Slow Mouse Response

[CK]

Given that you've mentioned elsewhere in this thread that you're pretty

But he said that there is no problem when he uses the KB. It's on;y
when he uses the mouse that he has a problem.

True, which is why I thought that it might be having problems drawing
stuff. It's not like it hurts to turn off the eye candy to see if helps,
is it?

I would get a Microsoft Intellimouse (Directron $3) and install the MS
Intellimouse driver. If the problem persists, take it back and get a
full refund. Then buy a decent computer - one that works.

Helpful.

CK

 

[kony]

I still don't understand. If he has no performance delay when he uses
the KB, but does when he uses the mouse, would that not mean there is
something happening with the mouse driver and not the system itself?

Not necessarily because he had already clicked. At that
point the driver should not be needed. Again, I DID suggest
Safe Mode. Consider the relevance of Safe Mode.

If it were something in the system itself (other than the mouse
driver), then he would not see immediate execution when he used the
KB.

Or maybe I am missing something.

What you are suggesting makes sense, up until he had clicked
and it still wasn't loading. He could of course uninstall
any mouse drivers and so forth but easier to just follow a
list of items as I'd previously made.

 

[Bob]

OK: I did boot up in safe mode and did NOT have the delay when using the
mouse. What does that tell us? Also, I previously tried another mouse that
had a USB connection instead of the plug in that came with the computer. I
would assume that other mouse would use other drivers. Still had the same
problem with either mouse regardless of connection type. Now I'm back to
10 seconds when I click on the show desktop icon (as an example), and it is
still instantaneous when I use the Windows-D key. Using the mouse in safe
mode was also instantaneous.

Bob

 

[kony]

OK: I did boot up in safe mode and did NOT have the delay when using the
mouse. What does that tell us?

That it's isolated to a driver or software loaded at
(normal) boot.

Also, I previously tried another mouse that
had a USB connection instead of the plug in that came with the computer. I
would assume that other mouse would use other drivers.

Not necessarily, as the PS/2 and USB drivers are integral to
windows to an extent, when one speaks of modern mouse
drivers they're generally talking about an added
functionality driver in addition to that. This would be a
separate driver, most often shown in add/remove programs.

When you load the mouse configuration from Control Panel, is
it the generic Windows or a branded interface, such as
Microsoft (Intellipoint) or Logitech, or other? If such a
3rd party driver is present, try uninstalling it. If it is
only the generic WinXP mouse control, look at other software
installed.

Still had the same
problem with either mouse regardless of connection type. Now I'm back to
10 seconds when I click on the show desktop icon (as an example), and it is
still instantaneous when I use the Windows-D key. Using the mouse in safe
mode was also instantaneous.

Do you have a keyboard "hotkeys" type driver running that
detects special-function keys on the keyboard (typically
along the top of it)? If so, try uninstallating that as
well, providing you have the driver installation files
available should you choose to reinstall it- same goes for
the aforementioned mouse driver or any other software- OEMs
can vary in how they distribute the software so you will
have to determine if you can later undo/redo whatever you
change in attempts to resolve this.

Previously I'd mentioned "HijackThis". You might run it,
have it scan and make a log. Then review that log and
determine the origins of the things loading, scrutinize them
to determine if anything is a potential problem.

 

[Bob]

When you load the mouse configuration from Control Panel, is
it the generic Windows or a branded interface, such as
Microsoft (Intellipoint) or Logitech, or other? If such a
3rd party driver is present, try uninstalling it. If it is
only the generic WinXP mouse control, look at other software
installed.

It seems to be generic XP; I uninstalled and Windows automatically
reinstalled it (actually there are two listed):
i8042prt.sys and mouclass.sys, both in Windows System32 directory.

Do you have a keyboard "hotkeys" type driver running that
detects special-function keys on the keyboard (typically
along the top of it)? If so, try uninstallating that as
well,

Yes, I do. Most of them are configured with defaults that came with the
computer and I don't use them. The only
ones I changed are one to open IE and one to open Outlook Express. I did
this because the hotkeys work a lot faster
than using the mouse to open these applications.

Previously I'd mentioned "HijackThis". You might run it,
have it scan and make a log. Then review that log and
determine the origins of the things loading, scrutinize them
to determine if anything is a potential problem.

Well I did that and got a nice log that is not terribly revealing to mere
mortals. Indeed, Hijack This suggests that the
log be reviewed by "knowledgable folks". I include the log here hoping that
one of such folks will see something
significant!

