Server won't share

M

marsha

I have installed a trial copy of windows 2003 server and have setup
file share. I put on the data file that all of our users need on that
computer
and shared that folder.

I set the workgroup to the same and when I use this machine on the
network, it can see all the other computers and they can see it. But when
they try to access the server, the network dialog box comes up that ask
for user name and password.

I am unable to figure out how to give these users permission to access the
folder I shared. I really want to do this in the easiest way possible.

Do I have to setup Active Directory and Domain on this new server in order
to share the one folder????

Thanks much!!!!!!!!!!!
 
F

Frankster

Create a user account on your new server EXACTLY MATCHING the
userID/Password off all your users on their own workstation. Give those
users access to the share. After that, when connecting, the share
user/password prompt will go away.

-Frank
 
G

Guest

make a standard user on server and rest of machines with same password ,give
permission to that user on server and then log on from any machine with that
user and check.

good luck
 
D

Danny Sanders

I set the workgroup to the same and when I use this machine on the
network, it can see all the other computers and they can see it. But when
they try to access the server, the network dialog box comes up that ask
for user name and password.

On the computer you are sharing the folder, set up users using the same
username and password used to log onto the computers the users needing to
access the share use. Then grant the user proper permission to the share.

Example Computer A and computer B. Computer A has the share and Computer B
needs to access the share. The user that logs on to computer B uses "myname"
as the user name and "password" as the password to log onto computer B.

Set up a user on computer A with the name "myname" and the password
"password". Then on the security tab of the shared folder on computer A,
"add" the user "myname" to the list that can access the folder.

hth
DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
 
M

marsha

Frankster said:
Create a user account on your new server EXACTLY MATCHING the
userID/Password off all your users on their own workstation. Give those
users access to the share. After that, when connecting, the share
user/password prompt will go away.

Thanks Frank,
I have done that many times on a w2k machine but this is windows server 2003
and
I can't figure out how to do it. The users/passwords is not in the control
panel. It seems
that I have to set up an Active Directory and Domain to make this process
work and
that gets complicated.

Is there some easy way to do it??? Thanks!!!!!!!1
 
M

marsha

tremor said:
make a standard user on server and rest of machines with same password ,give
permission to that user on server and then log on from any machine with that
user and check.

Thanks Tremor,

How do I do that??? It doesn't work the same way on the 2003 Server OS as a
regular
w2k machine.
 
F

Frankster

Create a user account on your new server
Thanks Frank,
I have done that many times on a w2k machine but this is
windows server 2003 and I can't figure out how to do it. The
users/passwords is not in the control panel.

Okay, since you apparently do not have any "Local Users and Groups" on this
machine, that would be because you set it up as a "Domain Controller" with
Active Directory. DCs do not have any "Local" accounts. They are all domain
accounts. W2K and W2k3 behave exactly the same in this regard. Your W2K
servers are probably "Member Servers" rather than "Domain Controllers".
That's the difference.
It seems that I have to set up an Active Directory and Domain to make
this process work and that gets complicated.

I believe you already have set up an Active Directory Domain. Now, what you
will need to do is to make your workstations (and users) a member of that
domain, to share resources.
Is there some easy way to do it??? Thanks!!!!!!!

Maybe not easy, but yes... :)

1st) Join the workstation to the domain (done via the workstation My
Computer, Properties, Computer Name, Network ID options)

2nd) Create a Domain user account for the individual on the W2k3 server (all
accounts created on this server will be "domain accounts". You cannot have
any local accounts).

3rd) Make sure the user subsequently logs onto the Domain, not their local
workstation (via the pull down menu on the logon screen).

Before going too far, since this is an eval version anyway, you *might* want
to demote this domain controller to a member server. Member servers will
operate like your member server W2K machine and will have local users. Then
you can create the same userID/Pswd just like you have before.

To demote the W2K DC to a member server you can run "DCPROMO" from a command
line and choose the demote options (or similar, I can't remember the exact
wording). Also, you'll want to uninstall Active Directory.

Good luck.

-Frank
 
F

Frankster

Another thought....

You said you couldn't find users in the Control Panel.

Look here: Right-click My Computer, Choose Manage. Look for "Local Users
and Groups". If you see it, then this machine is NOT a domain controller and
you can proceed just like on your W2K servers from their, creating local
userID/passwords.

-Frank
 
M

marsha

Okay, since you apparently do not have any "Local Users and Groups" on this
machine, that would be because you set it up as a "Domain Controller" with
Active Directory.

