Starting Win2000 from the C: Prompt

[jw]

Starting Win2000 from the C: Prompt

Windows98 can be started from the C: Prompt by typing "win".
I have Win98se and Win2000 dual booting. I can select at bootup
either the C: prompt (Dos), or Windows 2000. To load Win98 I just
type "win". Yet to start Win2000, I always have to reboot. Is there
any way to start Win2000 from the C: prompt? (There is no win.com
file).

 

[Andrew Rossmann]

Windows98 can be started from the C: Prompt by typing "win".
I have Win98se and Win2000 dual booting. I can select at bootup
either the C: prompt (Dos), or Windows 2000. To load Win98 I just
type "win". Yet to start Win2000, I always have to reboot. Is there
any way to start Win2000 from the C: prompt? (There is no win.com
file).

No. Windows 1-3, 95, 98, and ME were basically a shell that ran on top
of DOS.

NT, 2K, XP, Vista and 7 are basically pure 32-bit (or 64-bit) from boot.
Win2K and newer do offer a recovery mode that is a bit like being in
DOS.

 

[jw]

No. Windows 1-3, 95, 98, and ME were basically a shell that ran on top
of DOS.

NT, 2K, XP, Vista and 7 are basically pure 32-bit (or 64-bit) from boot.
Win2K and newer do offer a recovery mode that is a bit like being in
DOS.

That's what I thought, but I wanted to know for sure. Since I always
start in Dos, it would be handy to be able to change the OS without a
reboot, but I see thats not possible. This is one of the reasons I
prefer Win98. I still use Dos regularly. The Dos shells in Win2000
are not suitable for some of my apps, and for that matter even in
Win98 they dont always work well.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Andrew Rossmann]

That's what I thought, but I wanted to know for sure. Since I always
start in Dos, it would be handy to be able to change the OS without a
reboot, but I see thats not possible. This is one of the reasons I
prefer Win98. I still use Dos regularly. The Dos shells in Win2000
are not suitable for some of my apps, and for that matter even in
Win98 they dont always work well.

What doesn't work well? Also, there is a program called DOSBOX that lets
you run many DOS programs under Windows, graphics and all. It even lets
you run DOS programs under 64-bit Windows.

 

[MyNews]

Start Windows 2000 or 98

On Desktop Chick My Computer
On Top you see Tools click it
Click Folder Options

Click View
click Show hidden files and folders
Uncheck Hide file extensions for known file types
Uncheck Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
Click OK

Go to C:\
You see a File name BOOT.INI
Right Hand Click it
Click Properties
Uncheck Read-only
Click OK

Open the Boot.ini in NotePad
You will add too>

timeout=30

[operating systems]

C:\ = "Microsoft Window 98se SP-1"



_____________
Remember you are adding too do not remove lines
just add the one new Line of text and timeout=0 to 30

Click File save and Close Notepad

ReBoot Windows!

 

[Sid Elbow]

I can't imagine why this should help him "... start Win2000 from the C:
prompt"

The NT-based series (including Win2K) simply don't load in the same way
that Win9x does. Loading is controlled by NTLDR (a hidden file in the
root directory of the boot drive). This is invoked by the primary loader
situated in the MBR.

Starting from the C: prompt is just meaningless for the NT-series.

 

[MyNews]

I can't imagine why this should help him "... start Win2000 from the C:
prompt"

The NT-based series (including Win2K) simply don't load in the same way
that Win9x does. Loading is controlled by NTLDR (a hidden file in the root
directory of the boot drive). This is invoked by the primary loader
situated in the MBR.

Starting from the C: prompt is just meaningless for the NT-series.

You right and wrong at the same time!
His old Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows 2000" /noexecute=optin
/fastdetect

The New Boot.INI

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows 2000" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98"


For Windows 2000 is now D:\ Sid Elbow
You Windows 98 would not work!

 

[Sid Elbow]

You right and wrong at the same time!

The New Boot.INI

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows 2000" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98"

But all you've done is add the Dos/Win98 selection to the multiboot menu.

I have Win98se and Win2000 dual booting. I can select at bootup
either the C: prompt (Dos), or Windows 2000.

So he already *has* that selection (which he would if he installed Win2K
*after* Win98 )


The OP further asked:

Is there any way to start Win2000 from the C: prompt?

And the answer is no. He can start Win2K from the multiboot menu but not
from the (DOS) C: prompt which is what he wants to do. Your boot.ini
mod won't do a thing to change that. Win2K is an OS in it's own right
and loads independently of DOS (unlike Win98 which is simply a shell
running under DOS).

 

[MyNews]

You right and wrong at the same time!

