The "XP" in Windows XP stands for "eXPerience." 73% market shareVista has only about 6% The O/S to

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Michael Yardley

An operating system introduced in 2001 from Microsoft's Windows family
of operating systems, the previous version of Windows being Windows
Me. Microsoft called the release its most important product since
Windows 95. Along with a redesigned look and feel to the user
interface, the new operating system is built on the Windows 2000
kernel, giving the user a more stable and reliable environment than
previous versions of Windows. Windows XP comes in two versions, Home
and Professional. The company has focused on mobility for both
editions, including plug and play features for connecting to wireless
networks. The operating system also utilizes the 802.11x wireless
security standard.
The "XP" in Windows XP stands for "eXPerience."
 
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Tom [Pepper] Willett

...I can't wait for Windows XP to be released!!!

:I appreciate your urge to keep us informed, you can stop anytime!
:
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

What is the point of your post? It's mostly wrong anyway!

Michael Yardley said:
An operating system introduced in 2001 from Microsoft's Windows family
of operating systems, the previous version of Windows being Windows ME.

*** Microsoft introduced no new operating system in 2001.
Microsoft called the release its most important product since
Windows 95.

*** Windows ME was a minor upgrade of Windows 98, the
*** last in the row of Windows 9x operating system.
Along with a redesigned look and feel to the user
interface, the new operating system is built on the Windows 2000
kernel.

*** No, it is built on Windows 98, a 16-bit platform.
*** Windows 2000, on the other hand, is built on Windows NT,
*** a 32-bit platform.
giving the user a more stable and reliable environment than
previous versions of Windows.

*** All flavours of WinNT had this reliability, as had Windows 2000.
*** Windows ME did not.
Windows XP comes in two versions, Home
and Professional. The company has focused on mobility for both
editions, including plug and play features for connecting to wireless
networks.

*** Not only for wireless network adapters but for other
*** hardware too.
 
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Shenan Stanley

Pegasus said:
What is the point of your post? It's mostly wrong anyway!

I would be curious as to the point as well...
I am not sure if all of your corrections (or some of the original
assertions) are correct, however. ;-)
The original assertions could be wrong due to it possibly being a copy from
a long past article/campaign.


Michael said:
An operating system introduced in 2001 from Microsoft's Windows
family of operating systems, the previous version of Windows being
Windows ME.
*** Microsoft introduced no new operating system in 2001.

Windows XP was first released on October 25, 2001...

Michael said:
Microsoft called the release its most important product since
Windows 95.
*** Windows ME was a minor upgrade of Windows 98, the
*** last in the row of Windows 9x operating system.

Okay - but I don't see the problem with the statement given, even with your
additions. ;-) Microsoft may well have said it was the most important
release since Windows 95. I recall being at one of the release evens - and
strangely - although Windows 95/98 and even Windows 2000 was mentioned and
showed side-by-side with Windows XP... Windows ME was hardly mentioned... In
fact - I remember more mentions of XBOX than Windows ME.


Michael said:
Along with a redesigned look and feel to the user
interface, the new operating system is built on the Windows 2000
kernel.
*** No, it is built on Windows 98, a 16-bit platform.
*** Windows 2000, on the other hand, is built on Windows NT,
*** a 32-bit platform.

Windows XP *is* built Windows NT kernel and architecture... Which is also
what Windows 2000 is built on.


Michael said:
giving the user a more stable and reliable environment than
previous versions of Windows.
*** All flavours of WinNT had this reliability, as had Windows 2000.
*** Windows ME did not.

*shrug* That is actually more of an opinion. Windows ME is an abomination
in mine.


Michael said:
Windows XP comes in two versions, Home
and Professional. The company has focused on mobility for both
editions, including plug and play features for connecting to
wireless networks.
*** Not only for wireless network adapters but for other
*** hardware too.

Windows XP comes in MANY versions (now)...
- Windows XP Home Edition
- Windows XP Professional Edition
- Windows XP Tablet PC Edition (superset of Professional)
- Windows XP Media Center Edition (superset of Professional)
- Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
- Windows XP 64-bit Edition
- Windows XP Embedded
- Windows XP Starter Edition
- Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs

As for Plug n' Pray... <vbg>
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

Windows XP was first released on October 25, 2001...

