strange usb gaming device problem

[Guest]

HI

I have trouble with all my usb gaming devices, when I enter any game, they all give input to the game to look down. If I diable the joystick, the games work fine. When I enable it, the view immediatly goes to the floor, and stays there. The view can be moved with the mouse, but will return as soon as the mouse stops moving

my usb devices are an Axispad gamepad, and a Saitek st90 joystick. Both are new within 4 weeks. Both have the same problem, so I believe the gamepad and joystick are not the problem.The joystick did work fine for 2 weeks, then started having the problem

The games I am playing are Unreal 2003, Battlefield 1942, and Americas Army. All have the same symptom, so I believe it is not the games

I have since flashed the bios, update the video and sound drivers, re-installed the usb driver, and unplugged all other usb devices. My hardware is Asus 8X-E motherboard,Amd 2.8, 1 gig Corsair ram, all new componets, only 2 months old. Direct X 9.0b is installed, OS is win 200 pro

I am out of ideas. Anyone have a more detailed knowledge of how to troubleshoot my problem

Thanks for any help in advanc

Rand

 

[all thumbs]

What effect does calibration from game controllers on control panel have?
Saitek has a forum right on their site.

HI,

I have trouble with all my usb gaming devices, when I enter any game, they

all give input to the game to look down. If I diable the joystick, the games
work fine. When I enable it, the view immediatly goes to the floor, and
stays there. The view can be moved with the mouse, but will return as soon
as the mouse stops moving.

my usb devices are an Axispad gamepad, and a Saitek st90 joystick. Both

are new within 4 weeks. Both have the same problem, so I believe the gamepad
and joystick are not the problem.The joystick did work fine for 2 weeks,
then started having the problem.

The games I am playing are Unreal 2003, Battlefield 1942, and Americas

Army. All have the same symptom, so I believe it is not the games.

I have since flashed the bios, update the video and sound drivers,

re-installed the usb driver, and unplugged all other usb devices. My
hardware is Asus 8X-E motherboard,Amd 2.8, 1 gig Corsair ram, all new
componets, only 2 months old. Direct X 9.0b is installed, OS is win 200 pro.

 

[Guest]

The calibration works fine in the control panel. As long as the control panel is open, everything seems normal for both joystick and game pad. But as soon as I launch any game, the problem appears again

Thanks

Randy

 

[all thumbs]

When did you install dx9b? Once I went from 8.x to 9 alot of diff. things
happened that I'm starting to wonder if dx9 maybe. Hard to correlate because
I didn't pay much attention at first. Going to put a fresh install of xp on
one and see what happens with dx8. You might also try setting up a profile
that loads only what you need to run the game, if you haven't done so
already, no printer no virus scan, no network....

HI,

I have trouble with all my usb gaming devices, when I enter any game, they

all give input to the game to look down. If I diable the joystick, the games
work fine. When I enable it, the view immediatly goes to the floor, and
stays there. The view can be moved with the mouse, but will return as soon
as the mouse stops moving.

my usb devices are an Axispad gamepad, and a Saitek st90 joystick. Both

are new within 4 weeks. Both have the same problem, so I believe the gamepad
and joystick are not the problem.The joystick did work fine for 2 weeks,
then started having the problem.

The games I am playing are Unreal 2003, Battlefield 1942, and Americas

Army. All have the same symptom, so I believe it is not the games.

I have since flashed the bios, update the video and sound drivers,

re-installed the usb driver, and unplugged all other usb devices. My
hardware is Asus 8X-E motherboard,Amd 2.8, 1 gig Corsair ram, all new
componets, only 2 months old. Direct X 9.0b is installed, OS is win 200 pro.

 

[Guest]

The joystick had the problem with directx 8. Then I installed directx9b, and after that, bought the gamepad.

I'm still stumped, anyone else have a clue?

Thanks
Randy

 

[Joshua Smith [MSFT]]

Can you give me more details about what you are seeing? Are you getting
error messages? If so, what do they say exactly? What makes and models of
game devices do you have? How do they connect? Did you install the software
that came with the device?

Another thing you could do that might help is to attach a DX Diagnostic
report for me. That would tell me what your hardware was.