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 7:40:43 AM, on 8/8/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\AGRSMMSG.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\ALCWZRD.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\ALCMTR.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe
C:\Program Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe
C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust EZ Armor\eTrust EZ Antivirus\isafe.exe
c:\Program Files\Common Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\CA\ETRUST~1\ETRUST~1\VetMsg.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\MsPMSPSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Bob Oaks' Documents\HiJackThis\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http://red.clientapps.yahoo.com/cus.../*http://www.yahoo.com/ext/search/search.html
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
http://ie.redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TYPE=3&tp=iehome&locale=EN_US&c=Q105&bd=pavilion&pf=desktop
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Companion BHO - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} -
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_5_7_0.dll
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: HP view - {B2847E28-5D7D-4DEB-8B67-05D28BCF79F5} - c:\Program
Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\HPDTLK02.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Yahoo! Companion - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} -
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_5_7_0.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program
files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PS2] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ps2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Recguard] C:\WINDOWS\SMINST\RECGUARD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KBD] C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AGRSMMSG] AGRSMMSG.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] SOUNDMAN.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AlcWzrd] ALCWZRD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [edcfmtv9] C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PlaxoUpdate] C:\Program
Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe -a
O4 - Startup: Mozilla Firefox.lnk = C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox\firefox.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk = C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmwordtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Yahoo! Search - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsrch.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
res://C:\PROGRA~1\MI1933~1\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Dictionary - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Maps - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} -
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console -
{08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} -
C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger -
{4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
O9 - Extra button: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - C:\Program
Files\AIM\aim.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} -
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger -
{FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program
Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {0246ECA8-996F-11D1-BE2F-00A0C9037DFE} (TDServer Control) -
http://www.rcrusoe.com/wfplayer/tdserver.cab
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage
Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=39204&clcid=0x409
O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} -
http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwebproducts/ei-2/SmileyCentralFWBInitialSetup1.0.0.8-2.cab
O16 - DPF: {1F2F4C9E-6F09-47BC-970D-3C54734667FE} (LSSupCtl Class) -
https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/LSSupCtl.cab
O16 - DPF: {49232000-16E4-426C-A231-62846947304B} -
http://ipgweb.cce.hp.com/rdqna/downloads/sysinfo.cab
O16 - DPF: {9B17FE0E-51F2-4692-8B32-8EFB805FC0E7} (HPObjectInstaller
Class) - http://h30155.www3.hp.com/ediags/gs/install/guidedsolutions.cab
O16 - DPF: {AB86CE53-AC9F-449F-9399-D8ABCA09EC09} (Get_ActiveX Control) -
https://h17000.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Secure/HPGetDownloadManager.ocx
O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) -
https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/SymAData.cab
O16 - DPF: {E93A6FCA-C052-45DF-AC9B-B729066092F8} (Util Class) -
https://isupport4.hp.com/motivedocs/linklauncher/MotUtil.cab
O16 - DPF: {EB387D2F-E27B-4D36-979E-847D1036C65D} (QDiagHUpdateObj Class) -
http://h30043.www3.hp.com/aio/en/check/qdiagh.cab?326
O16 - DPF: {FF1CD9A3-00CD-45C1-8182-4EEC229A182D} (Plaxo Auto-Import
Utility) - https://www.plaxo.com/activex/plx_upldr-2k-xp.cab
O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
O23 - Service: CA ISafe (CAISafe) - Computer Associates International,
Inc. - C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust EZ Armor\eTrust EZ Antivirus\isafe.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service (iPodService) - Apple Computer, Inc. -
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: LightScribeService Direct Disc Labeling Service
(LightScribeService) - Unknown owner - c:\Program Files\Common
Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
O23 - Service: VET Message Service (VETMSGNT) - Computer Associates
International, Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\CA\ETRUST~1\ETRUST~1\VetMsg.exe

 

[Bob]

This would be a
separate driver, most often shown in add/remove programs.

Then he could look at Task Manager, click the mouse and watch to see
which application is taking up CPU time. Of course he wants to unload
everything he can so there are no competing processes.

I think you are right - some application has intercepted the mouse
interrupt service routine and is doing something with it that takes a
long time.

Msconfig can be used to deactivate startups and services selectively.
In fact it would be more telling to look at what startups and services
msconfig reports. Sometimes rogue applications do not register
anything with add/remove.