So it was!
Okay - but I don't see the problem with the statement given, even with
your additions. ;-) Microsoft may well have said it was the most
important release since Windows 95. I recall being at one of the release
evens - and strangely - although Windows 95/98 and even Windows 2000 was
mentioned and showed side-by-side with Windows XP... Windows ME was hardly
mentioned... In fact - I remember more mentions of XBOX than Windows ME.

Microsoft probably say this for every new MS. However, WinME
is commonly regarded as a minor upgrade and also as a lame duck.
I suspect that Microsoft would prefer to forget it.
Windows XP *is* built Windows NT kernel and architecture... Which is
also what Windows 2000 is built on.

Agreed, but the OP suggested that Windows ME was built on
Windows 2000, which is clearly not the case.
 
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Shenan Stanley

<snip>

Michael said:
Along with a redesigned look and feel to the user
interface, the new operating system is built on the Windows 2000
kernel.
*** No, it is built on Windows 98, a 16-bit platform.
*** Windows 2000, on the other hand, is built on Windows NT,
*** a 32-bit platform.
Windows XP *is* built Windows NT kernel and architecture... Which is also
what Windows 2000 is built on.
Agreed, but the OP suggested that Windows ME was built on
Windows 2000, which is clearly not the case.

I believe you have misread something... (Or maybe you see something I am
not.)
The entire original post is below in its original format.
An operating system introduced in 2001 from Microsoft's Windows
family of operating systems, the previous version of Windows being
Windows Me. Microsoft called the release its most important product
since Windows 95. Along with a redesigned look and feel to the user
interface, the new operating system is built on the Windows 2000
kernel, giving the user a more stable and reliable environment than
previous versions of Windows. Windows XP comes in two versions, Home
and Professional. The company has focused on mobility for both
editions, including plug and play features for connecting to
wireless networks. The operating system also utilizes the 802.11x
wireless security standard.
The "XP" in Windows XP stands for "eXPerience."

I believe, based off the subject line and following the train of thought of
the posting - the entire posting is about the subject unless otherwise
specified (Windows XP) - that if you read carefully, the part you quoted is
about Windows XP.

The first sentence:
"An operating system introduced in 2001 from Microsoft's Windows family of
operating systems, the previous version of Windows being Windows Me."
.... is all about Windows XP in relation to 'when it was introduced' and
'what was introduced right before it'... That is the only mention of
Windows ME - and that ends that sentence.

The second sentence:
"Microsoft called the release its most important product since Windows 95."
.... is all about Windows XP in relation to 'how Microsoft felt about it' and
specifically mentions 'Windows 95'.

The sentence you say refers to Windows ME (somehow):
"Along with a redesigned look and feel to the user interface, the new
operating system is built on the Windows 2000 kernel, giving the user a more
stable and reliable environment than previous versions of Windows."
.... is all about Windows XP (like all sentences before it) and describes the
OS.

The next sentence is the first in the message body that actually uses the
OSes name since the subject:
"Windows XP comes in two versions, Home and Professional."
.... and was probably correct in October 2001. ;-)

What I see this as is some blurb in a magazine page or some pamphlet handed
out way back when or something on a web page concerning itself around
Windows XP. It's 'all about' Windows XP. It's playing it up, selling it to
the people. Marketing.

I have no idea why anyone would want to post that *now*, but judging by
"Michael Yardley"'s other responses that i have come across today - I'm not
going to put much stock or concern myself over it too much more. hah
 
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John John

Pegasus said:
So it was!




Microsoft probably say this for every new MS. However, WinME
is commonly regarded as a minor upgrade and also as a lame duck.
I suspect that Microsoft would prefer to forget it.




Agreed, but the OP suggested that Windows ME was built on
Windows 2000, which is clearly not the case.

