Setup Restarts Automatically

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ServerGuy

This has been an ongoing problem for about 3 months now
and i am out of ideas other that it may be the power
supply in my computer. Here are the specs:
420 Watt TurboLink Powersupply
3.0 GHZ 800 FSB Pentium 4 Processor
ATI Radeon 9200 128 MB AGP 8x Graphics Card
Tv Tuner Card (Forget Name of Manuf.)
Philips 5.1 Surround Sound Card
SIIG IDE Expansion Card 2 Slots ATA133
4 Neon Fans 4 Pin Power Supply
1 Cold Cathode W/ 4 Pin Power Supply
3 120 Gig Hard Drives
1 CD-RW/DVD-R Drive
2 CD-RW Drives
1 Zip100 Drive
2 Floppy Drives

Here Is The Configuration:

Master 120 GIG And Slave 120 GIG connected to main IDE
slot in Motherboard
CD-RW and Secondary CD-RW Drive Connected to Secondary IDE
Slot on Motherboard
3rd 120 gig HDD connected to slot 1 on IDE Expansion Card
CD-RW/DVD-R Connected to Slot 2 on IDE Expansion Card

The Problem:
3 Months ago i was having some problems with windows, it
would restart unexpectedly when i was just sitting there
not touching the computer. So i look to see what it could
be. I find nothing out of the ordinary so i suspect i may
have a virus. I scan with 3 seperate virus scanners and
none of them find a single thing. I scan with adaware and
spybot search and destroy. They find nothing. I scan the
registry with RegCleaner and System Mechanic. THey find
nothing out of the ordinary. I do a scan disk and it finds
nothing. At this point i still suspect it is a very bad
virus. So i try to save all my things to my secondary 120
gig to format the hard drive. I use my universal boot disk
and delete the partition on the main 120 gig then format
it using FAT file system. THen using the XP setup disk i
format it again using NTFS and start installing XP. Now i
am thinking i fixed it but then as it gets done copying
the setup files and booting up into the visual setup area,
before i get to any screen to do anything it restarts. I
try the setup many more times and format it many more
times. I get the same thing every time. By this time i
have formatted my 120 gig probably a total of 30 times.
When it happens for the 31st time i figure i have another
bad 120 gig. So i use the 3rd 120 gig and format it using
the xp setup disk. it then copys the setup files and does
the excat same thing. By the time i get done trying the
3rd 120 gig hdd i have probably formatted it 12 times. I
then suspect that one of the cards or cdrom is bad. So i
take everything out of the computer leaving only 1 floppy
drive the graphics card (since the motherboard doesnt have
a built in graphics card) a single cdrom and my 1st 120
gig hdd. I try setup again and it does the same thing.
I try this probably another 3-5 times and try another hard
drive and another cdrom and another floppy drive. I put
the setup cd in and try it once more. It does what it has
always done. By now i am thinking it is the mother board.
so i go buy a new one. the new one is infact better than
the old one. I put the new one in and put everything back
in the way it was before all this crap happened. leaving
the 2nd 120 gig unhooked so i dont accidentally format it
loosing everything i have. i put the xp cd in and lo and
behold it does the excat same thing. Now im not only
confused but angered. I think a while and come to the
conclusion that it is the CD it must be bad. So i take the
xp cd out nad pull out my trusty windows 2000 pro cd i put
it in the master cdrom and boot it up. it gets to the
visual setup screen but when ever it gets to one of 2
points it will retart for no reason. the first point is
when it sets up the network devices, and the second point
which is past the first one which it will occasionally
reach is when it installs the start menu items. about 30
seconds from being done. Then once it restarts now it will
stay on the very first screen when it detects the devices
on the mother board. (the motherboard can support
everything i put on it including the dual floppy drives, i
have looked every peice of it up in the windows and mother
board manufacturers compatibility lists.) Now i do no know
what to do. It may be the power supply cannot support
everything but it even did it when the minnimal items were
hooked to it. the graphics card is compatible with
everything because i only started having this problem
probably after about 7 months of having XP installed on
the computer. I do not have any clue now as what could be
the problem and am now going to try and install Red Hat
9.0 to see if it has the same problems. if it goes fine
the windows is going to get one of those nasty letters. if
not then your support sucks any way and help me.

