[Text Editors] Comparison


R

REMbranded

Sorry about the large message. Please snip with vigor in replies to
this message.

I'm about to begin to try to attempt to list the better known text
editors and contrast the features, limitation, registry entries, file
sizes, etc. It's a large project. I can use any input that you might
have. I'm sure there are more quality freeware editors out there.
Remove the three caps to email me, or post in a new message and I will
add it to the list.

The first part was _greatly_ simplified by Susan. She archived
messages with links to enough programs to get started with. Thanks a
billion million Susan!

As to whether this is linked to Pricelessware or not, it really does
not matter to me one way or the other. I'll run it on my site. If it
turns out as I hope it will it might be a good asset to anyone looking
for an editor. Whether PL has a link is to be decided by you all.

I've almost finished downloading the programs that Susan had noted in
archive. I'm going to start installing and noting registry entries and
shared files each program has. I'm going to create several static text
files of varying sizes and test the limits and speed of each.

It's going to be tough to place some of these into a category. Some
programmers editors work great for normal text processing. Some were
built as hybrids. For now, I placed programs that state they are code
editors into the programmer editor listing. The hybrids I left as
normal editors.

Feel free to mirror if you have the time, especially on different
platforms. Most of these are ported to more than one platform.

If you know of a good editor that is not listed here I prefer to
continue with the ones people have used and recommend before hitting
google to find more.
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AbiWord: 3919k
the 2001 threads rated this one as too "beta." It has been developed
since and is currently at version 1.06. It is a cross platform open
source project.
http://www.abisource.com/products.phtml

Atlantis Nova: 761k
This one was suggested as a contender in 2001. There is a shareware
version with more features, but this one sounds like it is worthy of
consideration for the 2004 list.
http://www.rssol.com/en/html/download/nova.htm

Crypt Edit: ~2000k + additional modules
This has been my default editor since I discovered it. It requires
modules for spell checking, hex, human languages, etc.
http://ps.yaroslavl.ru/

CWordPad: 845k
This one has been discontinued, but can still be downloaded below.
It's an older Win 95 Wordpad replacement. It might be useful in older
systems.
http://users.erols.com/fwcetus/cwordpad.htm

Delphad: 1004k
The discussion was the ability to view graphics, html and other files.
There was no ability to edit these in the recent, 2003 thread.
http://www.hushpage.com/Delphad/delphad.html

Editor2: 55k!
"Editor² v2.0.0.5 is fantastic. It has a lot of functionality
(including clickability to launch URLs) and is extremely, extremely
small and doesn't install. Absolutely an almost perfect, FOR ME,
freeware notepad alternative." I recall some confusion about this one
and another program with a similar name."
http://www.simtel.net/product.php?id=67247

EditPad Lite: 973k (linux version available) [Postcardware]
Handles large text files, lacking in features.
http://www.editpadlite.com/editpadlite.html

EditPad Regular: 309k (year 2000 version) [Postcardware]
An older version of the above it appears.
http://tucows.kr.psi.net/files/EditPadClassic.zip

GNU emacs:
"Emacs is the extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time
display editor.
If this seems to be a bit of a mouthful, an easier explanation is
Emacs is a text editor and more."
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html

EmEditor: 1.27 - went shareware v3.36. I'll look into finding and
archiving the last freeware version if the licence permits
redistribution.

Emojic: v1.4 - 1230k
"A text editor which allows you count characters, words and lines in a
document. Now it even counts the characters in each line and sorts
lines alphebeticaly. Suggested use: Useful for writers and editors."

eWriter: 703k
"32-bit 21st century eTypewriter (for the writer, not the clerk
typist) for use in Windows 95+ and Windows NT."
http://home.earthlink.net/~acorioso/ew_main.htm

gbText: v4.5 - 314k
"gbText provides over 25 methods for quickly making changes to the
content of a text file. Special features include hex viewing of a
file, random data generation, analysis of the word and character
content of a file, and word wrapping to user-defined widths."
http://www.garybeene.com/free/

Jarte: v2.0 - 1693k (with British and American dictionaries)
2001 comment: "It sill seems more limited than Crypt Edit, which I
have replaced Notepad with. Crypt Edit has the eidtor functions, and,
IMHO, much more WP functionality than Jarte, going by the features
list at jarte.com"
http://www.jarte.com/

LCARS Editor (Star Trek):
seems to have been removed from the author's site.

MetaPad: v3.5 -
LE - 45k
FULL - 45.7k (I dunno yet)
"Q: What is the difference between Full version and LE?
A: Technically, the full version utilizes a RichEdit control whereas
LE (Light Edition) uses the older but speedier Edit control (as does
metapad 1.x). LE is somewhat quicker under NT when loading large files
but it does not have the following features: no file size limit on
Win9X, multiple undo/redo, show hyperlinks option, drag & drop text,
editinginsert/overwrite mode. It's up to you to decide which one you
like better!
http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/

Nerdpad: v1.0 - 30k
2001 comment: "Description:
Nerdpad allows you to open and edit program files with WordPad, a text
editor for Windows. Discover easter eggs, game cheats, or view all
program text. Use it to find out what an unknown installer program
will install if you run it."
http://www.zdnetindia.com/downloads/info/877091.html (sounds
interesting..)

NoteKeeper: v0.4 - 1090k
"NoteKeeper is a multi-functional hierarchical information manager.
Many notes and images can be stored within a single NoteKeeper file
and can be grouped into flexible virtual folders enabling easy,
intuitive access at all times. Think of it as an electronic scrapbook
- one which includes compression, encryption, text editing, and simple
organisation. Some suggested uses are: homework/coursework organiser,
journal/diary, digital photo album.Strong encryption is now included
to keep your data away from prying eyes."
All links I've tried so far at to the author's site and it is down,
temporarily I think.

