Tester of Beta 2 of Vista can I go to RC1?

G

Guest

I was testing Beta 2 of Vista and can I get RC1 at all? I currently am using
Beta 2 of Vista, but will I be able to "upgrade" or download RC1?
 
M

MICHAEL

Matt Carter said:
I was testing Beta 2 of Vista and can I get RC1 at all? I currently am using
Beta 2 of Vista, but will I be able to "upgrade" or download RC1?

Yes. I'd be watching your email inbox that you used when you
signed up for Beta2. Be sure to check any junk mail folders, too.

Or, watch this newsgroup. I'm sure once RC1 becomes available
to the CPP users, it will be posted here quickly. The key you used
for Beta 2 should work with RC1.


-Michael
 
J

Jim Thyne

My understandinfg is that you wil lhave to do a "clean" install of Vista RC1
if you have either Beta 2 or Pre-RC1. Pre-RC1 did allow for a direct
upgrade from Beta 2.

As far as recieiving media of the actual RC1, if you are in the VIP program,
you should receive it via DVD.

HTH,
 
G

Guest

Thank you Michael.
Do you know if I will have to pay the $1.50 to download it as is the case
for the Vista Beta 2? I currently have it. I also have my managers MSDN and
can download it, I don't know if my key will work on his MSDN or if I should
NOT use that! I don't want to get him in trouble!

Do you know if it will be a week or so until the common users get to "view"
RC1?
Just anxious. I can be patient if I need to :)
I am tempted to download from 3rd party, but I don't want to mess up my
system and get "hurt" :)
 
M

MICHAEL

Jim Thyne said:
My understandinfg is that you wil lhave to do a "clean" install of Vista RC1
if you have either Beta 2 or Pre-RC1. Pre-RC1 did allow for a direct
upgrade from Beta 2.

Well, I don't know why an upgrade install would be disallowed.
An "upgrade install" *is* a "clean install. Although, I had problems
with upgrading from 5384 to 5536. I did a clean install. I then
used the upgrade install from 5536 to 5552, it worked beautifully.

Perhaps, it is the upgrading from Beta 2 that is problematic. It
more than likely would be a good thing to just go ahead and do
a clean install of RC1 if you are uising Beta 2 (5384).

When I tried the upgrade install on 5384, it spent 82 minutes to
get to the screen "Please wait while Windows starts for the first time"
and then would keep restarting and never got past that.

The upgrade install of 5536 to 5552 was flawless. It took 45 minutes.
I only had one problem, that has been so since I have been beta testing
Vista. I still have to use my WinXP SigmaTel sound drivers and then use
Windows Update to install the new drivers. Doesn't make sense, but no
other way works.

-Michael
 
M

MICHAEL

Matt Carter said:
Thank you Michael.
Do you know if I will have to pay the $1.50 to download it as is the case
for the Vista Beta 2? I currently have it. I also have my managers MSDN and
can download it, I don't know if my key will work on his MSDN or if I should
NOT use that! I don't want to get him in trouble!

I don't think you should use his key. He shouldn't let you. I realize
it is beta software, and this discussion has been raised here. It is
probably just best to use your own key.

I wasn't aware that anyone was charged for downloading Vista. I thought
they only did that for the Office beta.

I don't think they are going to charge anything. Especially, if you are one
of the original Beta2 CPP users. They would have already said something
about that.
Do you know if it will be a week or so until the common users get to "view"
RC1?

I don't know. I think it will be sooner, rather than later. Like, any day
now.
Just anxious. I can be patient if I need to :)

Patience is a virtue. :)
I am tempted to download from 3rd party, but I don't want to mess up my
system and get "hurt" :)

Just wait- it's coming.


-Michael
 
M

MICHAEL

After thinking on this a bit, I believe what Microsoft really
wants beta users to test is the upgrade install from WinXP
to Vista. Of course, only do this on a *test* machine.

-Michael
 
M

MICHAEL

That's just a dumb idea if they do that.

If the servers are costing this extremely profitable company
too much, just write it off as R&D costs.

-Michael
 
B

Bill

I have pre-RC1 5536 installed now - SO

1. will the same key work with RC1? (Beta 2 key was eaten by my pet snake)
2. is it best to install RC1 clean, and not "update" 5536?
3. is it best to "update" 5536 to RC1?
4. is it best to upgrade a XP Home SP2 drive I have, which is expendable, to
RC1?
5. Can I do what I damn well please and still be OK? :0)


Participants in the new programs may be charged the fee.
 
M

MICHAEL

Bill said:
I have pre-RC1 5536 installed now - SO

Shouldn't be much difference- noticeable- between
5536 and RC1 5600.
1. will the same key work with RC1? (Beta 2 key was eaten by my pet snake)

It should. Unless, Microsoft sends you another in their
notification of RC1 email.
2. is it best to install RC1 clean, and not "update" 5536?

Hard to say, for some upgrade has worked great for some
it has not. Since this is beta and beta testing is what we
do, I'd try the upgrade install. If it doesn't work you can always
do the clean install.
3. is it best to "update" 5536 to RC1?

see above. Whatever makes you happy.
4. is it best to upgrade a XP Home SP2 drive I have, which is expendable, to
RC1?

IMO, this is really what Microsoft wants to be tested the most.
5. Can I do what I damn well please and still be OK? :0)

As long as it is a test machine and/or have good backups-
you're good to go. :)

-Michael
 
B

Bill

Thanks Michael

my plan:
1. clone XP to spare drive
2. drink a beer - eat some pizza
3. ''upgrade'' XP to RC1
4. drink a few more beers - eat a hot fudge sundae
5. reboot and enjoy
6. more beer*
* ''more'' will be determined by problems encountered along this journey

Thanks again Michael





Bill said:
I have pre-RC1 5536 installed now - SO

Shouldn't be much difference- noticeable- between
5536 and RC1 5600.
1. will the same key work with RC1? (Beta 2 key was eaten by my pet snake)

It should. Unless, Microsoft sends you another in their
notification of RC1 email.
2. is it best to install RC1 clean, and not "update" 5536?

Hard to say, for some upgrade has worked great for some
it has not. Since this is beta and beta testing is what we
do, I'd try the upgrade install. If it doesn't work you can always
do the clean install.
3. is it best to "update" 5536 to RC1?

see above. Whatever makes you happy.
4. is it best to upgrade a XP Home SP2 drive I have, which is expendable,
to
RC1?

IMO, this is really what Microsoft wants to be tested the most.
5. Can I do what I damn well please and still be OK? :0)

As long as it is a test machine and/or have good backups-
you're good to go. :)

-Michael
 
M

MICHAEL

You're welcome, Bill.

Sounds like a fine plan to me. :)

Beta testing is a journey. We work so hard to get
things just right, and are so thrilled when we do- then,
once all is working well, we get bored. :)

Take care,

Michael
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

You are absolutely correct. That is what they need testing on the most
because of the incredible variety of things that can go wrong with
incompatible software.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

It was a dumb idea already with the Office beta.

MICHAEL said:
That's just a dumb idea if they do that.

If the servers are costing this extremely profitable company
too much, just write it off as R&D costs.

-Michael
 

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