within the Cache folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual cache files which are
spread among the four to eight cache sub-folders. These sub-folders are
named with randomly-generated 8-character names.

The Index.dat file within the Cookie folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual Cookie files which are
stored within this same folder.

The Index.dat file within the upper level of the History folder is

used

to
store 'Visited URL' names, date and time stamps. This is the data

used
by

I.E. for its AutoComplete function and controlling the highlighting of
imbedded links on the displayed Web pages.

There is one 'mshist...' file for each day of history that you have
instructed I.E. to retain. The daily history is stored in the subordinate
Index.dat files.

For the above, <base> illustrates the base portion of the path to the
folder. This varies widely between the various combinations of Operating
Systems and I.E. versions.

For the simplest systems without user profiles, it could be: "C:\WINDOWS"

For a Win-9x system with profiles, it could be:
"C:\WINDOWS\PROFILES\login-name"

For a Win-2000 [and NT/XP] system, it could be: "C:\DOCUMENTS AND
SETTINGS\login-name\LOCAL SETTINGS"
===========================================
Any more questions? I've got lots of info.
I could not delete a couple of Index.dat files for a long time.
So I studied TIF/Index.dat off and on for quite a while.

I should take the time to put all my TIF/Index.dat notes
together in a readable form. Right now they are the *equivalent*
of a shoebox full of napkins, torn scraps of paper and
matchbooks written on with crayon. ;o)
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Burt <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
I did the %TEMP% that you asked and it shows 1 TIF folder with a
subfolder
of IE5 and if you expand that there is nothing in the IE5 folder

but
the

index.dat file 0 bytes.
There are some other FILES in that search but that is it.
Burt

Burt;
"..why are there TIF folders in all these different places?"

Why is there air?

I don't know why. But I have these:

C:\Documents and Settings\WESLEY P. VOGEL\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
==========
Start | Run | Type: %TEMP% | OK

Click Folders to show the tree in the left hand pane.
Look around for some of the 8.3 named TIFs.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Burt <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
David,
No, I haven't been dragging and dropping folders. This machine
is new out of the box about a week ago and runs great, but I was
looking around in Explore and here are all these Temporary Internet
File folders everywhere as you see in above posts... I have

never
seen

it before like this on any computer. What I mean by the

Content
IE5

under them main location is that some of the TIF folders have Content
IE5 when expanded and with subfolders and others do not have it
and why is there TIF folders in some of the TEMP folders that are
also quite a few places?
I have used your knowledge before over the years on posts that
were made by others and hope maybe you have some insight to
this one.. FYI, I am not exactly a new user.
Thanx for any help on this issue.
Burt


What does this gobbly gook mean

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings
Content IE5 no and no subfolders.

If you've been dragging and dropping folders anything could have happened.


--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.g2mil.com/Dec2003.htm

I'll start here: I right clicked a picture in IE6 that I wanted
to save and only selection was bmp and I know it was a jpg so
I went and dumped the TIF files along with cookies as normal and
all offline content...
Under the SETTINGS button I looked and this is what I saw.
Then I noticed that the amount of space alloted
to TIF's was set at 0, so I tried the slider and it slides but won't
do anything, so I manually changed the number from zero to several
different numbers and hit apply and get an error window that says
"You have to select a number between 1 and 10 MB's." Well it doesn't
work. Then I noticed just above that, that it doesn't tell you
the pathway to the TIF files.
On my 98 machine, it says that
the Current Location is: C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files.

Nowthen, why are there TIF folders in all these different places?
and why no pathway to the one that should take care of Internet
Explorer? Should I hit the MOVE FOLDER button and send it
somewhere? But WHERE? With all these other folders I am a
bit confused as to where TIFs should go..
Below is a list of WHERE all these folders are residing.
* * * *
Temporary Internet Files FOLDERS found in:

C:\Windows\Temp Content IE5 NO

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, but no subfolders.

C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, but no subfolders

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings
Content IE5 no and no subfolders.

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\My Documents
Content IE5 no and no subfolders

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings\Temp
Content IE5 yes, no subfolders

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\systemprofile\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, 4 subfolders with 3 to 5 or more files in each.

Why?
Sorry for the long post, but couldn't explain it in much less wording.
Thanx for any help as usual.
--
Burt
The Old Alaskan
MVP's listed on TECKPAGE
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog/teckpage.htm

 

[Kelly]

Cajun country is fun, too!

Hey Burt,

I also live in the middle of "Nowhere". It is the High Sonora Desert, USA.

JAX

JAX,
I hope that was pointed at both of us.... <bg>
If you ever get up this way, I will take you for
a glacier flight... Once in a lifetime deal... That
goes for the replies to this thread.. I live in a
wonderland of beauty out in the middle of almost
nowhere..
B

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\UserData\index.dat

I do not remember where I acquired the following
info, so I can't attribute it to the author(s).
{Sorry to whomever.}
Many sources over a period of time.
============================
[The most important files to be paying attention to are your "index.dat"
files. These are database files that reference your history, cache and
cookies. The first thing you should know is that the index.dat

files
is

that
they don't exist in less you know they do. They second thing you should
know
about them is that some will *not* get cleared after deleting your
history
and cache.]
------------------------
The Default Structure of the Primary I.E. Folders
Cache Folder:

<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5 [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\index.dat
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1..\..cache files..
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8..\..cache files..