Notemaid: 52k
"Description: NoteMaid gives you the ability to edit Text and Binary
files. It comes with a file wiper (secure deleting) and Join/Split
utility for quick file splicing. Append another text document to the
current document's cursor point instantly. Also features html tags
removal and other tools. It can also download Text and Binary files
off the Internet in http, ftp, or gopher protocol."
2001 comment: "Notemaid : quick, small, large files, does
HTML-stripping, frees up memory, font choices, no ESC-key exit"
http://www.freewareweb.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?ID=648

NotesPad: 97k
"NotesPad is a sensational Windows NotePad replacement ... amazing! It
offers so many options it's like getting behind the steering wheel of
a foreign car it does so much you almost don't know where to start."
http://www.newbie.net/NotesPad/

NoteTab Light: 1796k
"NoteTab Light: a free Notepad replacement, feature-rich text editor,
and HTML editor"
http://www.notetab.com/ntl.php

PFE: v1.01 - 607k
"The final release of PFE is version 1.01, which is available in
versions for Windows 9x, Windows NT, Windows 2000 and Windows 3.1x.
It's available from a number of major archive sites."
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/

Prolix: V3.2 - 507k
"Prolix is a Windows text editor which features a clean, intuitive
interface. It is an MDI (multiple document interface) style
application, so it can open many files at once."
http://www.kobayashi.com/prolix.html

RoughDraft: v2.11 - 1812k
"RoughDraft is a donationware word processor designed with the writer
in mind. For a more complete description, read the Overview "
No link found yet.

Scite: v1.54 - 920k
"SciTE is a SCIntilla based Text Editor. Originally built to
demonstrate Scintilla, it has grown to be a generally useful editor
with facilities for building and running programs. It is best used for
jobs with simple configurations - I use it for building test and
demonstration programs as well as SciTE and Scintilla, themselves."
http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html

Shalom Txt: v1.2 - 405k
Shalom Txt is a text editor, meant for editing flat text files with no
formatting. It should be able to run on Windows 9x/ME/NT4 and Windows
2000.
I've tried to make a straightforward editor with all the standard
functions including printing, print preview, popup menu, toolbar, find
and replace, recent files list etc. And then added some extras.
(416 kb; install program that doesn't copy anything to the system
folders;
uninstall program and detailed help file included)."
http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/stxt/

Stratuspad: 1000k
"STRATUSPAD is a text editor and a replacement for WordPad and
Notepad. It allows multiple large files to be opened. It is highly
customizable and includes a spell checker, word count, case
conversion, load workspace, column and line indicators and much more.
Last Freeware version - Home Page features Shareware version.
Download: Version 1.0.1
[ftp://ftp.meiji.ac.jp/mirror/win3/util/stratpad.zip] (1 MB)"

Syn: v2.5.0.24 - 1631k
"syn is an Open Source Text- and Programming Editor with
Syntaxhighlight for many Languages, and some IDE Features, like
starting a program (e.g. Compiler) and capture the output, support for
Projects etc." "Syn is the most downloaded Freeware Text Editor in
2002 on WebAttack"
http://syn.sourceforge.net/

TextMorph: v1.0 beta - 1920k
"TextMorph, is called such because that is essentially what it does -
it morphs text. It is a full text editor (like Notepad) except it also
does so much more. It can do such things as quickly cleaning up
forwarded emails (removing all those ">" signs and so forth),
converting text to and from HTML, searching and replacing text
(including multiple paragraphs of text), changing upper/lower case,
removing trailing carriage returns, and so forth, all with the push of
a button. What's more is it can also repetitively do these tasks
across large numbers of files (using TextMorph's Multiple File Morph
wizard). For instance, if you have 500 text files, you can in less
than a minute, convert all 500 of them to HTML files complete with all
of the formatting that you wish in the files (such as background
image, etc.) This makes TextMorph an ideal program for people who work
with large numbers of text files or archives of HTML or text content,
as it can quickly and easily apply formatting to all files."
http://www.laughandlift.com/programs/index.html


TextShield:
"TextShield is a free, compact word processor with a wealth of
features. Besides those features available with most ordinary word
processors, TextShield has many advanced (but easy-to-use) features.
TextShield can compress files automatically using the popular ZIP
compression, making them as much AS 95% smaller. TextShield saves
files in the universal RTF format, or in plain text. TextShield is
both a word processor and a plain text editor. For maximum
interchangeability, TextShield has a build-in HTML converter and can
save files as Microsoft Word, and other formats, using Microsoft
converters. TextShield supports advanced formatting features, like
hyperlinks, underlining styles, Rainbow Colors and even 3D Text.
TextShield is compact and can easily fit a single 1.44Mb floppy disk
(try installing Word on a floppy...). Finally all these features would
be worthless without a good help system; So TextShield has a 6000 word
help file explaining everything that could be difficult for the
beginning user."
No working link found yet.