I think that the OP deliberately crafted his post to try to confuse and
muddle things. He almost completely ignores, or is almost completely
ignorant of the NT lineage and he tries to present XP as a completely
new operating system, which of course it wasn't.

John
 
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John John

Shenan said:
I have no idea why anyone would want to post that *now*, but judging by
"Michael Yardley"'s other responses that i have come across today - I'm not
going to put much stock or concern myself over it too much more.

I think he just found out that there is something other than Windows
98... Probably the first and last time he bought a pc was in 1998!

John
 
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Terry R.

The date and time was 1/10/2008 2:53 PM, and on a whim, Pegasus (MVP)
pounded out on the keyboard:
What is the point of your post? It's mostly wrong anyway!



*** Microsoft introduced no new operating system in 2001.

Sure they did.
*** Windows ME was a minor upgrade of Windows 98, the
*** last in the row of Windows 9x operating system.

What does Win Me have to do with the statement? Me was as you stated,
"a minor upgrade". Windows 95 was a complete re-write of the OS.
Regardless, MS absolutely called it the "most important product since
Windows 95"

*** No, it is built on Windows 98, a 16-bit platform.
*** Windows 2000, on the other hand, is built on Windows NT,
*** a 32-bit platform.

No, XP was built on the NT kernel, which W2k is based on. The statement
is correct. Your statement infers that XP was built on a 16 bit
platform, but maybe you mixed the two up.
*** All flavours of WinNT had this reliability, as had Windows 2000.
*** Windows ME did not.

Regardless, MS made this claim for XP. If you don't believe it, install
a new copy. During the install, comments based on that statement will
appear (if not those exact words).
*** Not only for wireless network adapters but for other
*** hardware too.

That statement was made by MS because W2k did not have the PnP
capabilities of XP, especially wireless capabilities (which was really
before they became commonplace).

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Terry R.

The date and time was 1/10/2008 4:03 PM, and on a whim, Pegasus (MVP)
pounded out on the keyboard:
So it was!


Microsoft probably say this for every new MS. However, WinME
is commonly regarded as a minor upgrade and also as a lame duck.
I suspect that Microsoft would prefer to forget it.

The OP didn't bring up Me, you did...
Agreed, but the OP suggested that Windows ME was built on
Windows 2000, which is clearly not the case.

Read it again, it was never stated. In fact Me was never mentioned
until you brought it up.

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Terry R.

The date and time was 1/10/2008 4:27 PM, and on a whim, John John
pounded out on the keyboard:
I think that the OP deliberately crafted his post to try to confuse and
muddle things. He almost completely ignores, or is almost completely
ignorant of the NT lineage and he tries to present XP as a completely
new operating system, which of course it wasn't.

John

Since neither NT nor W2k were "PnP" (in the real sense of the word) and
were designed for business use, it was in effect "new" in the fact that
it combined the NT kernel with PnP capabilities for home and business.

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John John

John John wrote:

Since neither NT nor W2k were "PnP" (in the real sense of the word) and
were designed for business use, it was in effect "new" in the fact that
it combined the NT kernel with PnP capabilities for home and business.

Much as I suspected, you never used anything other than Windows 98
before you stumbled onto Windows XP and you don't know what you are
talking about. Windows 2000 is a Plug and Play operating system.
Windows XP was far from "new" when it was released, it wasn't anything
much more than Windows 2000 with a new service pack. Windows 2000 with
fluff and eye candy, Windows 2000 with the so-called Fisher Price or
Luna look GUI...

John
 
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Terry R.

The date and time was 1/11/2008 7:35 AM, and on a whim, John John
pounded out on the keyboard:
John John wrote:




Much as I suspected, you never used anything other than Windows 98
before you stumbled onto Windows XP and you don't know what you are
talking about. Windows 2000 is a Plug and Play operating system.
Windows XP was far from "new" when it was released, it wasn't anything
much more than Windows 2000 with a new service pack. Windows 2000 with
fluff and eye candy, Windows 2000 with the so-called Fisher Price or
Luna look GUI...