DXDIAG:
1. Click Start -> Run
2. Type "dxdiag" without the quotes and press Ok.
3. In the DirectX Diagnostic tool click "Save All Information..."
4. Attach output to your reply.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft

 

[Guest]

All I see is my point of view going down. For example, when you normally log into a game, you are looking straight ahead at the horizon. What I see is I start at this view, then my view steadily goes down to the ground/floor. And there it stays. I can give input with the mouse, and the view will respond to looking up, but as soon as I release, it goes back down
It's like the down button on the gamepad was taped down. There are no error message or warnings. As soon as I disable the joystick or gamepad, all is fine with the mouse

I have a joystick brand Saitek, model ST9
I have a gamepad, brand Axispad (Game Elements), model gge900, driver #2.80 (2003.03
both use us
only the gamepad came with software, and I did install it. The joystick did not have software with it
Below is the dxdiag contents

Thanks for the help

Rand

==============================================

-----------------
System Informatio
-----------------
Time of this report: 2/18/2004, 20:14:5
Machine name: COMPUTER
Operating System: Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195) Service Pack
Language: English (Regional Setting: English
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC
System Model: A7N8X-
BIOS: Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00P
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.1GH
Memory: 1024MB RA
Page File: 184MB used, 2277MB availabl
Windows Dir: C:\WINN
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902
DX Setup Parameters: Not foun
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0902 32bit Unicod

-----------
DxDiag Note
-----------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found
Display Tab 1: No problems found
Sound Tab 1: No problems found
Music Tab: No problems found
Input Tab: No problems found
Network Tab: No problems found

-------------------
DirectX Debug Level
-------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail

--------------
Display Device
--------------
Card name: RADEON 9700 PR
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc
Chip type: RADEON 9700 AGP (0x4E44
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E44&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_0
Display Memory: 128.0 M
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz
Monitor: SyncMaster 905DF(X)/955DF(X), MagicSyncMaster CD195
Monitor Max Res: 1792,134
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dl
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6404 (English
DDI Version: 9 (or higher
Driver Attributes: Final Retai
Driver Date/Size: 12/2/2003 21:57:34, 377344 byte
WHQL Logo'd: Ye
WHQL Date Stamp: n/
VDD: n/
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sy
Mini VDD Date: 12/2/2003 21:57:02, 641536 byte
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D04-11CF-B66A-0820A1C2CB35
Vendor ID: 0x100
Device ID: 0x4E4
SubSys ID: 0x0002100
Revision ID: 0x000
Revision ID: 0x000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

-------------
Sound Devices
-------------
Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: NFORCE_VAD
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0366.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 9/2/2003 15:51:00, 312704 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: NVIDIA Corporation
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 100000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 256, 253
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 63
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0366.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 9/2/2003 15:51:00, 312704 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x40
Format Flags: 0xC00

-----------
DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: Enabled
Ports: NVIDIA(R) Kernel Synthesizer, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
NVIDIA(R) DLS Synthesizer [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

-------------------
DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: GAME ELEMENTS GAMEPAD
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x0C12, 0x0005
FF Driver: C:\WINNT\system32\forcedrv.dll
FF Driver Date: 1/1/2003 23:17:34
FF Driver Version:
FF Driver Size: 61440 bytes

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

-----------
USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 40176 bytes
|
+-+ GAME ELEMENTS GAMEPAD
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x0C12, 0x0005
| | Location: PS Vibration Feedback Converter
| | Matching Device ID: usb\vid_0c12&pid_0005
| | Service: HidUsb
| | OEMData: 03 00 08 10 08 00 00 00
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 10/4/1999 15:03:32, 13904 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 24752 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 23056 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 18192 bytes
| | Driver: zeropage.dll, 3/16/2003 23:58:30, 1089536 bytes
| | Driver: forcedrv.dll, 1/1/2003 23:17:34, 61440 bytes
| | Driver: gmain.exe, 3/5/2002 21:09:28, 32768 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant game controller
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x0C12, 0x0005
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_game
| | | OEMData: 03 00 08 10 08 00 00 00

----------------
Gameport Devices
----------------
+ PCI bus
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0a03
| Service: pci
| Driver: pci.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 59312 bytes
|
+-+ Standard Game Port
| | Matching Device ID: *pnpb02f
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 9808 bytes

