Section Breaks auto changing to Continuous in Subdocument

[Kathy]

Working with 2003. When building a subdocument, we insert a Page Break/
Next Section between each document (file) - some documents have
numbered lists. The problem is that during the subdocument build, the
Next Section breaks are automatically turning into Continuous breaks.
Of course because Next Section breaks aren't being recognized, the
numbered lists are renumbered from document to document. We have tried
to add a new Next Section break and the then delete the old
'Continuous' break - seems to work for some and not others and then it
seems all of the Next Section Breas are again turned into Continuous
Breaks. This did not happen in Word 2002. Did something change
between those releases regarding Next Page/Continuous Breaks?? Of
course it's time to publish and we are having problems. Thanks in
advance.

 

[Robert M. Franz (RMF)]

Hello Kathy

you are aware of the "gotchas" with Master/Subdocuments in the "literature?"

Why Master Documents corrupt (by John McGhie)
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/WhyMasterDocsCorrupt.htm

Working with 2003. When building a subdocument, we insert a Page Break/
Next Section between each document (file) - some documents have
numbered lists. The problem is that during the subdocument build, the
Next Section breaks are automatically turning into Continuous breaks.

these next (I presume page type section breaks are _within_ a
subdocument? Or are these the section breaks used to wrap Subdocuments
(i.e., separate from the Masterdocument itself)? How exactly are you
building the Subs? Are you using code? Have you compared a recorded
macro when you insert a subdocument manually to your code?

Of course because Next Section breaks aren't being recognized, the
numbered lists are renumbered from document to document.

The type of a section break has, to my understanding, nothing to do
restarting/breaking any numbering chains.

We have tried
to add a new Next Section break and the then delete the old
'Continuous' break - seems to work for some and not others and then it
seems all of the Next Section Breas are again turned into Continuous
Breaks. This did not happen in Word 2002. Did something change
between those releases regarding Next Page/Continuous Breaks?? Of
course it's time to publish and we are having problems. Thanks in
advance.

Hard to help, as we don't know what/why you're using the subdocument
feature in the first place. If you're dealing with code, best visit one
of the word.vba.* forums and include the relevant bits.

..2cents
Robert

 

[Kathy]

Hello Kathy

you are aware of the "gotchas" with Master/Subdocuments in the "literature?"

Why Master Documents corrupt (by John McGhie)http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/WhyMasterDocsCorrupt.htm


these next (I presume page type section breaks are _within_ a
subdocument? Or are these the section breaks used to wrap Subdocuments
(i.e., separate from the Masterdocument itself)? How exactly are you
building the Subs? Are you using code? Have you compared a recorded
macro when you insert a subdocument manually to your code?


The type of a section break has, to my understanding, nothing to do
restarting/breaking any numbering chains.


Hard to help, as we don't know what/why you're using the subdocument
feature in the first place. If you're dealing with code, best visit one
of the word.vba.* forums and include the relevant bits.

.2cents
Robert
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Robert -

We are well aware of the 'so-called' pitfalls of Master Documents -
however, we publish all our software documentation using Master
Documents and have for 5 years. These documents range from 100 - 1000
pages. We (knock on wood) have had no issues using Master Documents.
We 'include' individual file documents into a Sub-document to build
chapters. The Master Document is created using the Sub-documents. Have
never had an issue - we don't use 'code' anywhere and our
documentation is isolated within our network. We have very high
standards as to style/formatting. We do, however, have a new writer
who may not have followed our rigorous standards and did something
unknowingly. Thanks for the response - I leave it to human error. We
did get the Sub-document corrected and the Master built !!

 

[Robert M. Franz (RMF)]

Hello Kathy

Kathy wrote:
[..]

We are well aware of the 'so-called' pitfalls of Master Documents -
however, we publish all our software documentation using Master
Documents and have for 5 years. These documents range from 100 - 1000
pages. We (knock on wood) have had no issues using Master Documents.
We 'include' individual file documents into a Sub-document to build
chapters. The Master Document is created using the Sub-documents. Have
never had an issue - we don't use 'code' anywhere and our
documentation is isolated within our network. We have very high
standards as to style/formatting. We do, however, have a new writer
who may not have followed our rigorous standards and did something
unknowingly. Thanks for the response - I leave it to human error. We
did get the Sub-document corrected and the Master built !!

as long as you are aware, that's fine. You don't specify what you're
using the feature for, though (there's nothing in your text that would
not be possible with a single file).

But as long as you got it working again, all is fine ...

Greetinx
Robert