Testing compatible cartridges in a Canon IP4200

[measekite]

I still have the full original OEM carts for my iP5000 bought in
December 2004. They're about two years old now so I guess I should use
them out before they lose their flavor. I never bothered registering
the printer and went straight to using a mixture of compatibles and home
refill for the BCI-3e black. Then some months later I went to full
refill, and I'm still at it. Printer works flawlessly with various
aftermarket inks. And why not? No surprise there. My biggest worry was
mechanical breakdown and NOT anything related to the inks. So far so
good with the mechanics and the limited life span printheads they give
us for a laugh and then charge more than 1/2 the price of a new printer
to replace when burnt out!

-Taliesyn

I find that this boy's information is not reliable and I just do not
believe his claims. All of his claims conflict with adult professionals
who I favor to believe due to their professional credibility. One is
Wilhem who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars. This person has to
save lunch money to buy generic ink.

 

[measekite]

Hey, Canon has to make their money someplace if we're not buying OEM
ink. The cost of a print head for the iP4000/MP780 is still less
than the cost of a set of OEM cartridges. I'll be using our
non-chipped Canon printers until their wheels fall off. Even then, I
have a big roll of duct tape and bailing wire sitting on the shelf to
patch them up again.

What a joke and a very bad deal ($80.00) for a printhead. I can get a
brand new printer, an IP4300 that uses the latest Canon ink technology
that also includes a full set of OEM inks that a more fade resistant
than the previous set. I still am not sure if the quality is any better.

 

[Who Cares]

I find that this boy's information is not reliable and I just do not
believe his claims. All of his claims conflict with adult
professionals who I favor to believe due to their professional
credibility. One is Wilhem who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Money from who, Canon, HP and Epson, Tartaglia? What else would you
expect for tests paying "hundreds of thousands of dollars".

 

[Frank]

@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:


Money from who, Canon, HP and Epson, Tartaglia? What else would you
expect for tests paying "hundreds of thousands of dollars".

Observe the insane bullshit of meashershithead. He refers to the op as
"boy" and his references as "adult professionals". When in reality he
himself is a "fool". Observe this "professional" tester wilhem. He makes
"hundreds of thousands of dollars" so we have to believe his results
right?
Bullshit! He is paid by the majors to test their ink against selected
inferior inks so that the majors can use the "test results" in their
advertising claims.
Kill file this moron.
Frank

 

[zakezuke]

I find that this boy's information is not reliable and I just do not
believe his claims. All of his claims conflict with adult professionals
who I favor to believe due to their professional credibility. One is
Wilhem who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars. This person has to
save lunch money to buy generic ink.

The savings of bulk ink, as measekite pointed out in the past, equal
one pizza a week and sending your kid to prom, in a limo, with a tux
rental. The savings for moderate users can make the difference between
buying a Kia or a Toyota, a Toyota or a Suburu.

 

[measekite]

zakezuke wrote:

measekite wrote:



I find that this boy's information is not reliable and I just do not believe his claims. All of his claims conflict with adult professionals who I favor to believe due to their professional credibility. One is Wilhem who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars. This person has to save lunch money to buy generic ink.



The savings of bulk ink, as measekite pointed out in the past, equal one pizza a week and sending your kid to prom, in a limo, with a tux rental. The savings for moderate users can make the difference between buying a Kia or a Toyota, a Toyota or a Suburu.


Those who would favor (not favour) generic ink would also favor a Yugo.

 

[Taliesyn]

measekite wrote:




The savings of bulk ink, as measekite pointed out in the past, equal
one pizza a week and sending your kid to prom, in a limo, with a tux
rental. The savings for moderate users can make the difference between
buying a Kia or a Toyota, a Toyota or a Suburu.

For anyone who prints a lot, several thousand can be saved by using
aftermarke/refill inks. In 10 years that could mean the difference
between someone ending up with a Yugo (like Measekite is forced to drive
because ink costs so much ) or me, getting the Camry simply from the
money I saved with aftermarket ink. Obviously, this is only realized if
one prints an awful lot. For someone who prints only a couple of sets of
cartridges a year, well, keep driving that bike you got from the money
you saved not buying OEMs and dream of printing more . . .

-Taliesyn

 

[zakezuke]

The savings of bulk ink, as measekite pointed out in the past, equal
one pizza a week and sending your kid to prom, in a limo, with a tux
rental. The savings for moderate users can make the difference between
buying a Kia or a Toyota, a Toyota or a Suburu.


Those who would favor (not favour) generic ink would also favor a Yugo.

Not really. The people who I know personaly who use nissans drive
Nissans, Toyotas, Hondas, Suburus, and SUV hybrids.

I only know of one Yugo driver, and I don't know him personaly.