The Gun: v2.5 15k!
"Number One Son has just come back from the gym a bit skinnier and a
bit smarter. He now weighs in at 6144 bytes and has had a lot of help
from his friends to parse command lines more consistently across
different versions of Windows..The technique for loading and saving
files has been changed to increase the effective file size limit and
to display binary in normal ascii format. TheGun now has a settings
editor SETGUN.EXE that allows some of the settings in TheGun to be
changed. It does not require the settings editor to be present to
operate correctly.
TheGun is written in 32 bit Microsoft Assembler (MASM) and is a
genuine Portable Executable format file. It does not need any Visual
C++ or Visual Basic runtime DLLs and does not use or write to the
Registry at all. It is fully drag & drop enabled, supports wordwrap
and uses the full operating system based search capacity with case
"sensitive", "insensitive" and "whole word" search.
There is no limit set within TheGun any longer for the maximum file
size, it will be limited by the amount of available memory and the
final loading speed. It has been speed optimised in both file load and
file save.
It uses the operating system capacity for printing which is in turn,
farmed out to Wordpad.Exe. It prints with the margin settings in
WordPad.Exe. It will exit by pressing the ESC key and it starts at a
preset 75% of the screen width & height. It supports right click mouse
for the menu."
http://www.movsd.com/thegun.htm

Quick Editor v3.0f - 139k (from The Gun site)
"From its inception, Quick Editor was designed to be a gimmick free
working tool. It has never been for sale and it cannot be sold or
licenced for any commercial application. Version three is a complete
rewrite to add additional capacity while remaining true to its
original concept, a minimum memory footprint editor that will run
correctly on older machines that do not have a lot of memory or fancy
graphics cards. It will run on Windows versions from Win95b upwards.
The current version builds at 35k in size and for this increase in
size, it has a scripting engine of its own, it has full true type
support for both display and printing, it is fully drag and drop
enabled between instances, can now open text files in excess of 10
megabytes in size, it will both open and save binary files in HEX
notation, it can close and save all instances from any single
instance, it has additional functionality in both search and replace
and is progressively configurable with the add in DLLs that are
supplied with it."
http://www.movsd.com/qed.htm

Win32Pad: v1.3.3 69k (or 30k .zip)
"Filesize is limited to the available memory. (not 64k) Small filesize
with a ton of features. Auto-Indent. Full Intellimouse support. Can
read/write Unix text files. Customizable: Font
Color/Name/Size/Style/Script and Tab Size. Remembers recently opened
files."
http://www.gena01.com

TxtEdit
"TxtEdit is useable as Freeware or Shareware: For the first 30 days,
it will run in shareware mode (trial period). Afterwards, you may
continue using it free of charge and unlimited in FREEWARE mode (some
functions are now disabled). To get back the full functionality,
register TxtEdit by sending us US$ 20.--. You will then get your
personal RegNo!" I imagine this one won't make the cut, but I'm going
to check it out anyway. Strange license.
http://www.luziusschneider.com/Engindex.html

vim: v6.2 - 4040k
"Vim is a highly configurable text editor built to enable efficient
text editing. It is an improved version of the vi editor distributed
with most UNIX systems. Vim is distributed free as charityware. If you
find Vim a useful addition to your life please consider helping needy
children in Uganda." "[2003-06-01] A complete new release of Vim is
waiting to be downloaded! This is mostly a bugfix release, only a few
new features are available: Arabic support, exception handling, GTK 2
support, PostScript printing for 8-bit encodings and a number of
smaller things. Several hundreds of bugs have been fixed. For the full
list of changes do ":help version-6.2" in the new Vim. (Bram
Moolenaar)"
http://www.vim.org/

Winsyntax v2.0 - 453k
"Arisesoft Winsyntax - is a small PHP-code editor with a fast parser
engine and context PHP-help for comfortable coding. Now it supports
parsing for syntax: PHP, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, SQL'92 and extensions
for MySQL and PostgreSQL. Opportunities for customizing of
highlighting and the addition of new languages with highlighting of
syntax for several script languages in one document. Supporting of the
line kinds for PC/UNIX and encoding between ANSI-UTF8-KOI8. The search
and replacing of the text in external files with different encoding.
Build-in File Manager. History of last ten open documents. Alerts for
external change of open documents. Context help for any PHP keyword,
when clicked (F1) on cursor position. The code explorer for
PHP-scripts - tree of the classes with variables and functions.
Selection of the text by columns-lines-symbols. Multiple history of
'Undo-Redo' for the edited documents. Moving the cursor with ignoring
of the line carry - for all width of line. Autoindent of the input
line by start position of the previous line."
http://www.winsyntax.com/

Word Tabs v3.29 - 1529k
"WordTabs is a free word processor that's both a standard text editor
(like Notepad) and a rich text (RTF) editor (like WordPad).
WordTabs uses the latest RTF technology so you can have access to OLE
objects, Internet URLs, multiple undo/redo, and advanced
line/character formatting. Other features include spell checking,
drag-and-drop text editing, word count, case conversion,
find-and-replace, a multi-clipboard text editor, and complete glossary
function."
http://www.aaafreebies.com/programs/wordtabs.htm

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Programming Editors: Many of these can be used as a normal text editor
as well.

