[Text Editors] Web Display - second draft

R

REMbranded

http://www.woundedmoon.org/text/editor.htm

I think I've grouped the various editors better with this page. This
page was created with Excel. Moz doesn't quite render correctly, but
IE and Avant do.

As Susan suggested I listed all text editors on one of the pages and
hopefully anyone that is familar with some of these programs can
supply some of the information.

A utility to write the test files:

http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/maketestfiles1.zip

It's 23k or so and writes several files up to 100 megs.

The text type editors that I have not done are:

Abiword
Atlantis Nova
Barry's emacs
Delphad
EdXOR
eWriter
GNU emacs
Jarte
Nerdpad
NoteKeeper
RoughDraft
Scintilla
Scite
StratusPad
Ted
TextEdit
TextMorph
TextShield
TxtEdit
VDE (DOS)
WinSyntax
WordTabs

I did get links to each working on the editor page above.

None of the programming, hex or html editors have been done yet, but
the I have the links also working with these also.

The headers are the various things I looked for in each of these. I'll
continue, but I go back to the real world on Tuesday :( and won't have
quite as much time to spend on the project.
 
J

j.m.

Cheers on the continued fine work & 2 tiny suggestions:

1) The headers on dark purple are (for me at least) hard to read. Perhaps
white would be a better text colour.

2) Vim is in the Notepad section?


PS

There used to be a *huge* listing called the "Text Editor Compendium"
comparing features of editors available in *Nix. Unfortunately it seems to
have passed from this world (or at least the part of this world on the
net), but a quick serach turned up a mirror of an older copy at:

http://www.rz.go.dlr.de:8081/info/faqs/text_processing/text-editor-
compendium.html

Some of the feature comparisons might be instersting for the more advanced
programming editors.

Also, there's an often overlooked sub-class of 32 bit "text mode" editors
available for Win* which are generally quite loaded with power features and
not too impossible to integrate with a GUI dominated environment.

A few favourites:

FTE http://fte.sourceforge.net/
Setedit http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
Jasspa's MicroEmacs http://www.jasspa.com/

There are some others like JED (http://space.mit.edu/~davis/jedsoft/jed/)
and THE (http://hessling-editor.sourceforge.net/) which have lots of whizzo
features, but are definately *not* for the casual user. Anything that needs
you to edit autoexec.bat to install properly should be approached with
caution (and a sharp stick).
 
S

Susan Bugher

http://www.woundedmoon.org/text/editor.htm

I think I've grouped the various editors better with this page. This
page was created with Excel. Moz doesn't quite render correctly, but
IE and Avant do.

As Susan suggested I listed all text editors on one of the pages and
hopefully anyone that is familar with some of these programs can
supply some of the information.

A very impressive accomplishment. :))

I think it would be nice to have short user reviews from the group to go
with your table. If you would like me to I'll make a draft page for
that. (You did say something about having to go back to work . . . )

Susan
 
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Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:33:45 GMT
(e-mail address removed) ha scritto:
I did some reformatting. I exchanged light blue in place of the darker
purple. See if this is better.

http://www.woundedmoon.org/text/editor.htm

Being the table so wide, don't you think it would be useful to have the
first column repeated at the right end?
When I look for some feature on the last columns I lose the row of the
program I'm checking (ok, ok, maybe my age...)
 
R

REMbranded

A very impressive accomplishment. :))
I think it would be nice to have short user reviews from the group to go
with your table. If you would like me to I'll make a draft page for
that. (You did say something about having to go back to work . . . )

That will be great Susan. I'll keep piddling away at the list and try
to fill in the details for the other programs.
 
R

REMbranded

Being the table so wide, don't you think it would be useful to have the
first column repeated at the right end?
When I look for some feature on the last columns I lose the row of the
program I'm checking (ok, ok, maybe my age...)

That's true. I'll see if I can't make it easier to follow across.
 
S

Susan Bugher

That will be great Susan. I'll keep piddling away at the list and try
to fill in the details for the other programs.


http://www.pricelessware.org/2003/TextEditors.htm

This is a rough draft (data to be added later).

I think it would be helpful to have one or two comments that tell what
makes an editor stand out from the crowd - or cautionary notes - or any
other information you feel would be useful.