Cookie Folder:

<base>\cookies [dir]
<base>\cookies\index.dat
<base>\cookies\..cookie files..

History Folder:

<base>\history\history.ie5 [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\index.dat
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01..\index.dat
- - - - - - - -
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n..\index.dat

Notes -
[dir] indicates that the line represents a folder (or directory) name.

The folder levels 'content.ie5' and 'history.ie5' were introduced with
IE-5.
They are not used in IE-4.

The Index.dat file within the Cache folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual cache files which are
spread among the four to eight cache sub-folders. These

sub-folders
are

named with randomly-generated 8-character names.

The Index.dat file within the Cookie folder is used to contain URL
names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual Cookie files

which
are

stored within this same folder.

The Index.dat file within the upper level of the History folder is used
to
store 'Visited URL' names, date and time stamps. This is the data used
by
I.E. for its AutoComplete function and controlling the

highlighting

of

imbedded links on the displayed Web pages.

There is one 'mshist...' file for each day of history that you have
instructed I.E. to retain. The daily history is stored in the
subordinate
Index.dat files.

For the above, <base> illustrates the base portion of the path to the
folder. This varies widely between the various combinations of Operating
Systems and I.E. versions.

For the simplest systems without user profiles, it could be:
"C:\WINDOWS"

For a Win-9x system with profiles, it could be:
"C:\WINDOWS\PROFILES\login-name"

For a Win-2000 [and NT/XP] system, it could be: "C:\DOCUMENTS AND
SETTINGS\login-name\LOCAL SETTINGS"
===========================================
Any more questions? I've got lots of info.
I could not delete a couple of Index.dat files for a long time.
So I studied TIF/Index.dat off and on for quite a while.

I should take the time to put all my TIF/Index.dat notes
together in a readable form. Right now they are the *equivalent*
of a shoebox full of napkins, torn scraps of paper and
matchbooks written on with crayon. ;o)
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Burt <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
I did the %TEMP% that you asked and it shows 1 TIF folder

with

a

 

[JAX]

Kind'a bumped into that region, looked good to me.

JAX

Cajun country is fun, too!

Hey Burt,

I also live in the middle of "Nowhere". It is the High Sonora Desert, USA.

JAX

on

98
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\UserData\index.dat

I do not remember where I acquired the following
info, so I can't attribute it to the author(s).
{Sorry to whomever.}
Many sources over a period of time.
============================
[The most important files to be paying attention to are your
"index.dat"
files. These are database files that reference your history,

cache
and

cookies. The first thing you should know is that the index.dat files
is
that
they don't exist in less you know they do. They second thing you
should
know
about them is that some will *not* get cleared after deleting your
history
and cache.]
------------------------
The Default Structure of the Primary I.E. Folders
Cache Folder:

<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5 [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\index.dat
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1..\..cache
files..
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8..\..cache
files..

Cookie Folder:

<base>\cookies [dir]
<base>\cookies\index.dat
<base>\cookies\..cookie files..

History Folder:

<base>\history\history.ie5 [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\index.dat
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01..\index.dat
- - - - - - - -
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n..\index.dat

Notes -
[dir] indicates that the line represents a folder (or directory) name.

The folder levels 'content.ie5' and 'history.ie5' were

introduced
with

IE-5.
They are not used in IE-4.

The Index.dat file within the Cache folder is used to contain URL
names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual cache files

which
are

spread among the four to eight cache sub-folders. These sub-folders
are
named with randomly-generated 8-character names.

The Index.dat file within the Cookie folder is used to contain URL
names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual Cookie files which
are
stored within this same folder.

The Index.dat file within the upper level of the History folder is
used
to
store 'Visited URL' names, date and time stamps. This is the

data
used

by
I.E. for its AutoComplete function and controlling the

highlighting

of
imbedded links on the displayed Web pages.

There is one 'mshist...' file for each day of history that you have
instructed I.E. to retain. The daily history is stored in the
subordinate
Index.dat files.

For the above, <base> illustrates the base portion of the path

to
the

folder. This varies widely between the various combinations of
Operating
Systems and I.E. versions.

For the simplest systems without user profiles, it could be:
"C:\WINDOWS"

For a Win-9x system with profiles, it could be:
"C:\WINDOWS\PROFILES\login-name"

For a Win-2000 [and NT/XP] system, it could be: "C:\DOCUMENTS AND
SETTINGS\login-name\LOCAL SETTINGS"
===========================================
Any more questions? I've got lots of info.
I could not delete a couple of Index.dat files for a long time.
So I studied TIF/Index.dat off and on for quite a while.

I should take the time to put all my TIF/Index.dat notes
together in a readable form. Right now they are the *equivalent*
of a shoebox full of napkins, torn scraps of paper and
matchbooks written on with crayon. ;o)
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Burt <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
I did the %TEMP% that you asked and it shows 1 TIF folder

with

a
subfolder
of IE5 and if you expand that there is nothing in the IE5

folder
but

the
index.dat file 0 bytes.
There are some other FILES in that search but that is it.
Burt

Burt;
"..why are there TIF folders in all these different places?"

Why is there air?

