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micky
I'm sorry this is so long. It started out very short. :-(
Hi, I have low download speeds on my Verizon DSL connection with XP
Pro SP3.
Low speed test results near the bottom, after my questions. . My speed
should be at least 2.5 times as fast***
I took all the advice I got in a previous related thread-- thanks
again -- including checking the house wiring (which seemed okay but I
may redo later) , and I've posted this both to the only connectivity
ng I can find with traffic** and the XP group.
**(are there more than just alt.comp.networking.connectivity?
But I have some fairly specific questions, at least one of which is XP
related.
1) Right now, I'm connected by cable through my router, a D-Link
DI-524.to my computer. Should I try connecting the cable straight
to the Verizon-provided Westell Modem.? I"m going to try this either
way, but if you say Yes, I'll try it earlier.
(The cable is 100 feet long, from the second floor to the basement. I
think my download speed was low even when I was using a 10 foot cable,
but I could be wrong.)
Someone told me modems get old (and slow). Any truth to that? This
little Westell modem Verizon provided about 4 years ago, and is not
even shown on their debug-it-yourself page. I can get another modem
from them, or a modem/router.
2) While looking around, I saw that Verizon has a DSL HSI Speed
Optimizer, that runs from
http://my.verizon.com/micro/speedoptimizer/hsi/default.aspx
(only when using IE) , but since I don't know what it does or how to
reverse it, and some webposter said it messed him up, I'm scared to
use it. Anyone have anything good or bad to say about it?
Is this what Restore Points are for? I could make one before running
the optimisztion, etc. I'm still afraid everything will seem to be
okay but days or weeks later, when it's too late to restore to the
Restore Point (because that will mess other tihngs up), I'll find
there is a problem.
3) I found dslreports.com and it has a program called DRTCP, that
allows manual mods to certain fields. (maybe all the same modes that
Verizon's program does.)
For MTU the webpage gave a technique to find the best MTU, to avoid
packet fragmentation. It was 1492 and in Doctor TCP I entered 1492 in
the field, rebooted, and saw no difference when using
http://ww.speedtest.net.
4) But the field it said was most important is TCP Receive window,
(RWIN) , and I couldn't quite understand how to calculate my RWIN
value.
It said "The formula for finding your "ideal" RWIN is to take your
latency (average ping time in ms x 1.5), multiply that by your
advertised (download) speed and divide that by 8.
My average ping time over 5 tests is 106 (call it 100)
My advertised download speed is 0.5 - 1.0 Mbs, 500 -1000Kbs Do I use
500 or 500,000, 1000 or 100,000?
If I use 500,
100 x 1.5 x 500 / 8 = 75,000 / 8 = about 10,000 . Is that a
typical RWIN for low-speed DSL?
One reason I don't think so is that somehow the RWIN field already has
a (non-default, I assume) value in it, 500,000. Is that a typcial
value? If I take 10,000 and mulitply by 1000 that gives 10,000,000,
five times what I'm using now. So I'm confused about RWIN.
***Speed test results
Verison webpage speed test
Download Upload
0.221 0.141 Mbps IE
0.060 0.010 FF
0.202 0.087 FF
0.221 0.141 IE
Speedtest.net http://my.verizon.com/micro/speedtest/broadband/#
Ping Download Upload Server location Browser
71ms 0.22Mbps 0.13Mbps New Jersey FF
99 22 13 Baltimore FF
143 22 13 Baltimore IE
100 22 13 NYC IE
120 22 13 Baltimore FF
last one after changing MTU to 1492
I'm in Baltimore, so I started using only the server in Balttimore.
OTOH, TCP Optimizer v3.0.8 (new) says my Connection Speed is 3000
Kbps, but Verizon says I'm only entitled to 500 to 1000 Kbps, and as I
say, my dl sped is much less than either.
****Looking on the web for typical DSL RWIN values I came across
http://www.speedguide.net/analyzer.php which tells me other things
about my very system:
Client OS: Windows XP
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/8.0
TCP options string = 020405a40103030301010402
MTU = 1484 ====> even though DRTCP says it's 1492 !!
MTU is somewhat optimized for broadband. If you're not on a PPPoE DSL
connection that limits packet size, consider increasing your MTU to
1500 for optimal throughput.
====> how do I know if I'm PPPoE or those other choices?
MSS = 1444 ====> This is by def 40 bytes less than than the MTU, 20
bytes for each of two header fields.
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1444, which equals MSS.
Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 500000
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 3 bits (scale factor: 2^3=8)
Unscaled TCP Receive Window = 62500
For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other RWIN values that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
63536 (up to 2 Mbit lines, depending on latency. MSS * 44)
127072 (1-5 Mbit lines, depending on latency. MSS * 44 * 2)
254144 (2-14 Mbit lines, depending on latency. MSS * 44 * 2^2)
508288 (8-30 Mbit lines, depending on latency. MSS * 44 * 2^3)
1016576 (25-60 Mbit lines depending on latency. MSS * 44 * 2^4)
bandwidth * delay product (Note this is not a speed test):
http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in_q.php?category=89&qid=185
Your TCP Window limits you to: 20000 kbps (2500 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your TCP Window limits you to: 8000 kbps (1000 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
====> What are 200 and 500ms? Ping time? If so, mine is
over 1000ms.
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 116 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000 (0)
Below is a compact version of the results without specific
recommendations, useful for sharing your current settings. Feel free
to post in our forums with any questions you may have.
« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results
» Tested on: 2011.12.08 09:57
IP address: 71.166.xx.xxx
Client OS/browser: Windows XP (Firefox 8.0)
TCP options string: 020405a40103030301010402
MSS: 1444
MTU: 1484
TCP Window: 500000 (NOT multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 3 bits (2^3=8)
Unscaled RWIN : 62500
Recommended RWINs: 63536, 127072, 254144, 508288, 1016576 BDP limit
(200ms): 20000kbps (2500KBytes/s) BDP limit (500ms): 8000kbps
(1000KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 116
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
Note: Click in text area to highlight. You can use CTRL+C to copy
above results to clipboard, CTRL+V to paste them.
Optimize Your Connection
The TCP/IP Analyzer results provide packet header information from the
TCP 3-way handshake between your computer and our server. The
information above can be used to fine-tune TCP/IP settings and
optimize your internet connection.
Detailed information on optimizing your network-related settings is
available here: TCP/IP Tweaks Articles
http://www.speedguide.net/articles.php?category=93
We have also developed free programs and patches to help apply the
optimal settings automatically: SG TCP/IP Downloads
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php
Windows XP/2k/2k3/9x links:
Information on optimizing Windows XP/2k for broadband is available
here: Windows XP/2k Tweaks.
http://www.speedguide.net/articles/windows-2kxp-registry-tweaks-157
Windows 9x/XP/2k/2k3 can be tweaked using the SG TCP Optimizer
[from the downloads link just above]
**************
I downloaded it and it says my Connection Speed is 3000 Kbps, but
Verizon says I'm only entitled to 500 to 1000 Kbps, and as I say, my
dl spped is much less.
****************
64,710,439 connections tested since 03.10.2001.
Analyzer version: 1.21 - last updated 12.07.2011.
Hi, I have low download speeds on my Verizon DSL connection with XP
Pro SP3.
Low speed test results near the bottom, after my questions. . My speed
should be at least 2.5 times as fast***
I took all the advice I got in a previous related thread-- thanks
again -- including checking the house wiring (which seemed okay but I
may redo later) , and I've posted this both to the only connectivity
ng I can find with traffic** and the XP group.
**(are there more than just alt.comp.networking.connectivity?
But I have some fairly specific questions, at least one of which is XP
related.
1) Right now, I'm connected by cable through my router, a D-Link
DI-524.to my computer. Should I try connecting the cable straight
to the Verizon-provided Westell Modem.? I"m going to try this either
way, but if you say Yes, I'll try it earlier.
(The cable is 100 feet long, from the second floor to the basement. I
think my download speed was low even when I was using a 10 foot cable,
but I could be wrong.)
Someone told me modems get old (and slow). Any truth to that? This
little Westell modem Verizon provided about 4 years ago, and is not
even shown on their debug-it-yourself page. I can get another modem
from them, or a modem/router.
2) While looking around, I saw that Verizon has a DSL HSI Speed
Optimizer, that runs from
http://my.verizon.com/micro/speedoptimizer/hsi/default.aspx
(only when using IE) , but since I don't know what it does or how to
reverse it, and some webposter said it messed him up, I'm scared to
use it. Anyone have anything good or bad to say about it?
Is this what Restore Points are for? I could make one before running
the optimisztion, etc. I'm still afraid everything will seem to be
okay but days or weeks later, when it's too late to restore to the
Restore Point (because that will mess other tihngs up), I'll find
there is a problem.
3) I found dslreports.com and it has a program called DRTCP, that
allows manual mods to certain fields. (maybe all the same modes that
Verizon's program does.)
For MTU the webpage gave a technique to find the best MTU, to avoid
packet fragmentation. It was 1492 and in Doctor TCP I entered 1492 in
the field, rebooted, and saw no difference when using
http://ww.speedtest.net.
4) But the field it said was most important is TCP Receive window,
(RWIN) , and I couldn't quite understand how to calculate my RWIN
value.
It said "The formula for finding your "ideal" RWIN is to take your
latency (average ping time in ms x 1.5), multiply that by your
advertised (download) speed and divide that by 8.