CodePad: (dual pane)
Code and hex editor. This one was mentioned for its ability to open a
document in two vertical panes and scroll.
http://shicola.d2.cz/codepad/

ConText:
This looks to be a super editor. The author has written syntax
highlighting for pretty much any language you might use, cobol, c++,
css, html, etc. There are modules for 17 (human) languages also.
http://www.fixedsys.com/context/

Crimson Editor: v3.51 (June 11,2003)
This is another that has styntax highlighting for programmers, or
html. It has a spell checker. This one has serious limitations: lines
4096 characters and files with > 65536 lines lead to reboot :<(
according to the author. He doesn't say which version. I'm going to
check it out.
http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

Jext: ~20 megs
"Jext is a free (as in free beer, covered by the GPL licence) source
code editor written in Java. You can download it, use it, modify it,
redistribute it... your choice, your freedom." Many platforms: I'm
getting the Win32: "This release is targeted for Windows users who do
not own a JVM. A Java Virtual Machine is bundled in this
distribution." Correction, I'm waiting on this one, 20 megs is too
large.
http://www.jext.org/

Side by Side: 685k
"Side-by-Side does what its name implies -- it puts two texts
side-by-side so that you can compare."
http://www.slimeworld.org/galwebde/sideby/index.html




Hex Editors: (Will be last)

A.X.E. - (standing for Advanced Hex Editor)


Frhed: v1.0.156 - 307k
Hex editor, includes C++ source code. Many versions, including .ini
versions with no registry entries.
http://www.kibria.de/ (outstanding page design for anyone who enjoys
a beautiful site)

Hexview: 210k
"HexView is a multiple document Hexadecimal viewer with drag n drop
functionality that can display, print, and print preview any file as a
hex dump. HexView was created as a supplement to our utility, Search
and Replace <search_replace.htm>. However, it is a standalone
application and it does not require Search and Replace. A Japanese
version is also available. Source code for MFC 5.0+ is available also.
http://www.funduc.com/otsoft.htm#hexview

Jedit:
"jEdit is a mature and well-designed programmer's text editor that has
been in development for over 5 years.
While jEdit beats many expensive development tools for features and
ease of use, it is released as free software with full source code,
provided under the terms of the GNU General Public License
<http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html>."
Many plugins, possible good for basic text editing.
http://www.jedit.org/


Special Use:

Bifocal Notepad:
"Bifocal Notepad is a simplified Notepad replacement intended for use
by the visually impaired, or by anyone who is tired of squinting at
tiny text files in the regular Windows Notepad."

Desktop Writer: 1900k v2.2
"Desktop Writer is a powerful word processor designed to be used by
children and people who are not very competent with word processors."
Seems abandoned, I can't find the author's site presently. "While
there are no menus, all buttons are designed to look attractive and
colorful so that a child can easily understand their function and how
to use them."
http://www.softlookup.com/download/down15692.html



Multi-program:

NotesBrowser: 2390k
"Notesbrowser is a professional organizer. You can store notes and
schedule dates in one integrated, easy to use interface. It is a
planning
tool and is suitable for both business and personal application.

This utility is very user-friendly and customisable. It can store your

to-do-lists, your appointments, your bookmarks and project files and
even your MP3 play lists.

An integrated search function allows you to quickly locate entries.
A number of attractive skins <./skins/skins.html> are also available
to modify
the design of the interface to one of your preference.

Because of its unique design, you can store an almost unlimited
amount of information in Notesbrowser and, what is more,
you can access any stored information with just a couple of
mouse clicks. No wonder Notesbrowser has won many awards
<./awards/awards.html>!

All in all, Notesbrowser offers you a very easy-to-use system
for entering and managing your appointments, your addresses,
your notes, etc. all in one place."
http://www.notesbrowser.com/


Stats:

TEXT ANALYSER? Text Information: v1.2 - 30k
This seems to be a program that gives many stats about a text file.
http://www.qjc.cjb.net/ti.html

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My Qualifications?

I am currently Microsoft Certified as 9th place from the people who
post in alt.comp.freeware... as to regularity. I am currently on a
high bran/fiber diet and hope to place within the top 5 soon.

Nanu-nanu.
 
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Susan Bugher

I'm about to begin to try to attempt to list the better known text
editors and contrast the features, limitation, registry entries, file
sizes, etc. It's a large project. I can use any input that you might
have. I'm sure there are more quality freeware editors out there.
Remove the three caps to email me, or post in a new message and I will
add it to the list.

The first part was _greatly_ simplified by Susan. She archived
messages with links to enough programs to get started with. Thanks a
billion million Susan!

YW - and you have been *very* busy since!
As to whether this is linked to Pricelessware or not, it really does
not matter to me one way or the other. I'll run it on my site. If it
turns out as I hope it will it might be a good asset to anyone looking
for an editor. Whether PL has a link is to be decided by you all.

I already know how I'm going to cast *my* vote. ;)
I've almost finished downloading the programs that Susan had noted in
archive. I'm going to start installing and noting registry entries and
shared files each program has. I'm going to create several static text
files of varying sizes and test the limits and speed of each.

It's going to be tough to place some of these into a category. Some
programmers editors work great for normal text processing. Some were
built as hybrids. For now, I placed programs that state they are code
editors into the programmer editor listing. The hybrids I left as
normal editors.

Feel free to mirror if you have the time, especially on different
platforms. Most of these are ported to more than one platform.

If you know of a good editor that is not listed here I prefer to
continue with the ones people have used and recommend before hitting
google to find more.

<ENORMOUS SNIP>

IMO this could be a wonderful resource for alt.comp.freeware
participants - I hope everyone will post comments and information about
their favorite editors ASAP.