I don't know why. But I have these:

C:\Documents and Settings\WESLEY P. VOGEL\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet
Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet
Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
==========
Start | Run | Type: %TEMP% | OK

Click Folders to show the tree in the left hand pane.
Look around for some of the 8.3 named TIFs.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Burt <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
David,
No, I haven't been dragging and dropping folders. This
machine
is new out of the box about a week ago and runs great, but I was
looking around in Explore and here are all these Temporary
Internet
File folders everywhere as you see in above posts... I have never
seen
it before like this on any computer. What I mean by the Content
IE5
under them main location is that some of the TIF folders have
Content
IE5 when expanded and with subfolders and others do not have it
and why is there TIF folders in some of the TEMP folders

that
are

also quite a few places?
I have used your knowledge before over the years on posts that
were made by others and hope maybe you have some insight to
this one.. FYI, I am not exactly a new user.
Thanx for any help on this issue.
Burt


What does this gobbly gook mean

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings
Content IE5 no and no subfolders.

If you've been dragging and dropping folders anything could have
happened.


--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.g2mil.com/Dec2003.htm

I'll start here: I right clicked a picture in IE6 that I wanted
to save and only selection was bmp and I know it was a jpg so
I went and dumped the TIF files along with cookies as

normal
and

all offline content...
Under the SETTINGS button I looked and this is what I saw.
Then I noticed that the amount of space alloted
to TIF's was set at 0, so I tried the slider and it slides but
won't
do anything, so I manually changed the number from zero to
several
different numbers and hit apply and get an error window that
says
"You have to select a number between 1 and 10 MB's." Well it
doesn't
work. Then I noticed just above that, that it doesn't

tell
you

the pathway to the TIF files.
On my 98 machine, it says that
the Current Location is: C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files.

Nowthen, why are there TIF folders in all these different
places?
and why no pathway to the one that should take care of Internet
Explorer? Should I hit the MOVE FOLDER button and send it
somewhere? But WHERE? With all these other folders I am a
bit confused as to where TIFs should go..
Below is a list of WHERE all these folders are residing.
* * * *
Temporary Internet Files FOLDERS found in:

C:\Windows\Temp Content IE5 NO

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, but no subfolders.

C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, but no subfolders

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings
Content IE5 no and no subfolders.

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\My Documents
Content IE5 no and no subfolders

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings\Temp
Content IE5 yes, no subfolders

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\systemprofile\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, 4 subfolders with 3 to 5 or more files in each.

Why?
Sorry for the long post, but couldn't explain it in much less
wording.
Thanx for any help as usual.
--
Burt
The Old Alaskan
MVP's listed on TECKPAGE
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog/teckpage.htm

 

[JAX]

I came across something, The only dumb question is, the one you don't ask.

FWIW, JAX

Burt;
There is no such thing as a dumb question, if you don't
know the answer. )

I had an Instructor in trade school who had a plaque that
read something like, "It's the EXCEPTIONAL student who
asks questions the Instructor can answer."

As far as XP changes go, who knows? If they made it to please
everyone, it'd be the size of my truck.

If you do a little digging, you'll find that Index.dat files are on 98
also and some are hidden there as well.

If you do Google Search for index.dat and wade through all the ads,
there's a lot of info. Keep in mind that you can't boot to DOS with
XP, but you CAN boot in Safe Mode with Command Prompt.
You can delete more than you may want to this way. )
I know this for a fact. I deleted Documents and Settings twice
before I figured out what I was doing wrong. :-(

My XP Home is full of bugs. Luckily there are sites like Kelly
Theriot's, Doug Knox's and similar that are full of fixes.

There are some bugs for various settings. For example, if you're
using Classic Start Menu, every once in a while XP forgets your
Customize Notification settings. Arghhhhhhh.............!!

WINDOWS XP SHUTDOWN & RESTART TROUBLESHOOTING
Version 12.14 - January 18, 2004
http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php

There have been plenty of people on these newsgroups that not
only have made me feel like an idiot. Some have even called me
that or worse. Good thing they haven't seen me typing the last
five minutes or so. <LOL>

Keep having fun!
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

Wesley,
Thankyou much for making me NOT feel like an idiot... I dig
quite deep into these computers and consider myself fair to good
with 98 and ME.... This XP is a little new to me.. I have only been
playing around with them a little in the past. There is so much
stuff changed and I must say that I am not really convinced some of
these changes are for the better... This new machine seems to be a
little unstable ie: It sometimes won't remember settings for various
things, I have had some shutdown problems and am trying to just
iron these bugs out one at a time... My old Dell running 98 FE is
as solid as a rock and has been ever since I bought it new in 98.
I guess I got spoiled. I do keep constant maintainance on my
computers and not let stuff go till I have problems..

Thanx again for removing the possibility that I was an idiot..
I know I am not, but... Lacking a bunch of knowledge I would sure
like to have tho.. I have always been a "WHY" and "HOW TO"
type guy...
Burt

Burt;
Contrary to what you may believe, I am not being critical.
And until I understand something, I don't care how *I* look.
)
That said.
The way I understand it,
Windows lies to us and hides things from us.
It also spies on us.
Index.dat files being a good example.

Some Index.dat files are hidden.
There are seven or eight of these bad boys on XP.
Some are hard to delete because they are a 'system' file
and in use. They can also grow to huge size.