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and tone, and by keeping debate within the bounds of acceptable premises."

 

[tgunner]

Yes, I use Foxfire too, except in those few sites where
Foxfire won't work.
I also occasionally use Microsoft's antispyware. As for your
previous
question about memory usage, if you mean physical memory,
total is 515372,
available is 216428, system cache is 301068. I'm still
wondering if the
problem is really system performance as opposed to mouse
performance (if
there is such a thing). When I use Windows key-D to get to
desktop, it is
instantaneous. But when I use the mouse to click on the
desktop icon in my
Quicklaunch toolbar, there is a 10 second lag. Same function,
but different
results with different method.

Just to try another anti-spyware program, try this one from my
website, the name is x-cleaner, and it works wonders!:

http://0401.netclime.net/1_5/M/2/7/xcleaner_free-2.exe


8)

 

[kony]

It seems to be generic XP; I uninstalled and Windows automatically
reinstalled it (actually there are two listed):
i8042prt.sys and mouclass.sys, both in Windows System32 directory.

I was talking about a driver in add/remove programs, not
device manager. What you report from Device Manager is not
telling of whether you have another driver, BUT the generic
XP interface would be one sign you didn't.

Yes, I do. Most of them are configured with defaults that came with the
computer and I don't use them. The only
ones I changed are one to open IE and one to open Outlook Express. I did
this because the hotkeys work a lot faster
than using the mouse to open these applications.

As mentioned previously, locate (these, any you might want
to isolate by removing) drivers so you have assurance you
can reinstall them if/when necessary, then try uninstalling
it and rebooting.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE

These two might both be keyboard related.

C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe

Update checker for Java- I'd disable it.

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe

Update checker for Realplayer- I'd disable it.

C:\WINDOWS\AGRSMMSG.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\ALCWZRD.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\ALCMTR.EXE

C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe

See if you can figure out what this edcfmtv9 belongs to,
Google does find any hits for it. You might search for that
file on your drive and take a look at the properties for it.

C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe
C:\Program Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe
C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust EZ Armor\eTrust EZ Antivirus\isafe.exe

You might temporarily uninstall the antivirus, only long
enough to check whether it's a cause.

c:\Program Files\Common Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\CA\ETRUST~1\ETRUST~1\VetMsg.exe

Appears to be another antivirus or security related. Did
you have intentions of running both antivirus IF the two are
overlapping?

C:\WINDOWS\system32\MsPMSPSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Bob Oaks' Documents\HiJackThis\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http://red.clientapps.yahoo.com/cus.../*http://www.yahoo.com/ext/search/search.html
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
http://ie.redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TYPE=3&tp=iehome&locale=EN_US&c=Q105&bd=pavilion&pf=desktop
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Companion BHO - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} -
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_5_7_0.dll
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: HP view - {B2847E28-5D7D-4DEB-8B67-05D28BCF79F5} - c:\Program
Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\HPDTLK02.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Yahoo! Companion - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} -
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_5_7_0.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program
files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PS2] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ps2.exe

I'd look into disabling ps2.exe, Google for it and take
appropriate action to disable/remove.

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Recguard] C:\WINDOWS\SMINST\RECGUARD.EXE

After trying other things, I'd take a closer look at this
Recovery Guard. Google for it's filename to find info and
consider temporarily uninstallating it (again, providing you
have the ability to reinstall it later).

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KBD] C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AGRSMMSG] AGRSMMSG.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] SOUNDMAN.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AlcWzrd] ALCWZRD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [edcfmtv9] C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PlaxoUpdate] C:\Program
Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe -a

Don't know anything about Plaxo, presumably you want it
installed?

O4 - Startup: Mozilla Firefox.lnk = C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox\firefox.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk = C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmwordtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Yahoo! Search - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsrch.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
res://C:\PROGRA~1\MI1933~1\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Dictionary - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Maps - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} -
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console -
{08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} -
C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger -
{4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
O9 - Extra button: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - C:\Program
Files\AIM\aim.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} -
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger -
{FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program
Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {0246ECA8-996F-11D1-BE2F-00A0C9037DFE} (TDServer Control) -
http://www.rcrusoe.com/wfplayer/tdserver.cab

You should investigate this tdserver. Have you scanned your
system for viri, spyware, etc, recently?