ServerGuy
 
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Dan Seur

Serverguy - It does sound like a hardware problem, and not easy to diagnose.

Could 'look' like software if the load on the CPU or RAM or PSupply is a
factor; it might actually occur as certain processes kick in. Or if a
drive has a surface problem, as certain processes are loaded but bit
errors are not detected.

- Dicky power supply (or wall current) can cause those symptoms.
- A mismatched or partially bad or failing RAM stick could.
Mismatch=timing problem and instant suicide, no footprints.
- A bad spot on a drive could, when the loaded bits are invalid.
- A bad video card... Etc etc.

If you have another similar machine around, you could try swapping parts
to narrow things down. There are freebie HDD diagnostics from
manufacturers, and a pretty good freebie RAM tester ("ramtest", I think).
 
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Guest

i have so far tried 4 different and seperate sticks of ddr
in the motherboard and have also now tried 4 different
hard drives including 3 120 gig hard drives and 1 30 gig
10,000 rpm drive. none of which work, right now im
actually thinking it may be the processor which pisses me
off to no extent. 500 dollar processor. and if they dont
give me a new one then im gonna be UBER pissed
 
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Dave Patrick

You did F6 and load your ATA133 driver didn't you? (at setup is inspecting
your system)

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| This has been an ongoing problem for about 3 months now
| and i am out of ideas other that it may be the power
| supply in my computer. Here are the specs:
| 420 Watt TurboLink Powersupply
| 3.0 GHZ 800 FSB Pentium 4 Processor
| ATI Radeon 9200 128 MB AGP 8x Graphics Card
| Tv Tuner Card (Forget Name of Manuf.)
| Philips 5.1 Surround Sound Card
| SIIG IDE Expansion Card 2 Slots ATA133
| 4 Neon Fans 4 Pin Power Supply
| 1 Cold Cathode W/ 4 Pin Power Supply
| 3 120 Gig Hard Drives
| 1 CD-RW/DVD-R Drive
| 2 CD-RW Drives
| 1 Zip100 Drive
| 2 Floppy Drives
|
| Here Is The Configuration:
|
| Master 120 GIG And Slave 120 GIG connected to main IDE
| slot in Motherboard
| CD-RW and Secondary CD-RW Drive Connected to Secondary IDE
| Slot on Motherboard
| 3rd 120 gig HDD connected to slot 1 on IDE Expansion Card
| CD-RW/DVD-R Connected to Slot 2 on IDE Expansion Card
|
| The Problem:
| 3 Months ago i was having some problems with windows, it
| would restart unexpectedly when i was just sitting there
| not touching the computer. So i look to see what it could
| be. I find nothing out of the ordinary so i suspect i may
| have a virus. I scan with 3 seperate virus scanners and
| none of them find a single thing. I scan with adaware and
| spybot search and destroy. They find nothing. I scan the
| registry with RegCleaner and System Mechanic. THey find
| nothing out of the ordinary. I do a scan disk and it finds
| nothing. At this point i still suspect it is a very bad
| virus. So i try to save all my things to my secondary 120
| gig to format the hard drive. I use my universal boot disk
| and delete the partition on the main 120 gig then format
| it using FAT file system. THen using the XP setup disk i
| format it again using NTFS and start installing XP. Now i
| am thinking i fixed it but then as it gets done copying
| the setup files and booting up into the visual setup area,
| before i get to any screen to do anything it restarts. I
| try the setup many more times and format it many more
| times. I get the same thing every time. By this time i
| have formatted my 120 gig probably a total of 30 times.
| When it happens for the 31st time i figure i have another
| bad 120 gig. So i use the 3rd 120 gig and format it using
| the xp setup disk. it then copys the setup files and does
| the excat same thing. By the time i get done trying the
| 3rd 120 gig hdd i have probably formatted it 12 times. I
| then suspect that one of the cards or cdrom is bad. So i
| take everything out of the computer leaving only 1 floppy
| drive the graphics card (since the motherboard doesnt have
| a built in graphics card) a single cdrom and my 1st 120
| gig hdd. I try setup again and it does the same thing.
| I try this probably another 3-5 times and try another hard
| drive and another cdrom and another floppy drive. I put
| the setup cd in and try it once more. It does what it has
| always done. By now i am thinking it is the mother board.
| so i go buy a new one. the new one is infact better than
| the old one. I put the new one in and put everything back
| in the way it was before all this crap happened. leaving
| the 2nd 120 gig unhooked so i dont accidentally format it
| loosing everything i have. i put the xp cd in and lo and
| behold it does the excat same thing. Now im not only
| confused but angered. I think a while and come to the
| conclusion that it is the CD it must be bad. So i take the
| xp cd out nad pull out my trusty windows 2000 pro cd i put
| it in the master cdrom and boot it up. it gets to the
| visual setup screen but when ever it gets to one of 2
| points it will retart for no reason. the first point is
| when it sets up the network devices, and the second point
| which is past the first one which it will occasionally
| reach is when it installs the start menu items. about 30
| seconds from being done. Then once it restarts now it will
| stay on the very first screen when it detects the devices
| on the mother board. (the motherboard can support
| everything i put on it including the dual floppy drives, i
| have looked every peice of it up in the windows and mother
| board manufacturers compatibility lists.) Now i do no know
| what to do. It may be the power supply cannot support
| everything but it even did it when the minnimal items were
| hooked to it. the graphics card is compatible with
| everything because i only started having this problem
| probably after about 7 months of having XP installed on
| the computer. I do not have any clue now as what could be
| the problem and am now going to try and install Red Hat
| 9.0 to see if it has the same problems. if it goes fine
| the windows is going to get one of those nasty letters. if
| not then your support sucks any way and help me.
|
| ServerGuy
 