Example of what has been on my XP machine.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\UserData\index.dat

I do not remember where I acquired the following
info, so I can't attribute it to the author(s).
{Sorry to whomever.}
Many sources over a period of time.
============================
[The most important files to be paying attention to are your "index.dat"
files. These are database files that reference your history, cache and
cookies. The first thing you should know is that the index.dat files is that
they don't exist in less you know they do. They second thing you should know
about them is that some will *not* get cleared after deleting your history
and cache.]
------------------------
The Default Structure of the Primary I.E. Folders
Cache Folder:

<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5 [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\index.dat
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1..\..cache files..
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8..\..cache files..

Cookie Folder:

<base>\cookies [dir]
<base>\cookies\index.dat
<base>\cookies\..cookie files..

History Folder:

<base>\history\history.ie5 [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\index.dat
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01..\index.dat
- - - - - - - -
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n..\index.dat

Notes -
[dir] indicates that the line represents a folder (or directory) name.

The folder levels 'content.ie5' and 'history.ie5' were introduced with IE-5.
They are not used in IE-4.

The Index.dat file within the Cache folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual cache files which are
spread among the four to eight cache sub-folders. These sub-folders are
named with randomly-generated 8-character names.

The Index.dat file within the Cookie folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual Cookie files which are
stored within this same folder.

The Index.dat file within the upper level of the History folder is used to
store 'Visited URL' names, date and time stamps. This is the data used by
I.E. for its AutoComplete function and controlling the highlighting of
imbedded links on the displayed Web pages.

There is one 'mshist...' file for each day of history that you have
instructed I.E. to retain. The daily history is stored in the subordinate
Index.dat files.

For the above, <base> illustrates the base portion of the path to the
folder. This varies widely between the various combinations of Operating
Systems and I.E. versions.

For the simplest systems without user profiles, it could be: "C:\WINDOWS"

For a Win-9x system with profiles, it could be:
"C:\WINDOWS\PROFILES\login-name"

For a Win-2000 [and NT/XP] system, it could be: "C:\DOCUMENTS AND
SETTINGS\login-name\LOCAL SETTINGS"
===========================================
Any more questions? I've got lots of info.
I could not delete a couple of Index.dat files for a long time.
So I studied TIF/Index.dat off and on for quite a while.

I should take the time to put all my TIF/Index.dat notes
together in a readable form. Right now they are the *equivalent*
of a shoebox full of napkins, torn scraps of paper and
matchbooks written on with crayon. ;o)
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

Wesley,
I did the %TEMP% that you asked and it shows 1 TIF folder with a
subfolder
of IE5 and if you expand that there is nothing in the IE5 folder but the
index.dat file 0 bytes.
There are some other FILES in that search but that is it.
Burt

Burt;
"..why are there TIF folders in all these different places?"

Why is there air?

I don't know why. But I have these:

C:\Documents and Settings\WESLEY P. VOGEL\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
==========
Start | Run | Type: %TEMP% | OK

Click Folders to show the tree in the left hand pane.
Look around for some of the 8.3 named TIFs.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

 

[David Candy]

But he's ranting about how it's supposed to work. You actually had a problem. Which sounds like it's fixed. Possible caused by a corrupt index.dat.

XP is the first that shows sub folders on not currently in use TIF. Previous versions showed your TIF no matter whose TIF files you were viewing.

Explorer is a namespace browser not a file manager. Far more powerful than a mere file manager.

However all the TIFs that are in Temp or My Docs should be deletable.

 

[pgriffet]

I do not remember where I acquired the following
info, so I can't attribute it to the author(s).
{Sorry to whomever.}

From http://www.purgeie.com

Pierre.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Pierre;
Thank you.
Yes, some of the info is most
definitely from PurgeIE. )

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Keep having fun!

Wes

In

Ain't ever met, I think, you one kool Dude.

JAX

Burt
You betcha!

Wes

In

Wesley,
Thanx so much for the encouragement... I have always been a
learner... I had to know how everything worked since I was a kid.
With the knowledge I have aquired over the 65 years, I have
helped a lot of people and most of it for free just like these
groups do..
Anyway, thanx again,
Burt

Burt;
There is no such thing as a dumb question, if you don't
know the answer. )

I had an Instructor in trade school who had a plaque that
read something like, "It's the EXCEPTIONAL student who
asks questions the Instructor can answer."

As far as XP changes go, who knows? If they made it to please
everyone, it'd be the size of my truck.

If you do a little digging, you'll find that Index.dat files are on 98
also and some are hidden there as well.

If you do Google Search for index.dat and wade through all the ads,
there's a lot of info. Keep in mind that you can't boot to DOS with
XP, but you CAN boot in Safe Mode with Command Prompt.
You can delete more than you may want to this way. )
I know this for a fact. I deleted Documents and Settings twice
before I figured out what I was doing wrong. :-(

My XP Home is full of bugs. Luckily there are sites like Kelly
Theriot's, Doug Knox's and similar that are full of fixes.

There are some bugs for various settings. For example, if you're
using Classic Start Menu, every once in a while XP forgets your
Customize Notification settings. Arghhhhhhh.............!!