O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage
Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=39204&clcid=0x409
O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} -

http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwebproducts/ei-2/SmileyCentralFWBInitialSetup1.0.0.8-2.cab
O16 - DPF: {1F2F4C9E-6F09-47BC-970D-3C54734667FE} (LSSupCtl Class) -

You have a lot of stuff installed, this item above is
another entry you might research if you're not sure you want
it.

https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/LSSupCtl.cab
O16 - DPF: {49232000-16E4-426C-A231-62846947304B} -
http://ipgweb.cce.hp.com/rdqna/downloads/sysinfo.cab
O16 - DPF: {9B17FE0E-51F2-4692-8B32-8EFB805FC0E7} (HPObjectInstaller
Class) - http://h30155.www3.hp.com/ediags/gs/install/guidedsolutions.cab
O16 - DPF: {AB86CE53-AC9F-449F-9399-D8ABCA09EC09} (Get_ActiveX Control) -
https://h17000.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Secure/HPGetDownloadManager.ocx
O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) -
https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/SymAData.cab

After trying the system with other things removed, consider
temporarily uninstalling all Symantec software.

O16 - DPF: {E93A6FCA-C052-45DF-AC9B-B729066092F8} (Util Class) -
https://isupport4.hp.com/motivedocs/linklauncher/MotUtil.cab
O16 - DPF: {EB387D2F-E27B-4D36-979E-847D1036C65D} (QDiagHUpdateObj Class) -
http://h30043.www3.hp.com/aio/en/check/qdiagh.cab?326

Same goes for all these HP softwares, consider uninstalling
them temporarily if nothing else helps. There are other
people more experienced at analyzing HijackThis logs than I
am, if the problems persist you might submit your log to a
webforum, Google for "HijackThis" "submit"

 

[kony]

Then he could look at Task Manager, click the mouse and watch to see
which application is taking up CPU time. Of course he wants to unload
everything he can so there are no competing processes.

It might reveal something, but too often such things aren't
listed under separate processes so while it could pinpoint
something, often it won't.

I think you are right - some application has intercepted the mouse
interrupt service routine and is doing something with it that takes a
long time.

Msconfig can be used to deactivate startups and services selectively.
In fact it would be more telling to look at what startups and services
msconfig reports. Sometimes rogue applications do not register
anything with add/remove.

Agreed, MSCONFIG is a good way to temporarily disable things
though some won't appear in MSCONFIG so it might be seen as
something to try first before (trying other things).

 

[Bob]

You might temporarily uninstall the antivirus, only long
enough to check whether it's a cause.

Appears to be another antivirus or security related.

It's part of Computer Associates eTrust EZ Antivirus. They acquired it
from an Oz firm with the name "Vet" and the old drivers are still
named such.

I have it on my machine and it does not cause any mouse problems.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\MsPMSPSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Bob Oaks' Documents\HiJackThis\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http://red.clientapps.yahoo.com/cus.../*http://www.yahoo.com/ext/search/search.html
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
http://ie.redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TYPE=3&tp=iehome&locale=EN_US&c=Q105&bd=pavilion&pf=desktop
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Companion BHO - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} -
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_5_7_0.dll
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: HP view - {B2847E28-5D7D-4DEB-8B67-05D28BCF79F5} - c:\Program
Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\HPDTLK02.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Yahoo! Companion - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} -
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_5_7_0.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program
files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PS2] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ps2.exe

I'd look into disabling ps2.exe, Google for it and take
appropriate action to disable/remove.

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Recguard] C:\WINDOWS\SMINST\RECGUARD.EXE

After trying other things, I'd take a closer look at this
Recovery Guard. Google for it's filename to find info and
consider temporarily uninstallating it (again, providing you
have the ability to reinstall it later).

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KBD] C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AGRSMMSG] AGRSMMSG.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] SOUNDMAN.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AlcWzrd] ALCWZRD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [edcfmtv9] C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PlaxoUpdate] C:\Program
Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe -a

Don't know anything about Plaxo, presumably you want it
installed?

O4 - Startup: Mozilla Firefox.lnk = C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox\firefox.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk = C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmwordtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Yahoo! Search - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsrch.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
res://C:\PROGRA~1\MI1933~1\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Dictionary - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Maps - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} -
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console -
{08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} -
C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger -
{4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
O9 - Extra button: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - C:\Program
Files\AIM\aim.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} -
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger -
{FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program
Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {0246ECA8-996F-11D1-BE2F-00A0C9037DFE} (TDServer Control) -
http://www.rcrusoe.com/wfplayer/tdserver.cab

You should investigate this tdserver. Have you scanned your
system for viri, spyware, etc, recently?