The New Boot.INI

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows 2000" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98"

But all you've done is add the Dos/Win98 selection to the multiboot menu.

I have Win98se and Win2000 dual booting. I can select at bootup
either the C: prompt (Dos), or Windows 2000.

So he already *has* that selection (which he would if he installed Win2K
*after* Win98 )

To load Win98 I just type "win".

We doing away with Just Type "win",
going to a Dial Box so he can pack it out from a list with out the Typing!

In (DOS) C: prompt it look like this!

Please select the operating system to start:


Windows 2000
Microsoft Windows 98

Use ^ and v to more the highlight to you choice,
Press Enter to choose.



For troubleshooting and advanced startup options for Windows 2000, press F8.

The OP further asked:


And the answer is no. He can start Win2K from the multiboot menu but not
from the (DOS) C: prompt which is what he wants to do. Your boot.ini mod
won't do a thing to change that. Win2K is an OS in it's own right and
loads independently of DOS (unlike Win98 which is simply a shell running
under DOS).

For Windows 2000 all ways Start in (DOS) C: prompt
For troubleshooting and advanced startup options for Windows 2000
Only runs in (DOS) C: prompt!

if you do not press F8, Windows 2000 will End (DOS) C: prompt and Boot!
It this way for all Windows NT's.

You do not know Windows!

 

[Sid Elbow]

For Windows 2000 all ways Start in (DOS) C: prompt
For troubleshooting and advanced startup options for Windows 2000
Only runs in (DOS) C: prompt!

if you do not press F8, Windows 2000 will End (DOS) C: prompt and Boot!
It this way for all Windows NT's.

OMG, you think that it's in DOS when it gives that screen??? Why, just
because it's a text screen? That's simply the NT boot loader talking to
you, nothing to do with DOS at all.

Same with the multiboot menu - it's the NT boot loader that presents it
not DOS.

- Assuming one of your installations is DOS and you choose the C: option
from the menu, NT loader terminates and hands you off to the DOS boot
routine. At that point, DOS gets loaded (but Win2K is out of the frame
by that time)

-If you choose Win2K, NT loader continues and loads the Win2K kernel
without loading or involving the DOS code.

Of course, if you have only Win2K installed, NT loader simply goes right
ahead and loads the Win2K kernel and the question of DOS doesn't arise.

The NT engine has no native DOS component whatsoever. Even the command
window that you can open under the NT Windows derivatives is simply an
emulation of DOS.

You do not know Windows!

(rotfl) ... well one of us sure doesn't if you think that Win2K (or any
NT based Windows) uses the DOS engine!

 

[Sid Elbow]

Sid Elbow

All the OP needed to do is::
#1>
Boot the computer with a Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows ME bootable
diskette.
At the A:\> prompt type:

sys c: <press enter>
After pressing enter you should receive the "System Transferred" message.
Once this has been completed remove the floppy diskette and reboot the
computer.

#2.
Corrupt boot sector / master boot record
It's possible your computer's hard disk drive may have a corrupt boot
sector or master boot record.

At start of windows 2000
press F8

These can be repaired through the Microsoft Windows Recovery console by
running the fixboot and fixmbr commands.

it will add Windows 98 the the Boot.ini

.... and if that was what the OP was asking, it might be partly a good
answer.

But, in fact, this has nothing at all to do with the OP's question which
was (and I repeat):

"IS THERE ANY WAY TO START WIN2000 FROM THE C: PROMPT"

(Note that he's NOT asking how to get a C: prompt - he already has that,
see below. He's asking how to boot Win2000 from the C: prompt once he
gets there. And he can't, it's not how Win2000 works).


(Once again I repeat), HE ALREADY HAS WIN98 AS A SELECTION IN BOOT.INI.
Read his post (*really* read what it actually says - not just what you
want it to say). Why does he need you to tell him how to add it (again)?
What good does it do in STARTING WIN2000 FROM THE C: PROMPT
anyway?

From the OP's description his installation is working normally. There
is no evidence that he has boot or MBR problems so why do you want to
fix something that isn't broken? Just thrashing around trying something
in desperation?


You seem to be incapable of understanding what the OP is asking for. I
don't know if it's a language problem, a simple lack of knowledge or
whether you are just a troll. In any event I wouldn't let you within a
mile of any of my installations.

The OP has disappeared anyway and I won't waste any more time with you.

 

[MyNews]

... and if that was what the OP was asking, it might be partly a good
answer.

Yes it the right answer
And it need fix!

But, in fact, this has nothing at all to do with the OP's question which
was (and I repeat):

"IS THERE ANY WAY TO START WIN2000 FROM THE C: PROMPT"

No for Windows 98 Command.com is running at that time !
You have to Reboot all way is the right answer!