WINDOWS XP SHUTDOWN & RESTART TROUBLESHOOTING
Version 12.14 - January 18, 2004
http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php

There have been plenty of people on these newsgroups that not
only have made me feel like an idiot. Some have even called me
that or worse. Good thing they haven't seen me typing the last
five minutes or so. <LOL>

Keep having fun!
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

Wesley,
Thankyou much for making me NOT feel like an idiot... I dig
quite deep into these computers and consider myself fair to good
with 98 and ME.... This XP is a little new to me.. I have only been
playing around with them a little in the past. There is so much
stuff changed and I must say that I am not really convinced some of
these changes are for the better... This new machine seems to be a
little unstable ie: It sometimes won't remember settings for various
things, I have had some shutdown problems and am trying to just
iron these bugs out one at a time... My old Dell running 98 FE is
as solid as a rock and has been ever since I bought it new in 98.
I guess I got spoiled. I do keep constant maintainance on my
computers and not let stuff go till I have problems..

Thanx again for removing the possibility that I was an idiot..
I know I am not, but... Lacking a bunch of knowledge I would sure
like to have tho.. I have always been a "WHY" and "HOW TO"
type guy...
Burt

Burt;
Contrary to what you may believe, I am not being critical.
And until I understand something, I don't care how *I* look.
)
That said.
The way I understand it,
Windows lies to us and hides things from us.
It also spies on us.
Index.dat files being a good example.

Some Index.dat files are hidden.
There are seven or eight of these bad boys on XP.
Some are hard to delete because they are a 'system' file
and in use. They can also grow to huge size.

Example of what has been on my XP machine.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\UserData\index.dat

I do not remember where I acquired the following
info, so I can't attribute it to the author(s).
{Sorry to whomever.}
Many sources over a period of time.
============================
[The most important files to be paying attention to are your "index.dat"
files. These are database files that reference your history, cache and
cookies. The first thing you should know is that the index.dat files is that
they don't exist in less you know they do. They second thing you should know
about them is that some will *not* get cleared after deleting your history
and cache.]
------------------------
The Default Structure of the Primary I.E. Folders
Cache Folder:

<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5 [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\index.dat
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1..\..cache files..
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8..\..cache files..

Cookie Folder:

<base>\cookies [dir]
<base>\cookies\index.dat
<base>\cookies\..cookie files..

History Folder:

<base>\history\history.ie5 [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\index.dat
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01..\index.dat
- - - - - - - -
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n..\index.dat

Notes -
[dir] indicates that the line represents a folder (or directory) name.

The folder levels 'content.ie5' and 'history.ie5' were introduced with IE-5.
They are not used in IE-4.

The Index.dat file within the Cache folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual cache files which are
spread among the four to eight cache sub-folders. These sub-folders are
named with randomly-generated 8-character names.

The Index.dat file within the Cookie folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual Cookie files which are
stored within this same folder.

The Index.dat file within the upper level of the History folder is used to
store 'Visited URL' names, date and time stamps. This is the data used by
I.E. for its AutoComplete function and controlling the highlighting of
imbedded links on the displayed Web pages.

There is one 'mshist...' file for each day of history that you have
instructed I.E. to retain. The daily history is stored in the subordinate
Index.dat files.

For the above, <base> illustrates the base portion of the path to the
folder. This varies widely between the various combinations of Operating
Systems and I.E. versions.

For the simplest systems without user profiles, it could be: "C:\WINDOWS"

For a Win-9x system with profiles, it could be:
"C:\WINDOWS\PROFILES\login-name"

For a Win-2000 [and NT/XP] system, it could be: "C:\DOCUMENTS AND
SETTINGS\login-name\LOCAL SETTINGS"
===========================================
Any more questions? I've got lots of info.
I could not delete a couple of Index.dat files for a long time.
So I studied TIF/Index.dat off and on for quite a while.

I should take the time to put all my TIF/Index.dat notes
together in a readable form. Right now they are the *equivalent*
of a shoebox full of napkins, torn scraps of paper and
matchbooks written on with crayon. ;o)
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Burt <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
I did the %TEMP% that you asked and it shows 1 TIF folder with a
subfolder
of IE5 and if you expand that there is nothing in the IE5 folder but the
index.dat file 0 bytes.
There are some other FILES in that search but that is it.
Burt

Burt;
"..why are there TIF folders in all these different places?"

Why is there air?

I don't know why. But I have these:

C:\Documents and Settings\WESLEY P. VOGEL\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
==========
Start | Run | Type: %TEMP% | OK

Click Folders to show the tree in the left hand pane.
Look around for some of the 8.3 named TIFs.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Burt <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
David,
No, I haven't been dragging and dropping folders. This machine
is new out of the box about a week ago and runs great, but I was
looking around in Explore and here are all these Temporary Internet
File folders everywhere as you see in above posts... I have never seen
it before like this on any computer. What I mean by the Content IE5
under them main location is that some of the TIF folders have Content
IE5 when expanded and with subfolders and others do not have it
and why is there TIF folders in some of the TEMP folders that are
also quite a few places?
I have used your knowledge before over the years on posts that
were made by others and hope maybe you have some insight to
this one.. FYI, I am not exactly a new user.
Thanx for any help on this issue.
Burt


What does this gobbly gook mean

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings
Content IE5 no and no subfolders.

If you've been dragging and dropping folders anything could have happened.