Susan
 
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Alexei and Cory Panshin

RoughDraft: v2.11 - 1812k
"RoughDraft is a donationware word processor designed with the writer
in mind. For a more complete description, read the Overview "
No link found yet.
http://www.rsalsbury.co.uk/rd.htm

TextShield:
"TextShield is a free, compact word processor with a wealth of
features. Besides those features available with most ordinary word
processors, TextShield has many advanced (but easy-to-use) features.
TextShield can compress files automatically using the popular ZIP
compression, making them as much AS 95% smaller. TextShield saves
files in the universal RTF format, or in plain text. TextShield is
both a word processor and a plain text editor. For maximum
interchangeability, TextShield has a build-in HTML converter and can
save files as Microsoft Word, and other formats, using Microsoft
converters. TextShield supports advanced formatting features, like
hyperlinks, underlining styles, Rainbow Colors and even 3D Text.
TextShield is compact and can easily fit a single 1.44Mb floppy disk
(try installing Word on a floppy...). Finally all these features would
be worthless without a good help system; So TextShield has a 6000 word
help file explaining everything that could be difficult for the
beginning user."
No working link found yet.

Development seems to have been suspended, but you can apparently still
get it through Simtel. Here's one site with a link:

http://www.softpile.com/Business/Text_Utilities/Review_08464_index.html


Cory Panshin
 
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mike555

----- snip ------
RoughDraft: v2.11 - 1812k
"RoughDraft is a donationware word processor designed with the writer
in mind. For a more complete description, read the Overview "
No link found yet.
----snip -----

http://www.rsalsbury.co.uk/rd.htm is the link for RoughDraft ,
I use this one , it's great for rich text writing , it lets you put
in
special characters easier than most any others , has all the basic
features , like clickable url's , a good print preview ,has spell
check and uses wordweb thesaurus/ dictionary , the only down side is
that it doesn't allow pictures to be inserted , and doesn't have some
of the big word processer features , headers,etc ...... but I would
recommend it for every day writing
......... Mike555
 
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jOHn

(e-mail address removed) on Sat, 16 Aug 2003:
I'm about to begin to try to attempt to list the better known text
editors and contrast the features, limitation, registry entries, file
sizes, etc.

In rhe category Metapad/Editpad etc.:

http://jsimlo.sk/notepad/

TED Notepad

From the site:
"TED Notepad was designed to completely replace Windows Notepad.
Besides that, it has a variety of text tools, functions, features and
hotkeys, optimized to the highest performance; while keeping the
intuitive conservative user interface. In this small application you
can find a lot of unix-like text functions and tools; hotkeys; a lot
of settings; clipboards; ... . Process your text in one small and
quick application instead of using a variety of programs and systems
as you (maybe) used before.
The application was developed at the Labs of Faculty of
Mathematics and Physics of the Charles University in Prague; written
in pure ANSI C language (no MFC, no C++, no Borland), using the system
API functions, compiled with Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0. TED was
developed to be the most stable and fastest possible program. It's
without wizards and objects".

No fancy stuff just a good, stable and fast Notepad replacement imho.

jOHn
 
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REMbranded

I don't often see mention of this little gem, it is one of my favorites that
I used to replace CryptEdit: AEdit
(http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/axart/english.html#aedit)...it
seems a little faster, has spell checking, and the usual .rtf features. I
prefer the 5.0 Beta over the 4.0 version because it adds a frequently
accessed document tab on the left side of the window and so far the Beta
has been stable for me. The basic editor installs without any registry
changes ala "Green Award" at TinyApps.Org (http://www.tinyapps.org/) but
you need to also download the spell checking and printing modules if these
are important to you.I use it in conjuction with another program called:
Envelope Wizard(http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?id=12314) for
printing envelopes, and seldom have to use one of the larger Office
Suites...sweet. Only one disturbing thing; the group that developed AEdit
appears to have disbanded so it may disappear soon as well. Get it while
you can.

Thanks for the information. It looks like a nice program and "green"
is always good!

From the site:

"AxArt.com closes
Today (February 15 2003) our small team is officially disbanded. All
activities are suspended until further advice.
Disaffection started some months ago: nobody like to work almost for
free... forever. I can blame nobody: as it is, AxArt.com does not
work. I must admit it. And I too, I give up now. It is fool to insist
in this direction. I invested all myself here, like a love, but I also
can no longer sacrifice social relations, sleep and health for about
nothing.

I'd like to thank everyone who supported AxArt.com and especially the
old team, beta testers, and registered users."

They appear to be very dedicated in previous efforts. I'll give a go
at the beta and the sx versions:

AEdit 5.0 (beta 1) - 369k

AEdit SX (v4.0-SX r3) - (1,37Mb - freeware) ultra-fast version, with
Spell Checker (+ english dictionary) and Print Preview/Setup

http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/axart/english.html#aedit






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REMbranded

(e-mail address removed) (mike555) wrote:
http://www.rsalsbury.co.uk/rd.htm is the link for RoughDraft ,
I use this one , it's great for rich text writing , it lets you put
in special characters easier than most any others , has all the basic
features , like clickable url's , a good print preview ,has spell
check and uses wordweb thesaurus/ dictionary , the only down side is
that it doesn't allow pictures to be inserted , and doesn't have some
of the big word processer features , headers,etc ...... but I would
recommend it for every day writing
........ Mike555

Thanks. Do you know of any others that might be especially good for
authors or writers of large documents?

I used to try to write. I think Stephen King's 'The Stand" got me
interested. I'm no good of course, but I gave it a shot at Sci-Fi.

Anyway, I found writing in word processors clumsy. I ended up using NE
(Never Edlin) for DOS. It had wordwrap and a spell checker and copy
and paste. I was more comfortable using that than anything else I
tried.
 