------------
PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Upper Filters: DKbFltr
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 46992 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 24528 bytes
|
+ Logitech-compatible Mouse PS/2
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Upper Filters: L8042pr2
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 46992 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 21776 bytes
| Driver: L8042pr2.sys, 7/2/2002 10:21:10, 50830 bytes
| Driver: lmouflt2.sys, 7/2/2002 10:21:10, 70382 bytes
| Driver: lkbdflt2.sys, 7/2/2002 10:21:10, 6030 bytes
| Driver: lcoinst.dll, 7/2/2002 10:21:10, 19180 bytes

 

[Guest]

Forgot the joystick info (wasn't pluged in)


=====================================
-------------------
DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Saitek ST90 USB Stick
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x1
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x0422
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: GAME ELEMENTS GAMEPAD
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x0C12, 0x0005
FF Driver: C:\WINNT\system32\forcedrv.dll
FF Driver Date: 1/1/2003 23:17:34
FF Driver Version:
FF Driver Size: 61440 bytes

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

-----------
USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 40176 bytes
|
+-+ GAME ELEMENTS GAMEPAD
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x0C12, 0x0005
| | Location: PS Vibration Feedback Converter
| | Matching Device ID: usb\vid_0c12&pid_0005
| | Service: HidUsb
| | OEMData: 03 00 08 10 08 00 00 00
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 10/4/1999 15:03:32, 13904 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 24752 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 23056 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 18192 bytes
| | Driver: zeropage.dll, 3/16/2003 23:58:30, 1089536 bytes
| | Driver: forcedrv.dll, 1/1/2003 23:17:34, 61440 bytes
| | Driver: gmain.exe, 3/5/2002 21:09:28, 32768 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant game controller
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x0C12, 0x0005
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_game
| | | OEMData: 03 00 08 10 08 00 00 00

----------------
Gameport Devices
----------------
+ PCI bus
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0a03
| Service: pci
| Driver: pci.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 59312 bytes
|
+-+ Standard Game Port
| | Matching Device ID: *pnpb02f
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 9808 bytes

------------
PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Upper Filters: DKbFltr
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 46992 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 24528 bytes
|
+ Logitech-compatible Mouse PS/2
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Upper Filters: L8042pr2
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 46992 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 6/19/2003 13:05:04, 21776 bytes
| Driver: L8042pr2.sys, 7/2/2002 10:21:10, 50830 bytes
| Driver: lmouflt2.sys, 7/2/2002 10:21:10, 70382 bytes
| Driver: lkbdflt2.sys, 7/2/2002 10:21:10, 6030 bytes
| Driver: lcoinst.dll, 7/2/2002 10:21:10, 19180 bytes

 

[Joshua Smith [MSFT]]

It sounds like one or both of your devices isn't calibrated correctly. Here
is some things for you to try:

Try calibrating the devices.
For each device do the following:
1. Start -> Run -> Control Panel
2. Switch to "Classic View".
3. Run the Gaming Options control
4. In Gaming Options Click the "Properties" button.
5. In the Properties page select the Settings tab at the top
6. Click the Calibrate button.
7. Follow the calibration instructions.

After calibrating you should be able to test your device on the test tab to
see if the axis positions are in the center when you are not inputting
movement to the device. See if it looks different before and after
calibration. I am not sure where or if the Game Elements Gamepad is going to
use their own calibration utility. If the above instructions don't work for
it see if the software has a calibration utility in it somewhere. If it is
USB you can always try uninstalling the devices software and just plug it in
like the Saitek device. Almost all USB game devices will work without the
software they come with. This doesn't always hold true though for some
really old USB devices and most Force Feedback devices. The Rumble gamepads
like yours will often work without the included software but will usually
lose the rumble capabilities. If it doesn't have a calibration utility in
its software and the instructions above don't work for the gamepad then try
to uninstall the software, re-plug the device, calibrate as above, then
reinstall the software. It is a long shot but that might work. Let me know
if you run into trouble.


Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
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[Guest]

yep. first thing I tried was recalibrating them. In the recalibration screen, everything looks fine. all buttons work, all the movements go to the edges, etc. Still when entering the game, the same problem

I appreciate your efforts, any other ideas

Thanks

Randy

 

[Joshua Smith [MSFT]]

Which game(s) is this?


Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft

 

[Guest]

The games I am playing are Unreal 2003, Battlefield 1942, and Americas Army. All have the same symptom.