Star Trek Armada 2

T

TheHolyLancer

Well i got myself a copy f the game, but it does not run under my
machine (xpsp2, geforce 6800GT, A64 2.6Ghz) and i haved tried
compatibility mode for running and setting up, and patching to 1.2 does
not help... the thing launches the video player, black screen,goes to
800x600 and then boom, dead

ne1 wana help?

o and my driver version is 77.77, its old but i'm sure that armada 2 i
older
 
J

Jimmy S.

Hi [email protected],

I think you should still consider updating your 77.77 drivers.

Updating video card drivers can solve most gaming issues. Here's some
simple abc's to always keep in mind. a. Shut off download accelerators,
firewalls and antivirus programs when downloading or installing updates;
b. Check for game patches: www.avault.com/pcrl/patches_list.asp?letter=a
c. Make sure you meet the game's minimum video and system requirements.

Before you update your drivers, I recommend that you update DirectX
from: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx

Here are the steps I recommend you use to update your driver:

1. To identify the make and model of your card, right click your
Desktop, choose Properties / Settings / Advanced / Adapter.

2. Download the latest video driver for your card online, using
http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits/Video.html#drivers
to find the website to download from. I also have advanced
video driver and direct X troubleshooting steps on that page.

3. Save the .exe driver (or extract the zip file) to a folder
in My Documents named after the driver version number.

4. Restart the computer in Safe Mode by pressing the F8 key
about once every second as it's rebooting to pick Safe Mode.

5. Click Start / (settings) Control Panel / System / Hardware
Device Manager / expand +Display Adapters / right click on
the adapter, pick "Uninstall", and click No if asked to reboot.

6. Use Control Panel / Add-Remove programs to uninstall the
previous driver (exe)software which may have been installed.

7. Restart the computer in Safe Mode by pressing the F8 key
about once every second as it's rebooting to pick Safe Mode.

8. If the driver is NOT a (.exe)program file, GO TO step 11.

9. When Windows prompts you to install the video adapter, click
"Cancel" and Double click the driver program to begin installation.
* Even if not prompted, doubleclick the driver and install it.

10. After you reboot, go to Control Panel / Display / Settings and
choose 32 bit Color Quality, and 800x600 or higher Resolution.
That's it! Scroll down to the Troubleshooter if you have problems.

11. When Windows prompts you to install the video adapter, click
"Install from a list or specific location", click the "Browse" button,
browse to the My documents folder where you saved the driver,
and finally click on one of the driver files to begin installation.

** If you are not prompted, or if the driver was updated automatically:
Click Start / (settings) Control Panel / System / Hardware Device Manager
expand +Display Adapters / right click on the adapter, pick "Update Driver"
to start the Update Wizard, choose the "Install from a list..." option:
Browse to My Documents\ folder with the driver in it
Click OK and click Next to begin the update.

12. After you reboot, go to Control Panel / Display / Settings and
choose 32 bit Color Quality, and 800x600 or higher Resolution.
That's it! Try the advice in the Troubleshooter if you have problems.

TROUBLESHOOTING:

Test your drivers using DXDiag: Click Start / Run / type: DXDIAG
Click the "Test" buttons in the Display, Sound, Music & Network Tabs;
If any of the Display options are Disabled and you cannot Enable them,
your most likely solution would be to update your Chipset Drivers as per
my website: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits/Video.html#v11

Your program might not support dual monitors, or "dual head" video cards
You can disable the extra video output in your display properties control
panel. Click Start>Settings>Control Panel>Display>Settings>Advanced.

Along with your Video card, Sound Cards, Motherboard Chipsets,
and Video Monitors may also require updated drivers. Even your
motherboard's BIOS may need to be updated for compatibility with
your Video card. These steps are listed at: http://NibblesNbitsVideo.tk

Perhaps the old Video drivers did not completely uninstall. If that's the
case, use these utility to completely uninstall the drivers and go to step
7:
nvidia: http://content.guru3d.com/index.php?page=detonatorrip&menu=0
or for all cards including nvidia use: http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/

The latest video drivers sometime don't work with a particular game.
(Check the Video suggestions in the readme.txt file in your game folder/CD)
If there's no suggestions, try an older (WHQL) driver, and/or if you still
experience problems try a Beta driver, or even an Omega driver instead:

