Samsung ML-2010

[Jeff]

I am looking for a home PC laser printer. It will be mainly used for
printing documents (Word and .pdf) and images. The printing load will be
light.

It usually on sale for around $60. What are the pros and cons of this
printer?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Brendan R. Wehrung]

I am looking for a home PC laser printer. It will be mainly used for
printing documents (Word and .pdf) and images. The printing load will be
light.

It usually on sale for around $60. What are the pros and cons of this
printer?

Thanks in advance.

I have a 1740, which preceded the 1740. I asked how the two were
different and was told that the 2010 has a lighter duty cycle (built to
make fewer prints a month) but has at least one replacable roller, which
might mean you can fix slippage problems with a replacement. I've been
happy with my 1740. Be aware they probably give you a half-full starter
cartridge.

Brendan

 

[Davy]

I have a ML1510 El' cheapo cost me £54 inc del. and 12 month
warranty....still going string after about three refills and its bee
given some clog..! Funny part is the toner unit's more what I paid

You can refill these as long as the Drum holds out. If you wana fin
out if yours will be refillable have peep at -

http://www.refill-toner.co.uk/index.htm ..... the number of time
I've given this out you'd think I would get a couple of FREE refil
kits nudge nudge, wink wink.... gotta admit it does show you ho
it's done

The only niggle this one puts a tiny crease in one corner of thos
'self seal envelopes (yep I said self seal) and never jammed yet,, i
does it with standard envelops....OK I know I should use labels...

Dav

 

[Forrest]

I am looking for a home PC laser printer. It will be mainly used for
printing documents (Word and .pdf) and images. The printing load will be
light.

It usually on sale for around $60. What are the pros and cons of this
printer?

The only significant con I've found is that it seems to put a bit of a
load on my motherboard's USB circuitry. I've got a mouse plugged into
the other port, and after printing the mouse goes a bit strange --
spurious movement and clicks, and occasionally a dead pointer.
Sometimes it comes back, sometimes replugging is necessary.

This happens under Windows XP and Slackware Linux.

I do vaguely wish I'd gone for the big brother, ML-2550 I think it is,
which has a 6x larger duty cycle and about a 3-4x larger paper tray for
only about double the price, but I'm satisfied.


(When the fuser powers up, or at least I assume that's what's happening,
it makes a noise that sounds like "Whee!" How nice to be able to make a
simple peripheral so happy. )

 

[Tony]

The only significant con I've found is that it seems to put a bit of a
load on my motherboard's USB circuitry. I've got a mouse plugged into
the other port, and after printing the mouse goes a bit strange --
spurious movement and clicks, and occasionally a dead pointer.
Sometimes it comes back, sometimes replugging is necessary.

This happens under Windows XP and Slackware Linux.

I do vaguely wish I'd gone for the big brother, ML-2550 I think it is,
which has a 6x larger duty cycle and about a 3-4x larger paper tray for
only about double the price, but I'm satisfied.


(When the fuser powers up, or at least I assume that's what's happening,
it makes a noise that sounds like "Whee!" How nice to be able to make a
simple peripheral so happy. )

Most likely the laser scanner winding up, sometimes referred to as a "whine"
but I much prefer your "Whee" it makes the printer sound like it enjoys its
work!
Tony

 

[Don Dunlap]

Most likely the laser scanner winding up, sometimes referred to as a
"whine"
but I much prefer your "Whee" it makes the printer sound like it enjoys
its
work!
Tony

I just bought one of these printers and it prints OK, but if I turn it on
after the computer has been turned on, it draws so much current that it
causes the computer to reboot. If I turn it on and then turn on the
computer, it works O.K.. The surge when it is turned on is too much. Does
anyone else have this problem?

Don Dunlap

 

[Tony]

I just bought one of these printers and it prints OK, but if I turn it on
after the computer has been turned on, it draws so much current that it
causes the computer to reboot. If I turn it on and then turn on the
computer, it works O.K.. The surge when it is turned on is too much. Does
anyone else have this problem?

Don Dunlap

Don
I had a quick look to see what the current draw is for this printer but could
not find it. However it is a small printer and I would not expect the inrush
current to be significant.
Are you running the printer directly from the mains or is it connected to a
UPS, power strip or similar? If it is connected via a power device, try direct
to mains. Otherwise my suspicion is that the current handling of the mains
circuit is the problem, this can often result from a poor mains socket or
similar, that would probably need an electrician to check.
Tony

 

[Brendan R. Wehrung]

I just bought one of these printers and it prints OK, but if I turn it on
after the computer has been turned on, it draws so much current that it
causes the computer to reboot. If I turn it on and then turn on the
computer, it works O.K.. The surge when it is turned on is too much. Does
anyone else have this problem?

