Samsung ML-2010

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Hi guys
What I'm after is a laser printer with low cost per page (and I guess,
just generally low unit cost).

I am tempted to go with the Samsung ML-2010, but I really have no
clue.

PRINTING REQUIREMENTS
==================
In the near-term, I plan on printing:
1,000+ sheets. Over the longer-term, I guess within the first 6
months, I plan to print around 6,000+ sheets.

I expect to use the printer substantially less after this period is
over. Mostly lighter duty 'here-and-there' stuff
---

Keeping cost-per-sheet down is pretty important. Reliability is
important (I plan to keep it for at least 2 years, hopefully without
maintenance costs burning a hole in my wallet). I have no clue about
refills and whether or not they are worth bothering with. Or whether
this printer will even last through several refills. This is
completely new territory for me.

I noticed Samsung Australia are offering a free toner if purchased
before the end of March.
http://www.samsung.com/au/products/printerfaxcopysolutions/images/free_toner_promo.pdf

Should I be taking them up on this offer or should I be considering
other printers? Other printers that are perhaps more reliable and/or
cheaper to run for my uses?

Appreciate any advice.

 

[Jim McColl]

Hi guys
What I'm after is a laser printer with low cost per page (and I guess,
just generally low unit cost).

I am tempted to go with the Samsung ML-2010, but I really have no
clue.

PRINTING REQUIREMENTS
==================
In the near-term, I plan on printing:
1,000+ sheets. Over the longer-term, I guess within the first 6
months, I plan to print around 6,000+ sheets.

I expect to use the printer substantially less after this period is
over. Mostly lighter duty 'here-and-there' stuff
---

Keeping cost-per-sheet down is pretty important. Reliability is
important (I plan to keep it for at least 2 years, hopefully without
maintenance costs burning a hole in my wallet). I have no clue about
refills and whether or not they are worth bothering with. Or whether
this printer will even last through several refills. This is
completely new territory for me.

I noticed Samsung Australia are offering a free toner if purchased
before the end of March.
http://www.samsung.com/au/products/printerfaxcopysolutions/images/free_toner_promo.pdf

Should I be taking them up on this offer or should I be considering
other printers? Other printers that are perhaps more reliable and/or
cheaper to run for my uses?

Appreciate any advice.

This printer gets an overall rating of 7.0 on the CNet web site: here is the
URL:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Samsung_ML_2010/4505-3155_7-31408217.html?tag=pdtl-img

The HP 1020, which is in the same price range scores 8.6 on the same site:
http://reviews.cnet.com/HP_LaserJet_1020/4505-3159_7-31331166-2.html?tag=nav

I recently purchased the Hp 1020 and am very impressed with it. The deciding
factor for me, given the closeness in overall quality and price between
these two printers, was the cost of replacement cartridges. It is quite easy
to find 3rd party compatible cartridges for the HP, while I could not find
any for the Samsun ML 2010. This means the replacements for the Samsung
would cost approximately double the HP

 

[Davy]

Well, I have a Samsung ML1510, sure is an El' Cheapo printer but
real work horse, I've refilled the toner two or three times, I can d
this untill the drum wears

If you want info on how to do it have a peep at-
http://www.refill-toner.co.uk/index.htm

As you are aware the toners are not exactly cheap especially when the
contain the drum

Dav

 

[SleeperMan]

Hi guys
What I'm after is a laser printer with low cost per page (and I guess,
just generally low unit cost).

I am tempted to go with the Samsung ML-2010, but I really have no
clue.

PRINTING REQUIREMENTS
==================
In the near-term, I plan on printing:
1,000+ sheets. Over the longer-term, I guess within the first 6
months, I plan to print around 6,000+ sheets.

I expect to use the printer substantially less after this period is
over. Mostly lighter duty 'here-and-there' stuff
---

Keeping cost-per-sheet down is pretty important. Reliability is
important (I plan to keep it for at least 2 years, hopefully without
maintenance costs burning a hole in my wallet). I have no clue about
refills and whether or not they are worth bothering with. Or whether
this printer will even last through several refills. This is
completely new territory for me.

I noticed Samsung Australia are offering a free toner if purchased
before the end of March.
http://www.samsung.com/au/products/printerfaxcopysolutions/images/free_toner_promo.pdf

Should I be taking them up on this offer or should I be considering
other printers? Other printers that are perhaps more reliable and/or
cheaper to run for my uses?