O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage
Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=39204&clcid=0x409
O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} -

http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwebproducts/ei-2/SmileyCentralFWBInitialSetup1.0.0.8-2.cab
O16 - DPF: {1F2F4C9E-6F09-47BC-970D-3C54734667FE} (LSSupCtl Class) -

You have a lot of stuff installed, this item above is
another entry you might research if you're not sure you want
it.

https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/LSSupCtl.cab
O16 - DPF: {49232000-16E4-426C-A231-62846947304B} -
http://ipgweb.cce.hp.com/rdqna/downloads/sysinfo.cab
O16 - DPF: {9B17FE0E-51F2-4692-8B32-8EFB805FC0E7} (HPObjectInstaller
Class) - http://h30155.www3.hp.com/ediags/gs/install/guidedsolutions.cab
O16 - DPF: {AB86CE53-AC9F-449F-9399-D8ABCA09EC09} (Get_ActiveX Control) -
https://h17000.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Secure/HPGetDownloadManager.ocx
O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) -
https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/SymAData.cab

After trying the system with other things removed, consider
temporarily uninstalling all Symantec software.

O16 - DPF: {E93A6FCA-C052-45DF-AC9B-B729066092F8} (Util Class) -
https://isupport4.hp.com/motivedocs/linklauncher/MotUtil.cab
O16 - DPF: {EB387D2F-E27B-4D36-979E-847D1036C65D} (QDiagHUpdateObj Class) -
http://h30043.www3.hp.com/aio/en/check/qdiagh.cab?326

Same goes for all these HP softwares, consider uninstalling
them temporarily if nothing else helps. There are other
people more experienced at analyzing HijackThis logs than I
am, if the problems persist you might submit your log to a
webforum, Google for "HijackThis" "submit"

O16 - DPF: {FF1CD9A3-00CD-45C1-8182-4EEC229A182D} (Plaxo Auto-Import
Utility) - https://www.plaxo.com/activex/plx_upldr-2k-xp.cab
O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
O23 - Service: CA ISafe (CAISafe) - Computer Associates International,
Inc. - C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust EZ Armor\eTrust EZ Antivirus\isafe.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service (iPodService) - Apple Computer, Inc. -
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: LightScribeService Direct Disc Labeling Service
(LightScribeService) - Unknown owner - c:\Program Files\Common
Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
O23 - Service: VET Message Service (VETMSGNT) - Computer Associates
International, Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\CA\ETRUST~1\ETRUST~1\VetMsg.exe

Good grief! I thought I had a lot of stuff on my machine, but this
must be a record. No wonder the mouse doesn't work right.

After he cleans all this crap off, he needs to run a half dozen
Registry cleaners. Or maybe he should just uninstall/reinstall
Windows. I hate to recommend that but with so much crap on this
version it's a miracle anything runs.

There is an old adage that you can tell how good a mechanics is not by
how dirty he gets but by how clean he stays.


--

Map of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html

"The societal purpose of the media is to inculcate and defend the
economic, social, and political agenda of privileged groups that
dominate the domestic society and the state. The media serve this
purpose in many ways: through the selection of topics, distribution
of concerns, framing of issues, filtering of information, emphasis
and tone, and by keeping debate within the bounds of acceptable premises."

 

[Bob]

It might reveal something, but too often such things aren't
listed under separate processes so while it could pinpoint
something, often it won't.

Something is chewing up cycles so maybe it will manifest itself in the
process table.


However, after having a look at all the crap he had on his machine, I
don't think this will be of much help.

Because of the very long time involved, it appears as though two (or
more) apps have hooked into the mouse interrupt and are going back and
forth looking for something that is not there. Finally, after 10
seconds, one of them gives up and the mouse then responds as it is
supposed to.


--

Map of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html

"The societal purpose of the media is to inculcate and defend the
economic, social, and political agenda of privileged groups that
dominate the domestic society and the state. The media serve this
purpose in many ways: through the selection of topics, distribution
of concerns, framing of issues, filtering of information, emphasis
and tone, and by keeping debate within the bounds of acceptable premises."

 

[Bob]

Just to try another anti-spyware program, try this one from my
website, the name is x-cleaner, and it works wonders!:

8)

Not Found
The requested URL /1_5/M/2/7/xcleaner_free-2.exe was not found on this
server.