Don Dunlap

It happens with my Lexmark E210 (Samsung built) but not Samsung ML 1740.
The sudden current draw as the fuser powers up is sensed as a surge by my
uniturruptible power supply, whose solenoid cyles. More annoying with the
210 is that it goes to sleep if no used and powers up again when I send
something, causing (sometimes) the same problem. (I keep the 210 because
it has a straight paper path and can handle light card stock.)

Brendan

 

[Don Dunlap]

Don
I had a quick look to see what the current draw is for this printer but
could
not find it. However it is a small printer and I would not expect the
inrush
current to be significant.
Are you running the printer directly from the mains or is it connected to
a
UPS, power strip or similar? If it is connected via a power device, try
direct
to mains. Otherwise my suspicion is that the current handling of the mains
circuit is the problem, this can often result from a poor mains socket or
similar, that would probably need an electrician to check.
Tony

I'm running it from the wall plug. I have a UPS but only have the computer,
modem and monitor on the UPS side and have a few other devices on the
protected side. I am beginning to think that I might have a breaker problem
or even a wall plug that is not right.

I also tried the company site and couldn't find the current draw at power
on.

Don

 

[Forrest]

I just bought one of these printers and it prints OK, but if I turn it on
after the computer has been turned on, it draws so much current that it
causes the computer to reboot. If I turn it on and then turn on the
computer, it works O.K.. The surge when it is turned on is too much. Does
anyone else have this problem?

Not to that extreme, but reviews have noted its higher-than-normal draw.
I took it off the power strip.

 

[cvt]

Not to that extreme, but reviews have noted its higher-than-normal
draw.
I took it off the power strip.

If you are in america things will be different, but on a 240v Powersupply
if the printer is causing such a power drop to make the PSU trip you have a
serious issue somewhere in your wiring, either inside one of the plugs, the
contacts on the plugs, or maybe even inside the wall going up to that plug.

Are your power leads cold to the touch? What about the plugs?
Do the lights dim aswell when the printer is turned on, or is the voltage
drop localized mainly to the computer/printer?

 

[Don Dunlap]

If you are in america things will be different, but on a 240v Powersupply
if the printer is causing such a power drop to make the PSU trip you have
a
serious issue somewhere in your wiring, either inside one of the plugs,
the
contacts on the plugs, or maybe even inside the wall going up to that
plug.

Are your power leads cold to the touch? What about the plugs?
Do the lights dim aswell when the printer is turned on, or is the voltage
drop localized mainly to the computer/printer?

I am in the US. I took the printer off the power strip and plugged it into
the wall plug and it still causes the problem.I have tried it in two wall
plugs also with the same problem. I did notice that when it was plugged
into the power strip that once it caused the re-boot of the computer well
after the printer had been running. There was nothing noticeable happening
and the printer was quiet when this happened.

Maybe I do have a wiring problem, but I don't really think so. The house is
new, only two years old, and I have several peripherals hooked up to the
computer that is normally turned on with no problems. I turn all of this
equipment off with the Samsung printer being the only peripheral turned on
and the problem occurs. When I say several peripherals, I mean a Canon
printer, a scanner, two external hard drives, a DSL modem, and naturally a
monitor. I have two lights on the desk, a phone with a power connector and
a battery charger attached to the same outlets served by a common circuit
breaker.

I believe that it is just a fault within the printer and I am going to
pursue returning it.

Don Dunlap

 

[cvt]

I am in the US. I took the printer off the power strip and plugged it
into the wall plug and it still causes the problem.I have tried it in
two wall plugs also with the same problem. I did notice that when it
was plugged into the power strip that once it caused the re-boot of
the computer well after the printer had been running. There was
nothing noticeable happening and the printer was quiet when this
happened.

Maybe I do have a wiring problem, but I don't really think so. The
house is new, only two years old, and I have several peripherals
hooked up to the computer that is normally turned on with no problems.
I turn all of this equipment off with the Samsung printer being the
only peripheral turned on and the problem occurs. When I say several
peripherals, I mean a Canon printer, a scanner, two external hard
drives, a DSL modem, and naturally a monitor. I have two lights on
the desk, a phone with a power connector and a battery charger
attached to the same outlets served by a common circuit breaker.

