SP2: any problems?

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Check in 'microsoft.public.windowsxp.general' for advice on how to tweak the
new settings within XP to have it work how you want rather than remove it as
BP says. Everyone will have to have SP2 going forward to get new updates at
least so you may as well get familiar with how to make it work FOR you
rather than against you. Only reason I can think of for going back to
pre-SP2 is if it affects something on your PC and makes it unstable and I
would only go back temporarily until the maker of the conflicting software
brought out a patch. Shaun.
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What do you do when SP2 conflicts with Windows XP . . .wait for
P3??? -Dave
 
ToolPackinMama said:
I just installed sp2 last night, and I've noticed some peculiar behavior
from that machine since. What used to take between 15 to 30 seconds to
boot fully, now takes nearly a minute or minute and a hlaf. Once I'm
totally booted, I noticed that my Bulldog Plus software for my UPS
hasn't been able to retriieve data properly.
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The default activation of the Windows Firewall is a "feature" of SP2. You can
turn it off, or allow Zone Alarm to turn it off when you install it.

SP2 crashed my RAID controller, so I had to reload my machine from scratch... I
loaded SP2 before anything else, and the machine is working fine.

I had problems with the Bulldog software even with SP1. I decided not to reload
it at all. XP detects the UPS as a "HID" (Human Interface Device) and as a
battery. The power settings tab in XP should be sufficient to control the
machine when the UPS cuts in. I have not missed the Bulldog software.
 
Ron said:
There's no need to uninstall SP2. Renaming update.sys fixes SP2.
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Well, I was replying to the question of how to get it off, not how to leave
it on, but I agree in so far as one ends up with a SP2 that doesn't do
microcode updates.

I wouldn't consider it really 'fixed' till that issue was addressed, though.
 
Dave C. said:
What do you do when SP2 conflicts with Windows XP . . .wait for
P3??? -Dave
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Dave, AFAIK SP2 does not conflict with XP (it is XP) - but does conflict
with some other software packages. Let me know if different (with your
source of course). Thanks, Shaun.
 
Shawk said:
Dave, AFAIK SP2 does not conflict with XP (it is XP) - but does conflict
with some other software packages. Let me know if different (with your
source of course). Thanks, Shaun.
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(BTW - yesterday I went a did that other current big no-no. I installed
WMP10 against the advice of all those that said my XP pc would burn in hell.
Have to state for the record that this works fine too. Must be doing
something wrong eh?)
 
<<Subject: sp2 probs
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 23:56:41 -0500
From: "Jason" <[email protected]>
Organization: netINS InterNetNews site
Newsgroups: alt.os.windows-xp

I just installed sp2 last night, and I've noticed some peculiar behavior
from that machine since. What used to take between 15 to 30 seconds to
boot fully, now takes nearly a minute or minute and a hlaf. Once I'm
totally booted, I noticed that my Bulldog Plus software for my UPS
hasn't been able to retriieve data properly. There's also a new icon in
the systray called windows security alerts, and clicking on it brings up
something called windows security center that lists such things as the
windows firewall and so on. Now, the windows firewall had been disabled
by HP when I bought this machine since norton pf had been preinstalled
at the HP factory. So I got suspicious, and I went into the control
panel to do some poking around, and what do I find but new items in
there too, the most irksome being an icon for the windows firewall that
had never existed before. I clicked on it, and surprise surprise, I'm
promptly told that the windows firewall is now active, so there was a
radio button to turn it off, so I did. When I rebooot though, this
windows security center deal is still in the systray, and my UPS still
can't connect and send it's stats to my xp machine. How do I turn this
new crap off, so I can have my pc booting like it used to and retreiving
info from my ups again? >>
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I don't know anything about Bulldog but my CyberPower software runs just fine
with SP2. I thought I may have problems with some software, especially on the
computer that has the CyberPower since it also has a plethora of various media
and video editing software, including a Leadtek Winfast PVR and the new WMP 10
as well as some Creative software for my new MuVo TX but not one program has
failed to function in three weeks.