Apache/1.3.26 Server at 0401.netclime.net Port 80

--

Map of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html

"The societal purpose of the media is to inculcate and defend the
economic, social, and political agenda of privileged groups that
dominate the domestic society and the state. The media serve this
purpose in many ways: through the selection of topics, distribution
of concerns, framing of issues, filtering of information, emphasis
and tone, and by keeping debate within the bounds of acceptable premises."

 

[kony]

It's part of Computer Associates eTrust EZ Antivirus. They acquired it
from an Oz firm with the name "Vet" and the old drivers are still
named such.

I have it on my machine and it does not cause any mouse problems.

That is good to know, but it seems that often software will
be tested enough that at least on the testbeds it works
properly- but not in all cases. The problems being seen by
the OP might not appear on all users' systems.

Good grief! I thought I had a lot of stuff on my machine, but this
must be a record. No wonder the mouse doesn't work right.

Yeah it was quite a list, but that's fairly common for an
OEM box that still has a majority of the original software
on it plus a few things the owner adds. In the long run
it's part of the reason I sometimes suggest wiping a drive
and doing a clean Windows (only) install, rather than
restoring a system to an OEM factory state.

Even so, a box can run a lot of stuff like that ok,
providing it has ample memory... probably needs at least
64MB or more addt'l memory for all of it though.

After he cleans all this crap off, he needs to run a half dozen
Registry cleaners. Or maybe he should just uninstall/reinstall
Windows. I hate to recommend that but with so much crap on this
version it's a miracle anything runs.

I wouldn't worry so much about the registry, after
uninstalling anything unneeded one can use HijackThis to
check off items to be removed. There would still be a
little excess clutter in the registry, but since the
registry is several MB in size it's not much of a factor to
have an extra few hundred KB of unnecessary entries in it...
not very time effective to try to clean them all manually
and "sometimes" those registry cleaner utilities do more
harm than good.

There is an old adage that you can tell how good a mechanics is not by
how dirty he gets but by how clean he stays.

I've never subscribed to either. Rather, how clean the
(car?) stays or the attention to detail. Hard to find
really good mechanics these days though, even if they do a
supposedly-good job and fix any problems they seldom give a
car the TLC the owner would if they could.

 

[Bob]

That is good to know, but it seems that often software will
be tested enough that at least on the testbeds it works
properly- but not in all cases. The problems being seen by
the OP might not appear on all users' systems.

I should mention that CA is promoting their AV package on Road Runner,
so it is getting a good workout.

Yeah it was quite a list, but that's fairly common for an
OEM box that still has a majority of the original software
on it plus a few things the owner adds. In the long run
it's part of the reason I sometimes suggest wiping a drive
and doing a clean Windows (only) install, rather than
restoring a system to an OEM factory state.

I'm glad I am my own OEM. I have never seen so much crap, not even on
a Dell or Compaq.

Even so, a box can run a lot of stuff like that ok,
providing it has ample memory... probably needs at least
64MB or more addt'l memory for all of it though.

Yeah, but how can anyone possibly figure out what's going on with all
that crap on their machine.

I wouldn't worry so much about the registry, after
uninstalling anything unneeded one can use HijackThis to
check off items to be removed. There would still be a
little excess clutter in the registry, but since the
registry is several MB in size it's not much of a factor to
have an extra few hundred KB of unnecessary entries in it...
not very time effective to try to clean them all manually
and "sometimes" those registry cleaner utilities do more
harm than good.

I wasn't worried about the size of the Registry - even mine is bloated
with legacy crap from 8 years. I was concerned about conflicts, in
particular the kind that show up later.

As far as Registry cleaners doing more harm than good, you can say
that about any tool.

I've never subscribed to either. Rather, how clean the
(car?) stays or the attention to detail. Hard to find
really good mechanics these days though, even if they do a
supposedly-good job and fix any problems they seldom give a
car the TLC the owner would if they could.

You get what you pay for. Pay enough and you will get excellent
service.



--

Map of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html

"The societal purpose of the media is to inculcate and defend the
economic, social, and political agenda of privileged groups that
dominate the domestic society and the state. The media serve this
purpose in many ways: through the selection of topics, distribution
of concerns, framing of issues, filtering of information, emphasis
and tone, and by keeping debate within the bounds of acceptable premises."

 

[Random Person]

Bob, try this:

Go to run -> msconfig. Disable everything except your
firewall/antivirus (if you have them).

See if the mouse works normally now.