After being unable to figure out the way to use workgroup, I did set up the
Domain
Controller but after working with it an hour or two, I deleted it. So I am
back to
a workgroup system. But I still don't see "Users and Passwords" in the
control
panel. Am I supposed to????

One reason I don't want to set up a domain is my understanding that it will
only
take w2k and xp pro users. I have two xp home machines.

Thanks for your help!!!!
 
F

Frankster

Did you see my other post? Here's a quote... Try this.

You said you couldn't find users in the Control Panel.

Look here: Right-click My Computer, Choose Manage. Look for "Local Users
and Groups". If you see it, then this machine is NOT a domain controller and
you can proceed just like on your W2K servers from their, creating local
userID/passwords.

-Frank
 
M

marsha

Thanks, strangely I got it working for most users. But couple of users (one
w2k and one xp pro)
could not access the shared folder. They can see the folder itsself, but
can't open it. Also, they
are the computers that when I clicked on the server, it opened immediately
without asking for user
name and password (which I set up for each user).

So I guess they are trying to access the folder not as their user name but
someother way. I don't
know why these two users had that problem.

Any guesses???

Thanks so much for all the
help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
F

Frankster

So I guess they are trying to access the folder not as their user name but
someother way. I don't
know why these two users had that problem.

Any guesses???

Thanks so much for all the
help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I'm kinda stumped from here. Not sure. Any chance the successful
users have Admin privileges (or power user) and the two who can't open it
don't?

Also, what do you mean by they can't open it? What error message?

-Frank
 
M

marsha

Also, what do you mean by they can't open it? What error message?

I'm starting to be brain dead and had to switch the real server back into
play so that
users could get their work done.

I think it just said "Unable to access". I would have sworn that I set up
each user the same way making
each a user with user name and password.
 
G

Guest

marsha try to access local policy of server and try change one ploicy coming
under
security ''network access: sharing and security model for local accounts''
check whats is default if it is guest then change it to ''classic : local
user authenticate as themselves''

good luck
 
M

marsha

tremor said:
marsha try to access local policy of server and try change one ploicy coming
under
security ''network access: sharing and security model for local accounts''
check whats is default if it is guest then change it to ''classic : local
user authenticate as themselves''

Thanks for the suggestion tremor, but I can't find the location for checking
that.
I did a right click on My Computer and then Manage and have been all over
the
Computer Management window but don't see "network access: sharing and
security
model for local accounts"

Could you walk me through getting to that setting?

Thanks so much!!! I really appreciate your help, Tremor.
 
M

marsha

Well, I'm kinda stumped from here. Not sure. Any chance the successful
users have Admin privileges (or power user) and the two who can't open it
don't?

Could you tell me how to get to where I can check so that I can answer your
question? This server is very new to me and it has security settings all
over the
place. I am so turned around it is pathetic.

Thanks so much for your help Frankster!!!
 
F

Frankster

Well, I'm kinda stumped from here. Not sure. Any chance the successful
Could you tell me how to get to where I can check so that I can answer
your
question? This server is very new to me and it has security settings all
over the
place. I am so turned around it is pathetic.

Thanks so much for your help Frankster!!!

Right click on My Computer, then click Manage, then expand "Local Users and
Groups", then highlight Users in left pane, then Right click on the username
of interest, choose Properties, select the "Member of" tab. That will tell
you what groups the user is a member of (i.e. Admin, Power User, User, etc).

Note: For all practical purposes, a 2003 non-domain controller is just like
an XP workstation when it comes to managing users.

-Frank
 
M

marsha

Right click on My Computer, then click Manage, then expand "Local Users and
Groups", then highlight Users in left pane, then Right click on the username
of interest, choose Properties, select the "Member of" tab. That will tell
you what groups the user is a member of (i.e. Admin, Power User, User,
etc).

Thanks for the great directions. They are all members of Users. But I
can't find
the actual description for what that allows them to do. They must be
allowed to
change the data in the data folder. That is all I really want them to be
able to do
(that and read it of course).
Note: For all practical purposes, a 2003 non-domain controller is just like
an XP workstation when it comes to managing users.

Thanks. All my experience is with w2k.
 
F

Frankster

Note: For all practical purposes, a 2003 non-domain controller is just
like

Thanks. All my experience is with w2k.

Oh, okay then. They are just like w2k. Hehe.. no, really. No real
difference except where to find the user manager application.

-Frank
 

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