While I do think it is a worthwhile upgrade, especially for the casual
web-surfer, I don't agree with some who have likened it to a "XP SE". I
certainly would not have paid MS "OS prices" for this upgrade since there are
very few features that I consider to be worthy of any type of monetary reward
but merely security features that I would expect MS to provide.

Ed
 
There's no need to uninstall SP2. Renaming update.sys fixes SP2.
Well, I was replying to the question of how to get it off, not how to leave
it on, but I agree in so far as one ends up with a SP2 that doesn't do
microcode updates.

I wouldn't consider it really 'fixed' till that issue was addressed,
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though.

Neither would I. That's why I don't think SP2 is ready for public release
yet. -Dave
 
Dave said:
though.

Neither would I. That's why I don't think SP2 is ready for public release
yet. -Dave
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One could just as easily say that BIOSs not supporting the Prescott
microcode weren't ready for public release.
 
Dave said:
Is microsoft a good enough source for ya? :) -Dave

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555185&Product=winxp
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Nothing in that article says SP2 'conflicts with XP'. It says an XP system
updated with SP2 may hang during boot and that "This is caused by incorrect
microcoding of the BIOS." That's a conflict with the BIOS.

Do you moonlight as a politician? Because you're using the same kind of
illogical word twisting so many of them seem to specialize in.
 
Nothing in that article says SP2 'conflicts with XP'. It says an XP system
updated with SP2 may hang during boot and that "This is caused by incorrect
microcoding of the BIOS." That's a conflict with the BIOS.

Do you moonlight as a politician? Because you're using the same kind of
illogical word twisting so many of them seem to specialize in.
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OK, let me be more logical. For many of the affected systems, there is no
hardware or firmware solution. Thus, if you install SP2, Windows will not
boot. How can anyone then claim with a straight face that SP2 does not
conflict with Windows XP? Seems pretty clear to me. -Dave
 
Shawk said:
Hi Dave, microcoding in BIOS? I'm aware of this but you asked what do you
do when SP2 conflicts with XP. This has nought to do with SP2 conflicting
with XP does it? Shout if you meant something else or I've misunderstood,
cheers, Shaun. :-)
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No, he's just establishing a trolling personage.
 
One could just as easily say that BIOSs not supporting the Prescott
microcode weren't ready for public release.
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True!!! But two wrongs don't make a right. It seems irresponsible to
release software that will cause windows not to boot and then say "Oh, well,
you need to talk to your mainboard manufacturer about that". Imagine if
someone started selling gas that would cause a car engine to melt if it
wasn't running a certain compression ratio. And then imagine the gas
station trying to blame the problem on the car manufacturers. Somehow, I
don't think that would fly. -Dave
 
Dave C. said:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555185&Product=winxp

OK, let me be more logical. For many of the affected systems, there is no
hardware or firmware solution.
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That's utterly FALSE. There's an easy workaround.
Thus, if you install SP2, Windows will not
boot. How can anyone then claim with a straight face that SP2 does not
conflict with Windows XP? Seems pretty clear to me. -Dave
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There's an easy workaround. Re-enter you position under bridge.
 
Dave C. said:
True!!! But two wrongs don't make a right. It seems irresponsible to
release software that will cause windows not to boot and then say "Oh, well,
you need to talk to your mainboard manufacturer about that". Imagine if
someone started selling gas that would cause a car engine to melt
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No damage is done. Get back under the bridge.
 
Dave C. said:
OK, let me be more logical. For many of the affected systems, there is no
hardware or firmware solution. Thus, if you install SP2, Windows will not
boot. How can anyone then claim with a straight face that SP2 does not
conflict with Windows XP? Seems pretty clear to me. -Dave
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I agree.
 
Ron said:
That's utterly FALSE. There's an easy workaround.
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Define "easy", especially if you can't boot.
There's an easy workaround. Re-enter you position under bridge.
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IMHO dismissing someone as a troll is too casually invoked.
 
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