--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.g2mil.com/Dec2003.htm

I'll start here: I right clicked a picture in IE6 that I wanted
to save and only selection was bmp and I know it was a jpg so
I went and dumped the TIF files along with cookies as normal and
all offline content...
Under the SETTINGS button I looked and this is what I saw.
Then I noticed that the amount of space alloted
to TIF's was set at 0, so I tried the slider and it slides but won't
do anything, so I manually changed the number from zero to several
different numbers and hit apply and get an error window that says
"You have to select a number between 1 and 10 MB's." Well it doesn't
work. Then I noticed just above that, that it doesn't tell you
the pathway to the TIF files.
On my 98 machine, it says that
the Current Location is: C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files.

Nowthen, why are there TIF folders in all these different places?
and why no pathway to the one that should take care of Internet
Explorer? Should I hit the MOVE FOLDER button and send it
somewhere? But WHERE? With all these other folders I am a
bit confused as to where TIFs should go..
Below is a list of WHERE all these folders are residing.
* * * *
Temporary Internet Files FOLDERS found in:

C:\Windows\Temp Content IE5 NO

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, but no subfolders.

C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, but no subfolders

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings
Content IE5 no and no subfolders.

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\My Documents
Content IE5 no and no subfolders

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings\Temp
Content IE5 yes, no subfolders

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\systemprofile\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, 4 subfolders with 3 to 5 or more files in each.

Why?
Sorry for the long post, but couldn't explain it in much less wording.
Thanx for any help as usual.
--
Burt
The Old Alaskan
MVP's listed on TECKPAGE
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog/teckpage.htm

 

[Wesley Vogel]

JAX;
Thanks.
I've just added it to my quote list.

Wes

In

I came across something, The only dumb question is, the one you don't ask.

FWIW, JAX

Burt;
There is no such thing as a dumb question, if you don't
know the answer. )

I had an Instructor in trade school who had a plaque that
read something like, "It's the EXCEPTIONAL student who
asks questions the Instructor can answer."

As far as XP changes go, who knows? If they made it to please
everyone, it'd be the size of my truck.

If you do a little digging, you'll find that Index.dat files are on 98
also and some are hidden there as well.

If you do Google Search for index.dat and wade through all the ads,
there's a lot of info. Keep in mind that you can't boot to DOS with
XP, but you CAN boot in Safe Mode with Command Prompt.
You can delete more than you may want to this way. )
I know this for a fact. I deleted Documents and Settings twice
before I figured out what I was doing wrong. :-(

My XP Home is full of bugs. Luckily there are sites like Kelly
Theriot's, Doug Knox's and similar that are full of fixes.

There are some bugs for various settings. For example, if you're
using Classic Start Menu, every once in a while XP forgets your
Customize Notification settings. Arghhhhhhh.............!!

WINDOWS XP SHUTDOWN & RESTART TROUBLESHOOTING
Version 12.14 - January 18, 2004
http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php

There have been plenty of people on these newsgroups that not
only have made me feel like an idiot. Some have even called me
that or worse. Good thing they haven't seen me typing the last
five minutes or so. <LOL>

Keep having fun!
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

Wesley,
Thankyou much for making me NOT feel like an idiot... I dig
quite deep into these computers and consider myself fair to good
with 98 and ME.... This XP is a little new to me.. I have only been
playing around with them a little in the past. There is so much
stuff changed and I must say that I am not really convinced some of
these changes are for the better... This new machine seems to be a
little unstable ie: It sometimes won't remember settings for various
things, I have had some shutdown problems and am trying to just
iron these bugs out one at a time... My old Dell running 98 FE is
as solid as a rock and has been ever since I bought it new in 98.
I guess I got spoiled. I do keep constant maintainance on my
computers and not let stuff go till I have problems..

Thanx again for removing the possibility that I was an idiot..
I know I am not, but... Lacking a bunch of knowledge I would sure
like to have tho.. I have always been a "WHY" and "HOW TO"
type guy...
Burt

Burt;
Contrary to what you may believe, I am not being critical.
And until I understand something, I don't care how *I* look.
)
That said.
The way I understand it,
Windows lies to us and hides things from us.
It also spies on us.
Index.dat files being a good example.

Some Index.dat files are hidden.
There are seven or eight of these bad boys on XP.
Some are hard to delete because they are a 'system' file
and in use. They can also grow to huge size.

Example of what has been on my XP machine.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM~1\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Cookies\index.dat
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\UserData\index.dat

I do not remember where I acquired the following
info, so I can't attribute it to the author(s).
{Sorry to whomever.}
Many sources over a period of time.
============================
[The most important files to be paying attention to are your "index.dat"
files. These are database files that reference your history, cache and
cookies. The first thing you should know is that the index.dat files is that
they don't exist in less you know they do. They second thing you should know
about them is that some will *not* get cleared after deleting your history
and cache.]
------------------------
The Default Structure of the Primary I.E. Folders
Cache Folder:

<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5 [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\index.dat
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random1..\..cache files..
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8.. [dir]
<base>\temporary internet files\content.ie5\..random8..\..cache files..

Cookie Folder:

<base>\cookies [dir]
<base>\cookies\index.dat
<base>\cookies\..cookie files..

History Folder:

<base>\history\history.ie5 [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\index.dat
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist01..\index.dat
- - - - - - - -
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n.. [dir]
<base>\history\history.ie5\mshist0n..\index.dat

Notes -
[dir] indicates that the line represents a folder (or directory) name.