BETA Drivers: http://download.guru3d.com/
OMEGA Drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net

There you have it, if you have any questions feel free to post them! :)

Cheers, Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________



[email protected] Wrote:
=================
| Well i got myself a copy f the game, but it does not run under my
| machine (xpsp2, geforce 6800GT, A64 2.6Ghz) and i haved tried
| compatibility mode for running and setting up, and patching to 1.2 does
| not help... the thing launches the video player, black screen,goes to
| 800x600 and then boom, dead
|
| ne1 wana help?
|
| o and my driver version is 77.77, its old but i'm sure that armada 2 i
| older
 
T

TheHolyLancer

errr i think i read some where that nvidia fixed some bugs for this
game (not specifically) with drivers like from 47.** issue, i got
77.77, a lot newer so that shouldn't be a problem, dxdiag comes up
good, nothing dead, game is patched to latest (damned activision stop
making ST games awhile back...) DX is DX9.0c, the driver verison is
indeed WHQL cirtified.

This is very weird, and most likely a windows compatibility issue, as
that i could play Star Trek Starfleet Command II fine (from around the
same time) and it too in the offcial website did not say XP support,
only 2000 support (98/ME too for that matter but as you know the
different kernal makes them incompatibile) which is the same with
Armada II

this is really frustrating, i can play Half Life 2, Obvilion, Counter
Strike:Source, etc. very well, but when it comes to an older game like
this one, i can't do a nut at all, i hope to god that when vista comes
out that it will have FULL support of older OSes (maybe it will have a
"WVM" installed, where if needed, it will emulate windows 95 even or
heck, true DOS for stuff like the first elders scroll game...
 
J

Jimmy S.

Hi [email protected],

Since you mentioned WVM, you may find this interesting ...

When a game is a DOS game, it could work using compatibility mode:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=292533 or by using the Multiboot
bootdisk from: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~lpcd/downloads.html
and always check at fileplanet.com to see if there's a patch available.

With DOSBOX you can emulate a DOS computer on your XP desktop:
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/information.php Or try MS Virtual PC:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/virtualpc/downloads/trial.asp
which allows you to install DOS or to run any operating system inside XP.

If you prefer to explore other advanced methods, here are two excellent
tutorials I've found on the subject: http://www.dosgames.com/faq.php and
http://home.earthlink.net/~angeldancer27/XpGameList.htm For sound
issues use: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vdmsound Good Luck! :)


--
Cheers, *Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User*
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Games and Windows Gaming Help Site: www.msce.mvps.org
MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________