My average ping time over 5 tests is 106 (call it 100)
My advertised download speed is 0.5 - 1.0 Mbs, 500 -1000Kbs Do I use
500 or 500,000, 1000 or 100,000?
If I use 500,
100 x 1.5 x 500 / 8 = 75,000 / 8 = about 10,000 . Is that a
typical RWIN for low-speed DSL?
One reason I don't think so is that somehow the RWIN field already has
a (non-default, I assume) value in it, 500,000. Is that a typcial
value? If I take 10,000 and mulitply by 1000 that gives 10,000,000,
five times what I'm using now. So I'm confused about RWIN.
***Speed test results
Verison webpage speed test
Download Upload
0.221 0.141 Mbps IE
0.060 0.010 FF
0.202 0.087 FF
0.221 0.141 IE
Speedtest.net http://my.verizon.com/micro/speedtest/broadband/#
Ping Download Upload Server location Browser
71ms 0.22Mbps 0.13Mbps New Jersey FF
99 22 13 Baltimore FF
143 22 13 Baltimore IE
100 22 13 NYC IE
120 22 13 Baltimore FF
last one after changing MTU to 1492
I'm in Baltimore, so I started using only the server in Balttimore.
OTOH, TCP Optimizer v3.0.8 (new) says my Connection Speed is 3000
Kbps, but Verizon says I'm only entitled to 500 to 1000 Kbps, and as I
say, my dl sped is much less than either.
****Looking on the web for typical DSL RWIN values I came across
http://www.speedguide.net/analyzer.php which tells me other things
about my very system:
Client OS: Windows XP
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/8.0
TCP options string = 020405a40103030301010402
MTU = 1484 ====> even though DRTCP says it's 1492 !!
MTU is somewhat optimized for broadband. If you're not on a PPPoE DSL
connection that limits packet size, consider increasing your MTU to
1500 for optimal throughput.
====> how do I know if I'm PPPoE or those other choices?
MSS = 1444 ====> This is by def 40 bytes less than than the MTU, 20
bytes for each of two header fields.
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1444, which equals MSS.
Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 500000
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 3 bits (scale factor: 2^3=8)
Unscaled TCP Receive Window = 62500
For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other RWIN values that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
63536 (up to 2 Mbit lines, depending on latency. MSS * 44)
127072 (1-5 Mbit lines, depending on latency. MSS * 44 * 2)
254144 (2-14 Mbit lines, depending on latency. MSS * 44 * 2^2)
508288 (8-30 Mbit lines, depending on latency. MSS * 44 * 2^3)
1016576 (25-60 Mbit lines depending on latency. MSS * 44 * 2^4)
bandwidth * delay product (Note this is not a speed test):
http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in_q.php?category=89&qid=185
Your TCP Window limits you to: 20000 kbps (2500 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your TCP Window limits you to: 8000 kbps (1000 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
====> What are 200 and 500ms? Ping time? If so, mine is
over 1000ms.
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 116 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000 (0)
Below is a compact version of the results without specific
recommendations, useful for sharing your current settings. Feel free
to post in our forums with any questions you may have.
« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results
» Tested on: 2011.12.08 09:57
IP address: 71.166.xx.xxx
Client OS/browser: Windows XP (Firefox 8.0)
TCP options string: 020405a40103030301010402
MSS: 1444
MTU: 1484
TCP Window: 500000 (NOT multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 3 bits (2^3=8)
Unscaled RWIN : 62500
Recommended RWINs: 63536, 127072, 254144, 508288, 1016576 BDP limit
(200ms): 20000kbps (2500KBytes/s) BDP limit (500ms): 8000kbps
(1000KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 116
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
Note: Click in text area to highlight. You can use CTRL+C to copy
above results to clipboard, CTRL+V to paste them.
Optimize Your Connection
The TCP/IP Analyzer results provide packet header information from the
TCP 3-way handshake between your computer and our server. The
information above can be used to fine-tune TCP/IP settings and
optimize your internet connection.
Detailed information on optimizing your network-related settings is
available here: TCP/IP Tweaks Articles
http://www.speedguide.net/articles.php?category=93
We have also developed free programs and patches to help apply the
optimal settings automatically: SG TCP/IP Downloads
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php
Windows XP/2k/2k3/9x links:
Information on optimizing Windows XP/2k for broadband is available
here: Windows XP/2k Tweaks.
http://www.speedguide.net/articles/windows-2kxp-registry-tweaks-157
Windows 9x/XP/2k/2k3 can be tweaked using the SG TCP Optimizer
[from the downloads link just above]
**************
I downloaded it and it says my Connection Speed is 3000 Kbps, but
Verizon says I'm only entitled to 500 to 1000 Kbps, and as I say, my
dl spped is much less.
****************
64,710,439 connections tested since 03.10.2001.
Analyzer version: 1.21 - last updated 12.07.2011.