The folder levels 'content.ie5' and 'history.ie5' were introduced with IE-5.
They are not used in IE-4.

The Index.dat file within the Cache folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual cache files which are
spread among the four to eight cache sub-folders. These sub-folders are
named with randomly-generated 8-character names.

The Index.dat file within the Cookie folder is used to contain URL names,
date and time stamps, and pointers to the actual Cookie files which are
stored within this same folder.

The Index.dat file within the upper level of the History folder is used to
store 'Visited URL' names, date and time stamps. This is the data used by
I.E. for its AutoComplete function and controlling the highlighting of
imbedded links on the displayed Web pages.

There is one 'mshist...' file for each day of history that you have
instructed I.E. to retain. The daily history is stored in the subordinate
Index.dat files.

For the above, <base> illustrates the base portion of the path to the
folder. This varies widely between the various combinations of Operating
Systems and I.E. versions.

For the simplest systems without user profiles, it could be: "C:\WINDOWS"

For a Win-9x system with profiles, it could be:
"C:\WINDOWS\PROFILES\login-name"

For a Win-2000 [and NT/XP] system, it could be: "C:\DOCUMENTS AND
SETTINGS\login-name\LOCAL SETTINGS"
===========================================
Any more questions? I've got lots of info.
I could not delete a couple of Index.dat files for a long time.
So I studied TIF/Index.dat off and on for quite a while.

I should take the time to put all my TIF/Index.dat notes
together in a readable form. Right now they are the *equivalent*
of a shoebox full of napkins, torn scraps of paper and
matchbooks written on with crayon. ;o)
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

Wesley,
I did the %TEMP% that you asked and it shows 1 TIF folder with a
subfolder
of IE5 and if you expand that there is nothing in the IE5 folder but the
index.dat file 0 bytes.
There are some other FILES in that search but that is it.
Burt

Burt;
"..why are there TIF folders in all these different places?"

Why is there air?

I don't know why. But I have these:

C:\Documents and Settings\WESLEY P. VOGEL\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Temporary Internet Files
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
==========
Start | Run | Type: %TEMP% | OK

Click Folders to show the tree in the left hand pane.
Look around for some of the 8.3 named TIFs.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Burt <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
David,
No, I haven't been dragging and dropping folders. This machine
is new out of the box about a week ago and runs great, but I was
looking around in Explore and here are all these Temporary Internet
File folders everywhere as you see in above posts... I have never seen
it before like this on any computer. What I mean by the Content IE5
under them main location is that some of the TIF folders have Content
IE5 when expanded and with subfolders and others do not have it
and why is there TIF folders in some of the TEMP folders that are
also quite a few places?
I have used your knowledge before over the years on posts that
were made by others and hope maybe you have some insight to
this one.. FYI, I am not exactly a new user.
Thanx for any help on this issue.
Burt


What does this gobbly gook mean

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings
Content IE5 no and no subfolders.

If you've been dragging and dropping folders anything could have happened.


--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.g2mil.com/Dec2003.htm

I'll start here: I right clicked a picture in IE6 that I wanted
to save and only selection was bmp and I know it was a jpg so
I went and dumped the TIF files along with cookies as normal and
all offline content...
Under the SETTINGS button I looked and this is what I saw.
Then I noticed that the amount of space alloted
to TIF's was set at 0, so I tried the slider and it slides but won't
do anything, so I manually changed the number from zero to several
different numbers and hit apply and get an error window that says
"You have to select a number between 1 and 10 MB's." Well it doesn't
work. Then I noticed just above that, that it doesn't tell you
the pathway to the TIF files.
On my 98 machine, it says that
the Current Location is: C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files.

Nowthen, why are there TIF folders in all these different places?
and why no pathway to the one that should take care of Internet
Explorer? Should I hit the MOVE FOLDER button and send it
somewhere? But WHERE? With all these other folders I am a
bit confused as to where TIFs should go..
Below is a list of WHERE all these folders are residing.
* * * *
Temporary Internet Files FOLDERS found in:

C:\Windows\Temp Content IE5 NO

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, but no subfolders.

C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, but no subfolders

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings
Content IE5 no and no subfolders.

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\My Documents
Content IE5 no and no subfolders

C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings\Temp
Content IE5 yes, no subfolders

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\systemprofile\Local Settings
Content IE5 yes, 4 subfolders with 3 to 5 or more files in each.

Why?
Sorry for the long post, but couldn't explain it in much less wording.
Thanx for any help as usual.
--
Burt
The Old Alaskan
MVP's listed on TECKPAGE
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog/teckpage.htm

 

[Burt]

David,
Regretfully, it is NOT fixed... The TIF's will not show in
C:\Documents and Settings\Geezer\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files.

If while in IE/TOOLS/INTERNET OPTIONS/General Tab and clicking the
SETTINGS button and then click VIEW FILES button, they show and it
also displays the proper address in the address bar. As I had said in
earlier
posts, if you go to r/c START/EXPLORE, the TIF folder is at the proper
location but there is nothing in it, but from the VIEW FILE button on the
settings window, it shows the full contents.. Could this be a glitch in
EXPLORE
itself? I just don't know, but would still like to get to the bottom of it.
Thanx so much again for your help.
Burt

But he's ranting about how it's supposed to work. You actually had a
problem. Which sounds like it's fixed. Possible caused by a corrupt
index.dat.

