L
Leo
Please post proof that over 94% of all statistics are lies.
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LEO
Philosophy is very meaningful until you have to pay the rent.
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LEO
Philosophy is very meaningful until you have to pay the rent.
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Testy
Have you never read a political poll?
It of course was a jest. or does a sense of humor escape you?
testy
It of course was a jest. or does a sense of humor escape you?
testy
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
That is not a very scientific poll.
However if you look at the "Small Problems" group, most are not really
problems.
They are part of the learning curve users must follow to use their
computer.
Furthermore many SP-2 issues in all categories are reduced with proper
preparation.
However if you look at the "Small Problems" group, most are not really
problems.
They are part of the learning curve users must follow to use their
computer.
Furthermore many SP-2 issues in all categories are reduced with proper
preparation.
S
Sandman
They are part of the learning curve users must follow to use their
computer.
REALLY?..... Re-installing a bunch of drivers for video cards and other
hardware that used to work, prior to SP2, is hardly a 'learning
curve'........With Windows 98 it WAS a learning curve and all that was
solved in XP......... UNTIL SP2 was foisted on the public... XP was by far
the best OS Microsoft has developed until all the trojans, hackers ad
infinitum got a hold of it...Not blaming Microsoft for them, but this beta
patch SP2, now that's another story...
computer.
REALLY?..... Re-installing a bunch of drivers for video cards and other
hardware that used to work, prior to SP2, is hardly a 'learning
curve'........With Windows 98 it WAS a learning curve and all that was
solved in XP......... UNTIL SP2 was foisted on the public... XP was by far
the best OS Microsoft has developed until all the trojans, hackers ad
infinitum got a hold of it...Not blaming Microsoft for them, but this beta
patch SP2, now that's another story...
M
Max Burke
Charlie scribbled:
That a 'self selecting' survey (the respondents have to volunteer their
participation) and are generally discounted as being wildly in-accurate
because of the obvious bias....
Any real survey is anonymous, random, and governed by peer reviewed
statistical testing to prove the accuracy of the results.
IOW I believe the Sans.org results are just as accurate as the claims that
100 million XP SP2 downloads have been done because someone read it a news
group, on a web site, or heard it from a friend of a friend who knows
someone who knows.....
From one of the 45%'ers who had no problems udating to SP2 immediately after
upgrading to XP Pro. (from XP Home)
Want to have a probelm free XP SP2 install? Do homework BEFORE installing XP
SP2.
"The simplest explanation for statistics is most often the *correct one*"
Not quite a drop
Rating Summary
--no opinion-- 3%
no problems 45%
small problems 26%
big problems, but solvable 8%
big problems, could not use/install 9%
had to rebuild system 9%
That makes 52% with some sort of problem.
Source: http://isc.sans.org/xpsp2.php
That a 'self selecting' survey (the respondents have to volunteer their
participation) and are generally discounted as being wildly in-accurate
because of the obvious bias....
Any real survey is anonymous, random, and governed by peer reviewed
statistical testing to prove the accuracy of the results.
IOW I believe the Sans.org results are just as accurate as the claims that
100 million XP SP2 downloads have been done because someone read it a news
group, on a web site, or heard it from a friend of a friend who knows
someone who knows.....
From one of the 45%'ers who had no problems udating to SP2 immediately after
upgrading to XP Pro. (from XP Home)
Want to have a probelm free XP SP2 install? Do homework BEFORE installing XP
SP2.
"The simplest explanation for statistics is most often the *correct one*"
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
If there are newer drivers already available from the manufacturer,
that is a big hint of something to look at.
Since you are suggesting the drivers were already available that also
suggests the hardware manufacturers already thought there was the need
since the hardware manufacturers and not Microsoft are responsible for
the drivers.
SP-2 is not "foisted on the public".
It is extremely easy not to get SP-2 as well as any other update.
If anyone had SP-2 "foisted" on them, that just shows they may need to
learn a little more about the computer they use.
That is part of an older learning curve all users should have learned
long ago.
SP-2 installed fine on computers I installed SP-2.
But then the latest drivers were already installed, partially in
preparation of SP-2.
That is also part of an older learning curve.
So to answer your question...Yes, Really.
that is a big hint of something to look at.
Since you are suggesting the drivers were already available that also
suggests the hardware manufacturers already thought there was the need
since the hardware manufacturers and not Microsoft are responsible for
the drivers.