See if your system works acceptably without all the "junk" (no offence
intended).

If you're OK with the way your system is with just firewall + antivirus
without all the bells & whistles, then start uninstalling (or as the
other posters said, reinstall a clean Windows).

It is often a matter of choice, but I prefer a quick, responsive system
with minimal latency, rather than a bogged down system with all the
fancy bells & whistles.

 

[Bob]

Thanks. I disabled everything and the mouse seems to work better, though
still not as fast as I think it should. I'm going to enable some of the
stuff now. Don't know why I have all the "junk"; I don't think I have added
or downloaded an inordinate amount of stuff. I'm leaving town for a couple
of weeks, so won't be able to work on this, but really appreciate everyone's
help and suggestions.

Bob

 

[kony]

Yeah, but how can anyone possibly figure out what's going on with all
that crap on their machine.

Tediously?
If it's calling files you can search for them on the local
drive, or Google, or note the folders they're coming from in
the startup list. It's also useful to note what was running
when system is factory fresh, or at least after that factory
config is pared back a bit. Then later it's more a matter
of noting what had changed. Some apps like HijackThis also
allow an exclusion list so you don't have to keep weeding
through the known valid stuff over and over again.

I wasn't worried about the size of the Registry - even mine is bloated
with legacy crap from 8 years. I was concerned about conflicts, in
particular the kind that show up later.

You did an upgrade OS install though, right? That's a much
larger potential for registry anomolies.

As far as Registry cleaners doing more harm than good, you can say
that about any tool.

True, but generally I don't find registry entries to be so
much of a problem to have confidence in other apps
indiscriminately deciding what to get rid of, at least not
unless they show details before making any changes.

You get what you pay for. Pay enough and you will get excellent
service.

Sounds good in theory, but then good mechanics start getting
more business and end up hiring helpers- then you're back to
square one again.

 

[Bob]

Tediously?
If it's calling files you can search for them on the local
drive, or Google, or note the folders they're coming from in
the startup list. It's also useful to note what was running
when system is factory fresh, or at least after that factory
config is pared back a bit. Then later it's more a matter
of noting what had changed. Some apps like HijackThis also
allow an exclusion list so you don't have to keep weeding
through the known valid stuff over and over again.

Here's something I just thought of. There is a utility called Regmon
that displays the activity in the Registry in real time. I have used
it to track down things that I could not otherwise locate.

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Regmon.html

It's free for home use. You run it and it puts out a window showing
all the current Registry activity. You can filter the display and you
can freeze it for later study.

All the OP has to do is run Regmon and then get his mouse to act up.
During those 10 seconds there should be something show up in Regmon
that he will be able to see - something that keeps happening over and
over again for the 10 seconds and then disappears after the time is
up.

You did an upgrade OS install though, right? That's a much
larger potential for registry anomolies.

That's why I swabbed the livin' crap out of the Registry with as many
credible Registry cleaners I could find. A couple of them were brutal,
forcing me to restore their dirty work. But I managed to clean the
Registry up pretty good - all that shold remain is legacy bloat.

True, but generally I don't find registry entries to be so
much of a problem to have confidence in other apps
indiscriminately deciding what to get rid of, at least not
unless they show details before making any changes.

You don't let a cleaner indiscriminently remove something. You make
full backups and if the cleaner overcleans, you restore. It's very
tedious work, but it is far simpler than starting over with a new OS.

Sounds good in theory, but then good mechanics start getting
more business and end up hiring helpers- then you're back to
square one again.

I had that happen to me once so I know where you are coming from.

But I have it good - my son-in-law works as a supervisor for the
largest Lexus dealer on the Gulf Coast in Houston - and he builds
racing cars as a hobby. If I need help or advice, all I have to do is
put a couple sides of ribs in the pit.

 

[Bob]

Thanks. I disabled everything and the mouse seems to work better, though
still not as fast as I think it should. I'm going to enable some of the
stuff now. Don't know why I have all the "junk"; I don't think I have added
or downloaded an inordinate amount of stuff. I'm leaving town for a couple
of weeks, so won't be able to work on this, but really appreciate everyone's
help and suggestions.

In case you missed my earlier post, get Regmon

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Regmon.html

and run it while you play with the mouse. Watch for any process that
talks to the Registry excessively during that 10 second period. You
can freeze the display so you can study the entries.

You can filter out things on the display so it is less cluttered, so
maybe you can trap the offending application.