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REMbranded

(e-mail address removed) on Sat, 16 Aug 2003:
In rhe category Metapad/Editpad etc.:

TED Notepad
From the site:
"TED Notepad was designed to completely replace Windows Notepad.
Besides that, it has a variety of text tools, functions, features and
hotkeys, optimized to the highest performance; while keeping the
intuitive conservative user interface. In this small application you
can find a lot of unix-like text functions and tools; hotkeys; a lot
of settings; clipboards; ... . Process your text in one small and
quick application instead of using a variety of programs and systems
as you (maybe) used before.
The application was developed at the Labs of Faculty of
Mathematics and Physics of the Charles University in Prague; written
in pure ANSI C language (no MFC, no C++, no Borland), using the system
API functions, compiled with Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0. TED was
developed to be the most stable and fastest possible program. It's
without wizards and objects".
No fancy stuff just a good, stable and fast Notepad replacement imho.

Thanks jOHn. I have all 63k of it!
 
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Susan Bugher

It looks like a web page display of all features is going to be
approximately 12 feet wide :<(

Could be a new world record - go for it. ;)
The program will also create web pages and I have Excel too. I'm still
not sure how to make an attractive page that will not require extreme
side scrollng. If anyone has any ideas I'd like to hear them.

Very much off the top of my head - Consumer Reports often tabulates data
with the *main* features in columns and *special* features in footnotes.
They sometimes use a comments column as a key (a, b, c) to the
footnotes:

a) has ability to ______

b) uses _____

c) etc. etc.


Susan
 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Schneider?=

If you know of a good editor that is not listed here I prefer to
continue with the ones people have used and recommend before hitting
google to find more.

.... but you should at least add AnyEdit:
- Open Source
- under active development
- very nice and modern gui
- syntax highlighting
- workspace - projects
- plugin support
- code completion (!)
- auto completion
- project and document templates
- column selection
.... and plenty of other features

I switched from ConTEXT to AnyEdit, mainly because it looks like ConTEXT
isn't under development anymore, and has a very annoying bug (file
deletion --> see ConTEXT forums).

http://www.anyedit.org/ (homepage) or
http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/anyedit/ (project page with sources)
 
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REMbranded

Susan Bugher <[email protected]> wrote:
Very much off the top of my head - Consumer Reports often tabulates data
with the *main* features in columns and *special* features in footnotes.
They sometimes use a comments column as a key (a, b, c) to the
footnotes:
a) has ability to ______
b) uses _____
c) etc. etc.

That will work. Thanks!


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REMbranded

Jörg Schneider <[email protected]> wrote:
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
... but you should at least add AnyEdit:
- Open Source
- under active development
- very nice and modern gui
- syntax highlighting
- workspace - projects
- plugin support
- code completion (!)
- auto completion
- project and document templates
- column selection
... and plenty of other features
I switched from ConTEXT to AnyEdit, mainly because it looks like ConTEXT
isn't under development anymore, and has a very annoying bug (file
deletion --> see ConTEXT forums).

Thanks very much. It looks very nice, is open source and I have never
even heard of it. I am downloading it now.
 
B

BillR

I've looked at the features offered by each of the editors that I have
downloaded so far and I'm unsure of the best way to arrange the
information.

It looks like a web page display of all features is going to be
approximately 12 feet wide :<(
<Snip>
Selectivity
Rather than attempting to analyze a vast number of products right
away, please consider choosing eight to twelve of the most popular,
most nominated, most highly rated in other reviews, or your personal
favorite, products to compare (beginning with the PL of course <g>).
Use these to develop the core set of features to be evaluated, the
level of detail, the specific content, and general approach.

Storage
"I'm downloading the relational database ... plworx. .... I think 50
fields will be plenty enough. "

Eventually a RDBMS would be a great place for the data to reside. I'm
not familiar with plworx -- most of my RDBMS experience has been with
ORACLE (with a year of very early SYBASE and a sprinkle of MS ACCESS)
and non-relation DBMSs -- but I would suggest sticking with EXCEL
until you have thoroughly analyzed the features of a number of
products. My personal experience as well as observation of others
suggests that initial exploratory work is best done in a very flexible
tool. You are going through an evolutionary process to determine the
data. You will change your mind several times before you settle on
the categories (fields/columns/data items) and how to populate them.

Most of the data can be stored in a very simple relational structure
that is very clean and flexible, but that structure not directly
supported by most display tools. I'll be glad to talk with you in
another forum (for the benefit of some: e.g., email or messaging;
i.e., not in the ng; and yes, I do know several definitions of
"forum") about the best relational structure for the project given the
tool you select -- if you would like. (I don't know what kinds of
applications you have worked on, so please don't read any
condescension into my comments. For all I know, you too have spent
most of your professional life building db applications and half of it
specializing in data analysis/admin and db design; or maybe you are a
spreadsheet maven -- which I am not.)

To preempt the flaming: branded mentioned EXCEL as a place for start
-- not finish; of course a freeware spreadsheet "should" be used, but
if branded is doing the work, has it, and is comfortable, then just
can it. Basic spreadsheets are easily exchanged between packages.
The rest of ACF won't be affected. Not even if someone jumps in to
help analyze editors. (Hmm, canned flames. A new energy source for
the world? Naw, too polluting.)

Display
I would envision an "ideal" interface as a matrix with categories and
subcategories that would be be "12 feet wide" when fully expanded --
and probably just as tall given the number of suggestions. The user
would first see a one page "summary" and then have the opportunity to
limit the products and drill down within one or more categories. The
matrix would be easily "folded" to hide categories, reordered by sort
or drag, filterable, etc.

As a practical matter, the PL site might provide only the summary and
drill down within an individual category, but make the data available
for further manipulation. Someone who has done a lot of site
development may even have scripts already available that need little
more than file name changes to generate these pages on the fly.