[email protected] Wrote:
=================
| errr i think i read some where that nvidia fixed some bugs for this
| game (not specifically) with drivers like from 47.** issue, i got
| 77.77, a lot newer so that shouldn't be a problem, dxdiag comes up
| good, nothing dead, game is patched to latest (damned activision stop
| making ST games awhile back...) DX is DX9.0c, the driver verison is
| indeed WHQL cirtified.
|
| This is very weird, and most likely a windows compatibility issue, as
| that i could play Star Trek Starfleet Command II fine (from around the
| same time) and it too in the offcial website did not say XP support,
| only 2000 support (98/ME too for that matter but as you know the
| different kernal makes them incompatibile) which is the same with
| Armada II
|
| this is really frustrating, i can play Half Life 2, Obvilion, Counter
| Strike:Source, etc. very well, but when it comes to an older game like
| this one, i can't do a nut at all, i hope to god that when vista comes
| out that it will have FULL support of older OSes (maybe it will have a
| "WVM" installed, where if needed, it will emulate windows 95 even or
| heck, true DOS for stuff like the first elders scroll game...
|
| Jimmy S. wrote:
|| Hi [email protected],
||
|| I think you should still consider updating your 77.77 drivers.
||
|| Updating video card drivers can solve most gaming issues. Here's some
|| simple abc's to always keep in mind. a. Shut off download accelerators,
|| firewalls and antivirus programs when downloading or installing updates;
|| b. Check for game patches: www.avault.com/pcrl/patches_list.asp?letter=a
|| c. Make sure you meet the game's minimum video and system requirements.
||
|| Before you update your drivers, I recommend that you update DirectX
|| from: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx
||
|| Here are the steps I recommend you use to update your driver:
||
|| 1. To identify the make and model of your card, right click your
|| Desktop, choose Properties / Settings / Advanced / Adapter.
||
|| 2. Download the latest video driver for your card online, using
|| http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits/Video.html#drivers
|| to find the website to download from. I also have advanced
|| video driver and direct X troubleshooting steps on that page.
||
|| 3. Save the .exe driver (or extract the zip file) to a folder
|| in My Documents named after the driver version number.
||
|| 4. Restart the computer in Safe Mode by pressing the F8 key
|| about once every second as it's rebooting to pick Safe Mode.
||
|| 5. Click Start / (settings) Control Panel / System / Hardware
|| Device Manager / expand +Display Adapters / right click on
|| the adapter, pick "Uninstall", and click No if asked to reboot.
||
|| 6. Use Control Panel / Add-Remove programs to uninstall the
|| previous driver (exe)software which may have been installed.
||
|| 7. Restart the computer in Safe Mode by pressing the F8 key
|| about once every second as it's rebooting to pick Safe Mode.
||
|| 8. If the driver is NOT a (.exe)program file, GO TO step 11.
||
|| 9. When Windows prompts you to install the video adapter, click
|| "Cancel" and Double click the driver program to begin installation.
|| * Even if not prompted, doubleclick the driver and install it.
||
|| 10. After you reboot, go to Control Panel / Display / Settings and
|| choose 32 bit Color Quality, and 800x600 or higher Resolution.
|| That's it! Scroll down to the Troubleshooter if you have problems.
||
|| 11. When Windows prompts you to install the video adapter, click
|| "Install from a list or specific location", click the "Browse" button,
|| browse to the My documents folder where you saved the driver,
|| and finally click on one of the driver files to begin installation.
||
|| ** If you are not prompted, or if the driver was updated automatically:
|| Click Start / (settings) Control Panel / System / Hardware Device Manager
|| expand +Display Adapters / right click on the adapter, pick "Update Driver"
|| to start the Update Wizard, choose the "Install from a list..." option:
|| Browse to My Documents\ folder with the driver in it
|| Click OK and click Next to begin the update.
||
|| 12. After you reboot, go to Control Panel / Display / Settings and
|| choose 32 bit Color Quality, and 800x600 or higher Resolution.
|| That's it! Try the advice in the Troubleshooter if you have problems.
||
|| TROUBLESHOOTING:
||
|| Test your drivers using DXDiag: Click Start / Run / type: DXDIAG
|| Click the "Test" buttons in the Display, Sound, Music & Network Tabs;
|| If any of the Display options are Disabled and you cannot Enable them,
|| your most likely solution would be to update your Chipset Drivers as per
|| my website: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits/Video.html#v11
||
|| Your program might not support dual monitors, or "dual head" video cards
|| You can disable the extra video output in your display properties control
|| panel. Click Start>Settings>Control Panel>Display>Settings>Advanced.
||
|| Along with your Video card, Sound Cards, Motherboard Chipsets,
|| and Video Monitors may also require updated drivers. Even your
|| motherboard's BIOS may need to be updated for compatibility with
|| your Video card. These steps are listed at: http://NibblesNbitsVideo.tk
||
|| Perhaps the old Video drivers did not completely uninstall. If that's the
|| case, use these utility to completely uninstall the drivers and go to step
|| 7:
|| nvidia: http://content.guru3d.com/index.php?page=detonatorrip&menu=0
|| or for all cards including nvidia use: http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/
||
|| The latest video drivers sometime don't work with a particular game.
|| (Check the Video suggestions in the readme.txt file in your game folder/CD)
|| If there's no suggestions, try an older (WHQL) driver, and/or if you still
|| experience problems try a Beta driver, or even an Omega driver instead:
||
|| BETA Drivers: http://download.guru3d.com/
|| OMEGA Drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
||
|| There you have it, if you have any questions feel free to post them! :)
||
|| Cheers, Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User
|| Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
||
|| Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
|| MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
|| My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
|| _________________________________________________________
||
||
||
|| [email protected] Wrote:
|| =================
||| Well i got myself a copy f the game, but it does not run under my
||| machine (xpsp2, geforce 6800GT, A64 2.6Ghz) and i haved tried
||| compatibility mode for running and setting up, and patching to 1.2 does
||| not help... the thing launches the video player, black screen,goes to
||| 800x600 and then boom, dead
|||
||| ne1 wana help?
|||
||| o and my driver version is 77.77, its old but i'm sure that armada 2 i
||| older
 
T

TheHolyLancer

eerr this game isn't a dos though, it is a little more newer than that,
the minimun requirement states Windows(r) 95/98/2000/ME operating
system with DX 8.0a


o and ty for the read
 
J

Jimmy S.