John

Well you suspected wrong. I have a partition of W2k on my workstation
that I used for years before installing XP, and still keep it. I know
what I'm talking about. NT & W2k were mainly designed for business use
and as I stated, W2k is FAR from the PnP capability that Win9x had and
then XP implemented. Do a little research and learn. I've used W2k and
am VERY familiar with it. And I admin networks that used NT, so I'm
familiar with that also. My main reason to not even put XP on this
workstation was because W2k worked perfectly. But I had to install it
to consult clients. In fact I still have a partition of Win98se, Me,
W2k, and Linux, along with XP. I hardly ever boot into the others, but
they're there.

Regardless of what you think, XP IS stated as being based on the NT
kernel. I know full well that W2k is also. But XP was NEVER advertised
as being based on the W2k kernel. Do a clean install of XP and read the
screens. Then get back to me once you've admitted you're wrong.

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John John

Terry said:
The date and time was 1/11/2008 7:35 AM, and on a whim, John John
pounded out on the keyboard:


Well you suspected wrong. I have a partition of W2k on my workstation
that I used for years before installing XP, and still keep it. I know
what I'm talking about. NT & W2k were mainly designed for business use
and as I stated, W2k is FAR from the PnP capability that Win9x had and
then XP implemented. Do a little research and learn. I've used W2k and
am VERY familiar with it. And I admin networks that used NT, so I'm
familiar with that also. My main reason to not even put XP on this
workstation was because W2k worked perfectly. But I had to install it
to consult clients. In fact I still have a partition of Win98se, Me,
W2k, and Linux, along with XP. I hardly ever boot into the others, but
they're there.

Regardless of what you think, XP IS stated as being based on the NT
kernel. I know full well that W2k is also. But XP was NEVER advertised
as being based on the W2k kernel. Do a clean install of XP and read the
screens. Then get back to me once you've admitted you're wrong.

You absolutely plain and simply do not know what you are talking about,
I have come to the same conclusion as others, you are nothing but a troll!

John
 
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Terry R.

The date and time was 1/11/2008 10:16 AM, and on a whim, John John
pounded out on the keyboard:
You absolutely plain and simply do not know what you are talking about,
I have come to the same conclusion as others, you are nothing but a troll!

John

John John, it really doesn't matter what you think. I'm 100% sure of
what I said. Don't bicker with me. If you believe I'm wrong, PROVE IT. I
gave you ways to substantiate what I stated.

And as far as the conclusions that you and "others" have come to, give
me an instance of where I've ever reacted like a troll. Just because
you've been put in your place is no reason to call someone a troll.
Unless it makes you feel like more of a man...

I can't help you there.

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John John

Terry said:
The date and time was 1/11/2008 10:16 AM, and on a whim, John John
pounded out on the keyboard:


John John, it really doesn't matter what you think. I'm 100% sure of
what I said. Don't bicker with me. If you believe I'm wrong, PROVE IT. I
gave you ways to substantiate what I stated.

And as far as the conclusions that you and "others" have come to, give
me an instance of where I've ever reacted like a troll. Just because
you've been put in your place is no reason to call someone a troll.
Unless it makes you feel like more of a man...

I can't help you there.

Anyone who claims that Windows 2000 is not a plug and play operating
system doesn't know what they are talking about, I need not prove
anything else. Your post was a stupid post, the kind that trolls post
all the time, you are a troll!

Bye,

John
 
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Terry R.

The date and time was 1/11/2008 12:53 PM, and on a whim, John John
pounded out on the keyboard:
Anyone who claims that Windows 2000 is not a plug and play operating
system doesn't know what they are talking about, I need not prove
anything else. Your post was a stupid post, the kind that trolls post
all the time, you are a troll!

Bye,

John

John John,

I NEVER stated that W2k wasn't PnP. Where do you get that? "In the
sense of the word", meant it wasn't nearly as PnP as Win9x or XP was.
There were many items on this workstation alone that XP easily detected
and W2k never did, until specific drivers were made available. The PnP
database of devices on XP was huge in comparison to W2k. That is what I
was talking about.

Sorry if you misunderstood. And I'll forgive your name calling.

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