SP-2 is not "foisted on the public".
It is extremely easy not to get SP-2 as well as any other update.
If anyone had SP-2 "foisted" on them, that just shows they may need to
learn a little more about the computer they use.
That is part of an older learning curve all users should have learned
long ago.
SP-2 installed fine on computers I installed SP-2.
But then the latest drivers were already installed, partially in
preparation of SP-2.
That is also part of an older learning curve.
So to answer your question...Yes, Really.
M
MVP
I am an MVP there has been 102,497,540 downloads,ah wait
102,497,982 downloads,ah wait there is 102,498,245
downloads,and im an MVP,now you boys kiss and make up.
102,497,982 downloads,ah wait there is 102,498,245
downloads,and im an MVP,now you boys kiss and make up.
B
Bob
Yes the little guys helping each other out,because the
machine(microsoft)will charge you!For their blunder,you
get a broken computer,oh keep the auto update on!Little
guys like me who now revert back to the ol 98 SE that was
stored in the basement.Now I need help with it,because of
SP2,how many can come to the hospital(newsgroups)because
all they have is one computer.There are a lot more than
100 million downloads and a lot more of them that do not
have the ability to get on line to voice their disgust.I
believe the 50% have trouble I believe100 million
downloads,that means to me 50 million with problems,of
then I would bet a paycheck,20 million can't even get
passed the corrupt or missing file error to log on,most
of them will resort to a complete restore and after being
unable to fix it with repair,and you'll never see them
here because they don't even now what happened.(two
working Joes at the job site hay Joe musta got a virus
last week,had to restore my computer,ya man me too must
have been a bad virus the kids got me,well thank God for
the disc,run that sucker and now it's like new.While moms
cring because she didn't have time to back up the
birthday pictures)Thank you all very much,we do valu
everything we learn here.I've learned to shut off my auto
update feature.Do we not pay our gas and electric bills
to fix the computer?Kids we don't eat for two months were
fixing the computer!How many computer shops on the
corner,of USA and Main are overwhelmed?Lets here from
them.
machine(microsoft)will charge you!For their blunder,you
get a broken computer,oh keep the auto update on!Little
guys like me who now revert back to the ol 98 SE that was
stored in the basement.Now I need help with it,because of
SP2,how many can come to the hospital(newsgroups)because
all they have is one computer.There are a lot more than
100 million downloads and a lot more of them that do not
have the ability to get on line to voice their disgust.I
believe the 50% have trouble I believe100 million
downloads,that means to me 50 million with problems,of
then I would bet a paycheck,20 million can't even get
passed the corrupt or missing file error to log on,most
of them will resort to a complete restore and after being
unable to fix it with repair,and you'll never see them
here because they don't even now what happened.(two
working Joes at the job site hay Joe musta got a virus
last week,had to restore my computer,ya man me too must
have been a bad virus the kids got me,well thank God for
the disc,run that sucker and now it's like new.While moms
cring because she didn't have time to back up the
birthday pictures)Thank you all very much,we do valu
everything we learn here.I've learned to shut off my auto
update feature.Do we not pay our gas and electric bills
to fix the computer?Kids we don't eat for two months were
fixing the computer!How many computer shops on the
corner,of USA and Main are overwhelmed?Lets here from
them.
P
Peter
MS don't charge anything for fixing SP2 issues and if you would just try
doing a Google search (if you know how) you would know that we don't waste
our time with idle gossip.
Besides these groups are for peer help not stupid petty and, if I may say,
ignorant arguments.
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Peter.
Toronto, Canada.
Windows XP Home SP2.
Pentium4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1gb DDR.
doing a Google search (if you know how) you would know that we don't waste
our time with idle gossip.
Besides these groups are for peer help not stupid petty and, if I may say,
ignorant arguments.
--
Peter.
Toronto, Canada.
Windows XP Home SP2.
Pentium4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1gb DDR.
Bob said:
G
Guest
Besides these groups are for peer help not stupid petty
and, if I may say,
ignorant arguments. YOUR WORDS
and, if I may say,
ignorant arguments. YOUR WORDS
G
Guest
Over and out...no more answers to idiotic comments.
P
Peter
As I said, we are here to help. Unfortunately none of us are psychiatrists.
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guzarva
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Jupiter Jones said:
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guzarva
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