C

coolguy58

hey ServerGuy did you find the problem yet? I dont think its the powe
supply, could be ur video card or cpu getting to hot and ur compute
restarts try changing one of the


-
coolguy5
 
M

MasterSchwag

Dan said:
*Serverguy - It does sound like a hardware problem, and not easy t
diagnose.

Could 'look' like software if the load on the CPU or RAM or PSuppl
is a
factor; it might actually occur as certain processes kick in. Or i
a
drive has a surface problem, as certain processes are loaded but bit
errors are not detected.

- Dicky power supply (or wall current) can cause those symptoms.
- A mismatched or partially bad or failing RAM stick could.
Mismatch=timing problem and instant suicide, no footprints.
- A bad spot on a drive could, when the loaded bits are invalid.
- A bad video card... Etc etc.

If you have another similar machine around, you could try swappin
parts
to narrow things down. There are freebie HDD diagnostics from
manufacturers, and a pretty good freebie RAM tester ("ramtest",
think).
It may be the ATI Radeon Video card you have Because I have an ATI
Radeon 9600 256MB AGP 8x (Recently upgraded from a GeForce FX5200 256MB
PCI) and my computer restarts 3 or 4 times a day! It started when I
replaced my video Card... If you Figure It out I could use help too!
 
M

MasterSchwag

MasterSchwag said:
*It may be the ATI Radeon Video card you have Because I have an AT
Radeon 9600 256MB AGP 8x (Recently upgraded from a GeForce FX520
256MB PCI) and my computer restarts 3 or 4 times a day! It starte
when I replaced my video Card... If you Figure It out I could us
help too! *
An Option on ATI Radeon Cards is VPU Recover, it resets the graphic
card and i guess has a flaw that restarts the computer automatically i
it doesnt communicate properly??? Just a hypothesis thoug


-
MasterSchwa
 

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