I have used or helped develop some very flexible yet reasonably easy
to use displays of matrix information, but not with freeware.
Freeware capabilities abound, though, such as text table to HTML table
generators.

BillR
 
B

BillR

Sorry about the large message. Please snip with vigor in replies to
this message.

I'm about to begin to try to attempt to list the better known text
editors and contrast the features, limitation, registry entries, file
sizes, etc. It's a large project. I can use any input that you might
have. I'm sure there are more quality freeware editors out there.
If you know of a good editor that is not listed here I prefer to
continue with the ones people have used and recommend before hitting
google to find more.
=====================================================
<Snip - with vigor>

Quite an undertaking. Quite a list from Susan alone. Please exercise
editorial control to selectively reduce the list based on category,
popularity, recommendations, features, performance, ....

Here are a few editors I've seen praised. My apologies if my quick
text search failed to prevent a duplicate. Most of the list are HTML
editors. Apply the aforementioned editorial control if out of your
intended scope.

I assume you are planning to semi-automate some of the testing. Would
that test bed be of use to anyone else?

My simple suggestion has sparked a far more ambitious undertaking than
I would have had the nerve to suggest to the ng. Thanks for plunging
in.

BillR

AnyEdit Professional 2.0 alpha
www.anyedit.org
Programmer's editor

Hackman Lite
http://www.technologismiki.com/hackman/
Programmer's editor

PS Pad
http://pspad.zde.cz/
Programmer's editor

SourceEdit
www.sourceedit.com
Programmer's editor

WinVI
http://www.winvi.de/en/
Programmer's editor

NotePadXP
www.acsoftware.org
Notepad replacemenct

XVI32
http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/ (Link for item on list)
Hex editor


Rest are HTML editors
---------------------

AceHTML Freeware
www.visicommedia.com
HTML editor

Arachnophilia
www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/
HTML editor

Coffee Cup Free HTML
http://www.coffeecup.com/freehtml/
HTML editor

1st Page 2000
www.evrsoft.com
HTML editor

HTML Builder
www.code-builders.com/
HTML editor

HTML-Kit
www.chami.com
HTML editor

TSW WebCoder
http://www.tsware.net/
HTML editor

WebWriter
www.stoneware.dk
HTML editor
 
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REMbranded

(e-mail address removed) (BillR) wrote:
Selectivity
Rather than attempting to analyze a vast number of products right
away, please consider choosing eight to twelve of the most popular,
most nominated, most highly rated in other reviews, or your personal
favorite, products to compare (beginning with the PL of course <g>).
Use these to develop the core set of features to be evaluated, the
level of detail, the specific content, and general approach.

I had thought of that. Many of the programs that I have downloaded
look really nice. It might be best to select a few and get the format
and procedure down though. Very good idea!

Eventually a RDBMS would be a great place for the data to reside. I'm
not familiar with plworx -- most of my RDBMS experience has been with
ORACLE (with a year of very early SYBASE and a sprinkle of MS ACCESS)
and non-relation DBMSs -- but I would suggest sticking with EXCEL
until you have thoroughly analyzed the features of a number of
products. My personal experience as well as observation of others
suggests that initial exploratory work is best done in a very flexible
tool. You are going through an evolutionary process to determine the
data. You will change your mind several times before you settle on
the categories (fields/columns/data items) and how to populate them.

Again, very nice ideas!
Most of the data can be stored in a very simple relational structure
that is very clean and flexible, but that structure not directly
supported by most display tools. I'll be glad to talk with you in
another forum (for the benefit of some: e.g., email or messaging;
i.e., not in the ng; and yes, I do know several definitions of
"forum") about the best relational structure for the project given the
tool you select -- if you would like. (I don't know what kinds of
applications you have worked on, so please don't read any
condescension into my comments. For all I know, you too have spent
most of your professional life building db applications and half of it
specializing in data analysis/admin and db design; or maybe you are a
spreadsheet maven -- which I am not.)

No, I'm new to database. I have seen and worked with Access for the
last three weeks. And I began playing around with dBWorx earlier. That
is the extent of my experience. I played with Excel the previous three
weeks and a little with the Open Office version a year or so ago..

I'm not sure this will be of interest to anyone else or not, but
either here or in email is fine with me.
To preempt the flaming: branded mentioned EXCEL as a place for start
-- not finish; of course a freeware spreadsheet "should" be used, but
if branded is doing the work, has it, and is comfortable, then just
can it. Basic spreadsheets are easily exchanged between packages.
The rest of ACF won't be affected. Not even if someone jumps in to
help analyze editors. (Hmm, canned flames. A new energy source for
the world? Naw, too polluting.)

Open Office is Excel compatible. I just don't have it on my new setup
right now and it's a sizable download at 26,400.
Display
I would envision an "ideal" interface as a matrix with categories and
subcategories that would be be "12 feet wide" when fully expanded --
and probably just as tall given the number of suggestions. The user
would first see a one page "summary" and then have the opportunity to
limit the products and drill down within one or more categories. The
matrix would be easily "folded" to hide categories, reordered by sort
or drag, filterable, etc.

Exactly. How to implement is my problem. To show the desired
information without inundating the viewer.
As a practical matter, the PL site might provide only the summary and
drill down within an individual category, but make the data available
for further manipulation. Someone who has done a lot of site
development may even have scripts already available that need little
more than file name changes to generate these pages on the fly.
I have used or helped develop some very flexible yet reasonably easy
to use displays of matrix information, but not with freeware.
Freeware capabilities abound, though, such as text table to HTML table
generators.