For an example of what kind of input I'm thinking of - please take a
look at the entry for PsPad - I added some comments from a post by Ahoy
Mate.

Please post a comment on your favorite editor (and comments on the web
page).

Susan
 
J

j.m.

Susan Bugher said:
http://www.pricelessware.org/2003/TextEditors.htm

This is a rough draft (data to be added later).

I think it would be helpful to have one or two comments that tell what
makes an editor stand out from the crowd - or cautionary notes - or any
other information you feel would be useful.

Looks like a great start, will this be integrated into the main site once
it's filled in a bit?

I think mdiNotepad (http://koti.mbnet.fi/~fidgety/) has some features that
make it worthy of note:

* MDI (surprise!) instead of tabs, if that's your cup of tea
* Programmable abbreviation expansion (somewhat misleadingly named
autocomplete)
* Integrated template & snippet librarian
* Hilite selected text, including a "find and hilite" function
* Built in file browser
* "Open With..." for using external viewers
* Programable Fkeys using its own macro language
* A "Paste Special" function that offers several cleanup/modify options for
clipboard text
* An "execute" function -- e.g. type "command.com" in a file, select it and
hit execute and comand.com will be launched (also works with URLs, files and
directories)

Download size is a little over 800k, executable size is 1.16M (397k after an
intimate encounter with UPX) -- not sure of the max file size, but it is
quite spritely opening 800+ Kb text files (largest ones I have).
 
A

Alan

That's true. I'll see if I can't make it easier to follow across.

Very nice. Since you've set up a frame at the bottom, I guess you could
put a (vertical) frame at the left, with sync scrolling, containing the
leftmost column of program names. Looks great.
 
S

Susan Bugher

j.m. said:
Looks like a great start, will this be integrated into the main site once
it's filled in a bit?

I think mdiNotepad (http://koti.mbnet.fi/~fidgety/) has some features that
make it worthy of note:

* MDI (surprise!) instead of tabs, if that's your cup of tea
* Programmable abbreviation expansion (somewhat misleadingly named
autocomplete)
* Integrated template & snippet librarian
* Hilite selected text, including a "find and hilite" function
* Built in file browser
* "Open With..." for using external viewers
* Programable Fkeys using its own macro language
* A "Paste Special" function that offers several cleanup/modify options for
clipboard text
* An "execute" function -- e.g. type "command.com" in a file, select it and
hit execute and comand.com will be launched (also works with URLs, files and
directories)

Download size is a little over 800k, executable size is 1.16M (397k after an
intimate encounter with UPX) -- not sure of the max file size, but it is
quite spritely opening 800+ Kb text files (largest ones I have).

IMO it would be good to link the Text Editor pages from the
Pricelessware INFO page - after the pages have been integrated with each
other. :)

IIRC REMbranded asked for review info from others => if you wanr
mdiNotepad listed fill in the the blanks:

Version Tested:
Registry Entries:
Program exe Size: k:
Program Download Size: k:
Max Working File Size: Megs:
Search & Replace:
Spell Checker:
Thesaurus:
RTF:
Macros:
Encryption:
External Viewer:
Call Mail Program:
Export:
Auto Save:
Multiple Files:
Syntax Highlighting:
Wrap To Column #:
Unwrap Text & Save:
Strip Html Tags:
File Wipe:
Split/Join Files:
File Stats:
Split File View:
Bugs:

User Comments:


Susan
 
B

BillR

Susan Bugher said:
IMO it would be good to link the Text Editor pages from the
Pricelessware INFO page - after the pages have been integrated with each
other. :)
<Snip>

The editor comparison pages should (also?) be linked directly from at
least the appropriate category page, Text. Better yet the editor
comparison pages should be linked from each appropriate subcategory as
"SEE" or "Feature Comparison" applicable to the entire subcategory.

BillR
 
R

REMbranded

Very nice. Since you've set up a frame at the bottom, I guess you could
put a (vertical) frame at the left, with sync scrolling, containing the
leftmost column of program names. Looks great.

Excel generated the web pages and it can freeze portions of the page
while working on it, but I haven't figured a way to freeze the editor
names so that the features scroll under them on a web page.

That would be the best way to display the lengthy table.
 

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