I believe that it is just a fault within the printer and I am going to
pursue returning it.

Don Dunlap

See how you go returning it, the other thing it could be is if you have
some cheap yum-cha powersupply thats overly sensitive to voltage, and you
are already pulling so much power that its right at the limit of what its
happy to handle, the printer could easily be enough to pull it over the
edge.
Being in the US and having 110v power, everything you have causes twice
the power drop as it does on the 230/240v systems (because twice the
ampherage for same wattage), and having seen the kind of things I have on
these systems, I would not be surprised if the printer is fine.

Hope getting the printer replaced solves the issue and what I'm
suggesting is wrong!

 

[cvt]

I am in the US. I took the printer off the power strip and plugged it
into the wall plug and it still causes the problem.I have tried it in
two wall plugs also with the same problem. I did notice that when it
was plugged into the power strip that once it caused the re-boot of
the computer well after the printer had been running. There was
nothing noticeable happening and the printer was quiet when this
happened.

Maybe I do have a wiring problem, but I don't really think so. The
house is new, only two years old, and I have several peripherals
hooked up to the computer that is normally turned on with no problems.
I turn all of this equipment off with the Samsung printer being the
only peripheral turned on and the problem occurs. When I say several
peripherals, I mean a Canon printer, a scanner, two external hard
drives, a DSL modem, and naturally a monitor. I have two lights on
the desk, a phone with a power connector and a battery charger
attached to the same outlets served by a common circuit breaker.

I believe that it is just a fault within the printer and I am going to
pursue returning it.

Don Dunlap

Something I should have thought of from the start..

Theres a high possibility its drivers...

-- Turn on the computer, at the bios push the "pause" button on the
keybaod, power the printer, see if it restarts.
alternatively
-- unplug the printer from the computer, and turn it on, see of the
computer reboots.]

 

[Don Dunlap]

I am in the US. I took the printer off the power strip and plugged it
into the wall plug and it still causes the problem.I have tried it in
two wall plugs also with the same problem. I did notice that when it
was plugged into the power strip that once it caused the re-boot of
the computer well after the printer had been running. There was
nothing noticeable happening and the printer was quiet when this
happened.

Maybe I do have a wiring problem, but I don't really think so. The
house is new, only two years old, and I have several peripherals
hooked up to the computer that is normally turned on with no problems.
I turn all of this equipment off with the Samsung printer being the
only peripheral turned on and the problem occurs. When I say several
peripherals, I mean a Canon printer, a scanner, two external hard
drives, a DSL modem, and naturally a monitor. I have two lights on
the desk, a phone with a power connector and a battery charger
attached to the same outlets served by a common circuit breaker.

I believe that it is just a fault within the printer and I am going to
pursue returning it.

Don Dunlap

Something I should have thought of from the start..

Theres a high possibility its drivers...

-- Turn on the computer, at the bios push the "pause" button on the
keybaod, power the printer, see if it restarts.
alternatively
-- unplug the printer from the computer, and turn it on, see of the
computer reboots.]

You are on to something there. I just unplugged the USB connector and
turned on the printer. No problem with the computer - it didn't reboot. I
will check some more things and let you know what happens.

Thanks for the suggestion,
Don

 

[Don Dunlap]

Don Dunlap wrote:

I just bought one of these printers and it prints OK, but if I turn
it on after the computer has been turned on, it draws so much
current that it causes the computer to reboot. If I turn it on and
then turn on the computer, it works O.K.. The surge when it is
turned on is too much. Does anyone else have this problem?

Not to that extreme, but reviews have noted its higher-than-normal
draw.
I took it off the power strip.


If you are in america things will be different, but on a 240v
Powersupply if the printer is causing such a power drop to make the
PSU trip you have a
serious issue somewhere in your wiring, either inside one of the
plugs, the
contacts on the plugs, or maybe even inside the wall going up to that
plug.

Are your power leads cold to the touch? What about the plugs?
Do the lights dim aswell when the printer is turned on, or is the
voltage drop localized mainly to the computer/printer?

I am in the US. I took the printer off the power strip and plugged it
into the wall plug and it still causes the problem.I have tried it in
two wall plugs also with the same problem. I did notice that when it
was plugged into the power strip that once it caused the re-boot of
the computer well after the printer had been running. There was
nothing noticeable happening and the printer was quiet when this
happened.