Sounds good. If no one expresses interest in this area we can go
email. I appreciate the ideas and help!
 
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CeeGee

Sorry about the large message. Please snip with vigor in replies to
this message.

I'm about to begin to try to attempt to list the better known text
editors and contrast the features, limitation, registry entries, file
sizes, etc. It's a large project. I can use any input that you might
have. I'm sure there are more quality freeware editors out there.
Remove the three caps to email me, or post in a new message and I will
add it to the list

Perhaps you might like to consider also:
Edxor (33.5Kb)
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/edxor.htm
==
EDXOR is a versatile, convenient and optimal text editor and file processor
that far surpasses the capabilities of other Notepad-like applications. It
offers innovative clipboard handling, cryptographic options and logic text
conversions, great for education, fun, or privacy. EDXOR is small,
self-contained, dependency-free and very fast. It provides over 90 menu
items, including many unique functions and options, for diverse
applications. Freeware
AND
NoteXpad (255Kb) http://www.pediy.com/temp/NoteXPad/NoteXPad.htm
Use the link at bottom right of graphic - one up from absolute bottom -
you'll see why.
==
Written entirely in Win32 assembly!
Filesize is limited to the available memory (not 64k).
Automatically detects ANSI(default)/Unicode/Unicode (big endian)/UTF-8
encoded characters and
WIN(default)/UNIX/MAC file formats, when opening files, can convert
between various file formats
and encodings when saving files.
Recent used files list (will handle up to 10 entries).
Customize Tools Menu.
Auto-indent & Tab Size support.
URLs can be highlighted and clickable.
Associate any file extensions with NoteXPad and can intelligently revert to
former association.
Can open any files through integrating NoteXPad into Explorer.
Convert Tabs<-> Spaces.
Convert text case (Upper, Lower, Invert Case).
Copy on Select.
Paste on Copy.
Wrap to Return.
Inform you when current opened file is modifed by another application.
etc. etc.
 
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REMbranded

(e-mail address removed) (BillR) wrote:
<Snip - with vigor>
Quite an undertaking. Quite a list from Susan alone. Please exercise
editorial control to selectively reduce the list based on category,
popularity, recommendations, features, performance, ....

Yes, I was thinking of doing text first. Many programming editors
might be included as hybrids, then straight programming editors, html
and then hex.
Here are a few editors I've seen praised. My apologies if my quick
text search failed to prevent a duplicate. Most of the list are HTML
editors. Apply the aforementioned editorial control if out of your
intended scope.
I assume you are planning to semi-automate some of the testing. Would
that test bed be of use to anyone else?

I'm not sure how to automate. Ideas are most definitely invited.

First, I want to note the number of registry entries and files that
are placed outside the program directory as I install each.

I was thinking of static text files in multiples of 25 megs as a test
on the limitations of working with large files.

Smaller text files for the "notepad" type editors are necessary.

One file with a million characters on a single line to test the
ability to deal with farkled CR/LF. I've seen one program that says it
chokes on line lengths > 4096 characters.

I was thinking of hitting them with a stopwatch at the limits of the
program to see if there are programs with superior I/O routines (and
I'm sure some will) and if the program has a limit other than the
amount of dynamic memory.

Then maybe timing a search and replace close to file limits and then
on a smaller file also. Same for a sort.

I thought that rebooting and retiming the slower programs to make sure
the previous tests did not affect them would be good. If it looks like
it does I'll reboot at every test.

I'll probably make notes, such as a frozen mouse, or how back ground
programs are running, and generally how the machine is functioning as
the editor is performing I/O. It's a new setup. I can tell pretty
quickly when I've run a program that left it in disarray. Hopefully
most of these are well written programs, as most have come as a
recommendation of one sort or another.
My simple suggestion has sparked a far more ambitious undertaking than
I would have had the nerve to suggest to the ng. Thanks for plunging
in.

Everyone needs something to do. I like text processing for some
reason.

Thanks for the list. I have it setup for tomorrows downloading.

If anyone has any early PL nominations for Text Editor I'll begin with
those suggested and you can try the same tests on your own machine.
 
S

Simon

a suggestion, if I may...

in order to keep this simple (in line with the 'original' discussions that
this has grown from), why not limit the web version to the common or
'basic' feature sets. This should reduce your tables somewhat (from the
anticipated 12' plus).

A more comprehensive matrix could be available for download, probably in a
CSV/text format (that everyone should be able to open/manipulate with their
current choice of editor)....

This way your spreadsheet can be a work in progress, with updates as and
when you have added new content or changed/improved the format, and it will
simplify the content you have to publish (and your workload)

keep up the good work REMbranded!!!
 
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Bill V.

I'm downloading the relational database that RL posted earlier this
week.

http://www.geocities.com/plworx/ 801k

That will serve as a place to input the data. I

I don't think it's a very good program yet, too may limitations
regarding appearance for instance. I recommend using CSVdb until
something better comes along:

http://home.hccnet.nl/s.j.francke/software/software.htm

It's certainly not perfect either, and not relational, but it's quite
useful already as it is, and very easy to use. The format is CSV, or
whatever delimiter you choose, which means you can export data to
(import into) other database programs. You can export to an HTML
table, the whole lot or selected columns or rows. There is no way to
avoid horizontal scrolling in a web page if you choose to have a lot
of columns though, unless the user has a 2 meter screen.

Also, how useful is it to compare small and fast, but simple, Notepad
replacements (e.g. Metapad, Ted Notepad etc.) with word processors or
programmers editors?

Bill V.
 

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