(e-mail address removed) Wrote:
=================
| eerr this game isn't a dos though, it is a little more newer than that,
| the minimun requirement states Windows(r) 95/98/2000/ME operating
| system with DX 8.0a | o and ty for the read

errr I was responding to your comments about Vista :)

i hope to god that when vista comes
|| out that it will have FULL support of older OSes (maybe it will have a
|| "WVM" installed, where if needed, it will emulate windows 95 even or
|| heck, true DOS for stuff like the first elders scroll game...
 
T

TheHolyLancer

Jimmy said:
(e-mail address removed) Wrote:
=================
| eerr this game isn't a dos though, it is a little more newer than that,
| the minimun requirement states Windows(r) 95/98/2000/ME operating
| system with DX 8.0a | o and ty for the read

errr I was responding to your comments about Vista :)

i hope to god that when vista comes
|| out that it will have FULL support of older OSes (maybe it will have a
|| "WVM" installed, where if needed, it will emulate windows 95 even or
|| heck, true DOS for stuff like the first elders scroll game...


well dosbos is there, but it is not trouble free :) now for someone
like me who just want to enjoy the older times w/o have to read through
all that (actually i kinda enjoyed reading through all that but i could
have done without it) an one or two click solution seems to be good,
like in the left click menu, i can say emulate the software's optimium
running enviroment, and i should be able add stuff to it to include
stuff like linux or java
 
J

Jimmy S.

Hi (e-mail address removed),

If you want to discuss trouble free solutions, DOS Box is
far more trouble free than that other OS you refered to. :)

--
Cheers, *Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User*
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Games and Windows Gaming Help Site: www.msce.mvps.org
MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

(e-mail address removed) Wrote:
=================
| Jimmy S. wrote:
|| (e-mail address removed) Wrote:
|| =================
||| eerr this game isn't a dos though, it is a little more newer than that,
||| the minimun requirement states Windows(r) 95/98/2000/ME operating
||| system with DX 8.0a | o and ty for the read
||
|| errr I was responding to your comments about Vista :)
||
|| i hope to god that when vista comes
|||| out that it will have FULL support of older OSes (maybe it will have a
|||| "WVM" installed, where if needed, it will emulate windows 95 even or
|||| heck, true DOS for stuff like the first elders scroll game...
|
|
| well dosbos is there, but it is not trouble free :) now for someone
| like me who just want to enjoy the older times w/o have to read through
| all that (actually i kinda enjoyed reading through all that but i could
| have done without it) an one or two click solution seems to be good,
| like in the left click menu, i can say emulate the software's optimium
| running enviroment, and i should be able add stuff to it to include
| stuff like linux or java
 
J

Jimmy S.

| Hi (e-mail address removed),
|
| If you want to discuss trouble free solutions, DOS Box is
| far *less* trouble free than that other OS you refered to. :)
|
|
| (e-mail address removed) Wrote:
| =================
|| Jimmy S. wrote:
||| (e-mail address removed) Wrote:
||| =================
|||| eerr this game isn't a dos though, it is a little more newer than that,
|||| the minimun requirement states Windows(r) 95/98/2000/ME operating
|||| system with DX 8.0a | o and ty for the read
|||
||| errr I was responding to your comments about Vista :)
|||
||| i hope to god that when vista comes
||||| out that it will have FULL support of older OSes (maybe it will have a
||||| "WVM" installed, where if needed, it will emulate windows 95 even or
||||| heck, true DOS for stuff like the first elders scroll game...
||
||
|| well dosbos is there, but it is not trouble free :) now for someone
|| like me who just want to enjoy the older times w/o have to read through
|| all that (actually i kinda enjoyed reading through all that but i could
|| have done without it) an one or two click solution seems to be good,
|| like in the left click menu, i can say emulate the software's optimium
|| running enviroment, and i should be able add stuff to it to include
|| stuff like linux or java
 

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