XP is the first that shows sub folders on not currently in use TIF. Previous
versions showed your TIF no matter whose TIF files you were viewing.

Explorer is a namespace browser not a file manager. Far more powerful than a
mere file manager.

However all the TIFs that are in Temp or My Docs should be deletable.

 

[Burt]

David,
In reading your last post to me, your bottom sentence states that I
should be able to delete the TIF folder and contents that are in the
TEMP folder directly above the NORMAL TIF folder... I open the
TEMP folder and attempt to delete the TIF folder and/or it's contents
and Windows won't let me... It says it is "in use".
Thanx,
Burt

But he's ranting about how it's supposed to work. You actually had a
problem. Which sounds like it's fixed. Possible caused by a corrupt
index.dat.

XP is the first that shows sub folders on not currently in use TIF. Previous
versions showed your TIF no matter whose TIF files you were viewing.

Explorer is a namespace browser not a file manager. Far more powerful than a
mere file manager.

However all the TIFs that are in Temp or My Docs should be deletable.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Burt;
Make sure IE is closed.

Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr.exe | OK
Highlight: Temporary Internet Files |
View Files button | Note the Address |
Highlight the random named folders |
Ctrl + Delete | Yes | Yes to all
You will be deleting the Desktop.ini for each folder.
Doesn't matter, these babies multiply like rabbits.
Close Disk Cleanup.

Right click the Desktop IE icon | Properties | Settings button |
View Files button | Ctrl + A | Ctrl + Delete | YES | OK
Delete Cookies button | Yes | Delete Files button | Delete all offline
content |
Yes | Clear History button | Yes

 

[Burt]

David,
I was just reading another post and found another person that is
having the exact same problem I am having. I will paste his post so
you can see it. Hooray, I am not alone with this problem... Please
check out my other replies since last night... I also will add that if
I go thru Control Panel/Internet Options/ and look under that Settings
button and hit view files, it is also empty... The only time you can see
those
files is if you have IE open and do the Tools/Internet Options and hit the
settings button and then the view button... Is there a MASTER folder
that actually holds this info and those buttons are merely shortcuts to
the actual master folder or how does this work? I really want to get
to the bottom of this if we can... I trust your judgement fully on this..
Burt
**********
Mikes post re:
Under the Temporary Internet Files sub-folder, which I
cannot delete because it is a system requirement, there
are apparently a sizable number of files placed there by
the Internet. Specifically, they're in a sub-folder within
Temporary Internet Files called Content.IE5. They show up
during a virus scan but are not shown in Explorer, hence I
cannot delete them. I would like to locate and delete
them, and would appreciate any suggestions offered. Thank
you.

Mike
***********
But he's ranting about how it's supposed to work. You actually had a
problem. Which sounds like it's fixed. Possible caused by a corrupt
index.dat.

XP is the first that shows sub folders on not currently in use TIF. Previous
versions showed your TIF no matter whose TIF files you were viewing.

Explorer is a namespace browser not a file manager. Far more powerful than a
mere file manager.

However all the TIFs that are in Temp or My Docs should be deletable.

 

[Burt]

Wesley,
I have heard of a couple horror stories about "cleanmgr"... Until
this other problem is resolved, I don't want to mess with it.. I don't
know if you saw my most recent reply to David Candy, but there is
another poster with EXACTLY the same symptoms I am having..
We cannot view those TIF files anywhere but IE/Tools/Internet
Options/General tab/Settings button/View folders button... They
show up there and that is the only place it seems that they can be
accessed and I know this isn't right... There is something wrong
somewhere and I sure hope David or somebody else can figure it
out... I have great regard for Davids wisdom on computers..
Burt

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Burt;
Well, as Doris sang, "Que Sera, Sera."
Or something like that.
8-o

 

[Burt]

Wesley,
From the looks of things on this thread, maybe we will win the longest
thread of the year award.... But I still want to fix this problem...
Burt

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Burt;
Dare to dream.

I don't know what I'll wear to
the awards ceremony. )

 

[David Candy]

Try safe mode

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Burt;
Check these out.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

Cannot View Temporary Internet Files on Shared Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;175885

How to Delete the Contents of the Temporary Internet Files Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;260897

Temporary Internet Files Use More Disk Space Than Specified
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301057

You Cannot Change the Temporary Internet File Folder or the Cache Size
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301897

Internet Explorer Does not Delete Temporary Internet Files on Close
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;814782

How Internet Explorer Cache Settings Affect Web Browsing
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=263070

How to Delete Cookie Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q278835

Cannot Open a Web Page in Internet Explorer and "Page Cannot Be Displayed"
Error Is Displayed
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293402

Unable to Refresh Web Page That Uses Cookies if Set to Prompt for Cookies
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306027

Description of Cookies
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q260971

Description of Persistent and Per-Session Cookies in Internet Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[ln];223799

Cookies Lost After Upgrading to Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;282850

MS02-023: Patch Available for Script in Cookies Reading Cookies
Vulnerability
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;322926

Cookies Are Lost When You Use FILE:// URL Method in Window.Open
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315713

The Internet Explorer Index.dat File in the History Folder May Become Very
Large
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;322916

 

[Burt]

David,
Thanks, I will try the Safe Mode and see what happens.
Just wanted you to know that I am still working on this problem.
Burt

Try safe mode