 

[Frank]

measekite wrote:




Not really. The people who I know personaly who use nissans drive
Nissans, Toyotas, Hondas, Suburus, and SUV hybrids.

I only know of one Yugo driver, and I don't know him personaly.

I see that jackass meashershithead is at it again. Yugo's died out
decades ago while the after market ink sector is growing by leaps and
bounds. It's highly unlikely that, much to the dismay of oem's (and our
resident troll), that they will disappear like the Yugo did.
Frank

 

[measekite]

For anyone who prints a lot, several thousand can be saved by using
aftermarke/refill inks. In 10 years that could mean the difference
between someone ending up with a Yugo (like Measekite is forced to
drive because ink costs so much )

You are not even old enough to drive. Also you cannot even get into a
bar (legally). I do not beleive you even spend that much, You have no
job and I am sure your allowance is not that bit.

Of course the money you get from mowing grass and shoveling (?snow) has
to go far.

or me, getting the Camry simply from the
money I saved with aftermarket ink.

I doubt you could afford to spend $30,000 on a Camry. A real joke.

Obviously, this is only realized if one prints an awful lot. For
someone who prints only a couple of sets of cartridges a year, well,
keep driving that bike you got from the money you saved not buying
OEMs and dream of printing more . . .

The intelligence here is to buy an inket printer and use it a lot using
generic ink and some cheap paper and walla now you can afford a car. :-[
:-D :-D

 

[zakezuke]

Of course the money you get from mowing grass and shoveling (?snow) has
to go far.

I doubt you could afford to spend $30,000 on a Camry. A real joke.

I've believe $30,000 canadian for a camry for the XLE.

MSRP US is about $20,000 for a base model. XLE with a v6 $26,000 or
so, but more like $22,000 retail.


I'm not sure of the retail price of the Camry up north, but we're
talking $25,000 canadian for the LE, about $33,000 for the XLE with the
v6.

Assuming $15,000 and 1.8apr that's about $260/month for 60 months
Assuming $20,000 and 1.8APR that's about $350/month for 60 months.
Assuming $25,000 and 1.8apr that's about $435/month for 60 months.
Assuming $30,000 and 1.8apr that's about $525//month for 60 months

The difference between $5000 is about $90/month. Given that ink is
costing there and abouts of $70 a set, and assuming someone is burning
a set of cartridges/month, and bulk ink costs there and abouts of 90%
less, you can easily see how that extra cash could easily jump you to
the next class of car, or at least the same car but nicely loaded. We
are talking over $3500.00 in savings in 60 months.

 

[Frank]

measekite wrote:




I've believe $30,000 canadian for a camry for the XLE.

MSRP US is about $20,000 for a base model. XLE with a v6 $26,000 or
so, but more like $22,000 retail.


I'm not sure of the retail price of the Camry up north, but we're
talking $25,000 canadian for the LE, about $33,000 for the XLE with the
v6.

Assuming $15,000 and 1.8apr that's about $260/month for 60 months
Assuming $20,000 and 1.8APR that's about $350/month for 60 months.
Assuming $25,000 and 1.8apr that's about $435/month for 60 months.
Assuming $30,000 and 1.8apr that's about $525//month for 60 months

The difference between $5000 is about $90/month. Given that ink is
costing there and abouts of $70 a set, and assuming someone is burning
a set of cartridges/month, and bulk ink costs there and abouts of 90%
less, you can easily see how that extra cash could easily jump you to
the next class of car, or at least the same car but nicely loaded. We
are talking over $3500.00 in savings in 60 months.

Nicely presented Z, although I seriously doubt meashershithead will
understand the math.
THX
Frank

 

[Taliesyn]

measekite wrote:




I've believe $30,000 canadian for a camry for the XLE.

MSRP US is about $20,000 for a base model. XLE with a v6 $26,000 or
so, but more like $22,000 retail.


I'm not sure of the retail price of the Camry up north, but we're
talking $25,000 canadian for the LE, about $33,000 for the XLE with the
v6.

Assuming $15,000 and 1.8apr that's about $260/month for 60 months
Assuming $20,000 and 1.8APR that's about $350/month for 60 months.
Assuming $25,000 and 1.8apr that's about $435/month for 60 months.
Assuming $30,000 and 1.8apr that's about $525//month for 60 months

The difference between $5000 is about $90/month. Given that ink is
costing there and abouts of $70 a set, and assuming someone is burning
a set of cartridges/month, and bulk ink costs there and abouts of 90%
less, you can easily see how that extra cash could easily jump you to
the next class of car, or at least the same car but nicely loaded. We
are talking over $3500.00 in savings in 60 months.

I calculate I'll get that Camry by 2027 . . . . ;-) (if not new, used!)

-Taliesyn