Maybe I do have a wiring problem, but I don't really think so. The
house is new, only two years old, and I have several peripherals
hooked up to the computer that is normally turned on with no problems.
I turn all of this equipment off with the Samsung printer being the
only peripheral turned on and the problem occurs. When I say several
peripherals, I mean a Canon printer, a scanner, two external hard
drives, a DSL modem, and naturally a monitor. I have two lights on
the desk, a phone with a power connector and a battery charger
attached to the same outlets served by a common circuit breaker.

I believe that it is just a fault within the printer and I am going to
pursue returning it.

Don Dunlap

Something I should have thought of from the start..

Theres a high possibility its drivers...

-- Turn on the computer, at the bios push the "pause" button on the
keybaod, power the printer, see if it restarts.
alternatively
-- unplug the printer from the computer, and turn it on, see of the
computer reboots.]

You are on to something there. I just unplugged the USB connector and
turned on the printer. No problem with the computer - it didn't reboot.
I will check some more things and let you know what happens.

Thanks for the suggestion,
Don

I did some more experimentation. I "deleted" the printer in the Control
Panel and then rebooted the computer. On reboot, Windows recognized the
printer and made it available again. When this occurs, I don't know whether
Windows reinstalls the driver or not, but I can turn the printer on and off
with no problems now. I have tried it several times and shut down the
computer, re-booted with and without the printer turned on and - no
problems.

It had to be something with the driver or the way Windows was accessing it.
Regardless, it seems to work OK now and I hope it continues. Thanks for the
suggestion cvt. I never considered the driver to be the problem. It
sounded as if it was a power surge.

Thanks again
Don

 

[cvt]

Don Dunlap wrote:

I just bought one of these printers and it prints OK, but if I
turn it on after the computer has been turned on, it draws so
much current that it causes the computer to reboot. If I turn
it on and then turn on the computer, it works O.K.. The surge
when it is turned on is too much. Does anyone else have this
problem?

Not to that extreme, but reviews have noted its
higher-than-normal draw.
I took it off the power strip.


If you are in america things will be different, but on a 240v
Powersupply if the printer is causing such a power drop to make
the PSU trip you have a
serious issue somewhere in your wiring, either inside one of the
plugs, the
contacts on the plugs, or maybe even inside the wall going up to
that plug.

Are your power leads cold to the touch? What about the plugs?
Do the lights dim aswell when the printer is turned on, or is the
voltage drop localized mainly to the computer/printer?

I am in the US. I took the printer off the power strip and plugged
it into the wall plug and it still causes the problem.I have tried
it in two wall plugs also with the same problem. I did notice that
when it was plugged into the power strip that once it caused the
re-boot of the computer well after the printer had been running.
There was nothing noticeable happening and the printer was quiet
when this happened.

Maybe I do have a wiring problem, but I don't really think so. The
house is new, only two years old, and I have several peripherals
hooked up to the computer that is normally turned on with no
problems.
I turn all of this equipment off with the Samsung printer being
the
only peripheral turned on and the problem occurs. When I say
several peripherals, I mean a Canon printer, a scanner, two
external hard drives, a DSL modem, and naturally a monitor. I have
two lights on the desk, a phone with a power connector and a
battery charger attached to the same outlets served by a common
circuit breaker.

I believe that it is just a fault within the printer and I am going
to pursue returning it.

Don Dunlap




Something I should have thought of from the start..

Theres a high possibility its drivers...

-- Turn on the computer, at the bios push the "pause" button on the
keybaod, power the printer, see if it restarts.
alternatively
-- unplug the printer from the computer, and turn it on, see of the
computer reboots.]

You are on to something there. I just unplugged the USB connector
and turned on the printer. No problem with the computer - it didn't
reboot. I will check some more things and let you know what happens.

Thanks for the suggestion,
Don

I did some more experimentation. I "deleted" the printer in the
Control Panel and then rebooted the computer. On reboot, Windows
recognized the printer and made it available again. When this occurs,
I don't know whether Windows reinstalls the driver or not, but I can
turn the printer on and off with no problems now. I have tried it
several times and shut down the computer, re-booted with and without
the printer turned on and - no problems.

It had to be something with the driver or the way Windows was
accessing it. Regardless, it seems to work OK now and I hope it
continues. Thanks for the suggestion cvt. I never considered the
driver to be the problem. It sounded as if it was a power surge.

Thanks again
Don

No problem, good too hear its all better