(Note that he's NOT asking how to get a C: prompt - he already has that,
see below. He's asking how to boot Win2000 from the C: prompt once he gets
there. And he can't, it's not how Win2000 works).

Not right, He Boot to SELECTION
And when be Click Windows 98 it go to C:\ (Windows 98 Command Prompt or C:
PROMPT)
Then he have to Type C:\win
to boot windows and it works

So he needed to know can here

(Once again I repeat), HE ALREADY HAS WIN98 AS A SELECTION IN BOOT.INI.
Read his post (*really* read what it actually says - not just what you
want it to say). Why does he need you to tell him how to add it (again)?
What good does it do in STARTING WIN2000 FROM THE C: PROMPT
anyway?

No good, a You CAN NOT STARTING WIN2000 FROM Windows 98 Command Prompt
Because C: PROMPT is Windows 98 Start, to Run
For Windows 98 HIMEM.SYS, SYS.COM and Command.com are running at this time!
You have to Stop them by Rebooting!
To go back to Selection Boot and pick WINDOWS 2000 from the Menu!

From the OP's description his installation is working normally. There is
no evidence that he has boot or MBR problems so why do you want to fix
something that isn't broken? Just thrashing around trying something in
desperation?

Because it's broken and not working normally.
For going to Windows 98 Command Prompt and trying WIN is not normal!

You seem to be incapable of understanding what the OP is asking for. I
don't know if it's a language problem, a simple lack of knowledge or
whether you are just a troll. In any event I wouldn't let you within a
mile of any of my installations.

You troll all way cry language problem!
And to OP do not now what he is asking for!
And you all do not know the answers!

The OP has disappeared anyway and I won't waste any more time with you.

# One This is a New groups for Windows 2000 < that I do run on two PC with
windows 98!
All Info is good!
If being here is a waste of your time, just unsubscribe to this group you
will not be miss.

 

[MyNews]

OP said::

That's what I thought, but I wanted to know for sure. Since I always
start in Dos, it would be handy to be able to change the OS without a
reboot, but I see thats not possible. This is one of the reasons I
prefer Win98. I still use Dos regularly. The Dos shells in Win2000
are not suitable for some of my apps, and for that matter even in
Win98 they dont always work well.

Now The OP is running in Dos regularly.
And The Dos shells in Windows 2000 are not suitable for some of his apps.

#1 Need to fix BooT
#2 He can go to Windows 98 Command Prompt in win98 by
Click Start
Click Shut Down
Pick Restate in MS-DOS mode
Click OK
My Say D:\WINDOWS
For I have DOS on C:\ <LOOL
I Have Windows 2000 on E:\

For me to get to DOS I Type
D:\WINDOWS>C:
C:\>
C:\>MOUSE

Mouse drive Version 6.30
Copyright © 1990-1994 All Rigth Reserved.

Mouse driver installed: PS/2 Mode
Auxiliary Device Port
Software Multiple for Dynamic Resolution Off

C:\>
C:\>edit
Dam and I have a Mouse in my DOS Editor <Cool

File>Open>Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=60
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINNT

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINNT "Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional"
C:\= "Microsoft Windows 98se SP-1"

File>Close
File>Exit
C:\>
C:\>Win
Back at Windows 98

Note: I said my 98 is D:\WINDOWS
For all Windows Boot from C:\>

For when in C:\> you are running
Command.com
Microsoft ® Windows 98
© Copyright Corp 1981 - 1999.

To put C:\WINNT will not open windows 2000
Bad command or file name

So if I go to E:\>
C:\>E:
E:\>
E:\ CD WINNT
E:\WINNT
E:\WELCOME
This program cannot run in DOS mode.
E:\win
Windows is still running one or more MSDOS-based programs.
You need to exit your program(s) before Windows can be restarted

Note:
Windows 2000 Said that Windows 98 is still running!

E:\WINNT>
E:\WINNT>C:
C:\>
C:\>EXIT
Windows is now restarting.........

 

[Sid Elbow]

No good, a You CAN NOT STARTING WIN2000 FROM Windows 98 Command Prompt

Hallelujah! Finally you answer the only question the guy ever asked and
what I've been trying to get you to understand for this whole thread.
Simple wasn't it? Of course there were two of us that gave that answer a
week ago - before you went off into all that "look how much I know"
stuff that was totally irrelevant to the question.

BTW, it's not the newsgroup that I find a waste of time - I wouldn't
have been around here for 10 years if that were true. It was just you,
in this thread. But you knew that didn't you?

I'll add you to my kill-file. I suggest you do the same for me in
deference to the others here.

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