Appreciate any advice.

i just bought Xerox 3117 which has Samsung 2010 toner unit and is half
priced. Perfect.

 

[Jim McColl]

Well, I have a Samsung ML1510, sure is an El' Cheapo printer but a
real work horse, I've refilled the toner two or three times, I can do
this untill the drum wears.

If you want info on how to do it have a peep at-:
http://www.refill-toner.co.uk/index.htm.

As you are aware the toners are not exactly cheap especially when they
contain the drum.

Davy

There is no drum on the HP 1020. The only parts that will need to be
replaced are: pickup roller $8.62 Canadian and printer separation pad $10.05
Canadian . New cartridges can be purchase for a little as $43.00 Canadian.

 

[whatcartridge.com]

Jim, Davy was talking about the cartridge, which DOES include the drum.
The ML1510 and the ML2010 also have a complete drum/toner cartridge.

James Sodor
www.whatcartridge.com

 

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i just bought Xerox 3117 which has Samsung 2010 toner unit and is half
priced. Perfect.

Can't seem to find that model in my neck of the woods. Can source the
Fuji-Xerox DocuPrint 203A that seems to run in the same price range as
the Samsung ML-2010 (it's about 15-20 bux cheaper than the Samsung).

I think I'll spend the next few days going through some reviews. Might
even opt to pay more for a more expensive unit 'cause it seems the
budget models work less before they need a top-up.

 

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I recently purchased the Hp 1020 and am very impressed with it. The deciding
factor for me, given the closeness in overall quality and price between
these two printers, was the cost of replacement cartridges. It is quite easy
to find 3rd party compatible cartridges for the HP, while I could not find
any for the Samsun ML 2010. This means the replacements for the Samsung
would cost approximately double the HP

The HP is in the running, thanks!

 

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Well, I have a Samsung ML1510, sure is an El' Cheapo printer but a
real work horse, I've refilled the toner two or three times, I can do
this untill the drum wears.
excellent


If you want info on how to do it have a peep at-:
http://www.refill-toner.co.uk/index.htm.

Good link.

As you are aware the toners are not exactly cheap especially when they
contain the drum.

Yeah. Still I'm a bit disappointed with the lower-end laser printers.
Might spend more to save me from refilling too often.

 

[SleeperMan]

Can't seem to find that model in my neck of the woods. Can source the
Fuji-Xerox DocuPrint 203A that seems to run in the same price range as
the Samsung ML-2010 (it's about 15-20 bux cheaper than the Samsung).

I think I'll spend the next few days going through some reviews. Might
even opt to pay more for a more expensive unit 'cause it seems the
budget models work less before they need a top-up.

to be honest, i didn't found it also at xerox support for drivers...either
it's totally off model or is totally new...
it's just...think twice before buy...like me...i almost bought 2010...but
with local reseller - we just couldn't see what is better in samsung to
justify 40 % bigger price (Ok, it has dust cover ), so i ended up with
xerox and---sucess! advices to me were don't buy lexmark...

 

[bulge]

to be honest, i didn't found it also at xerox support for drivers...either
it's totally off model or is totally new...
it's just...think twice before buy...like me...i almost bought 2010...but
with local reseller - we just couldn't see what is better in samsung to
justify 40 % bigger price (Ok, it has dust cover ), so i ended up with
xerox and---sucess! advices to me were don't buy lexmark...

Thanks SleeperMan
After some more in-depth investigation, I just placed an order for the
Kyocera FS-820. A tiny bit pricier, but the best value overall in my
neck of the woods, I think.

Reasons I chose it:

*drum life: 100,000 pages (I dislike the almost 'throwaway' drum life
of other printers)
*toner replacement (TK-110) last for 6,000 pages (Samsung ML-2010:
3,000 pages)
*bundled 'starter' toner starts at 3,000 pages (Samsung ML-2010: only
1,000 pages)
*under AU$200 (but about AU$25 more than the Samsung ML-2010)
*250-sheet input paper tray (Samsung ML-2010: 150 sheet)
*not a purely Windows printer like some cheapies
*seems to have the lowest cost per page for my needs
*has more memory than the competition for the price (16MB standard -
which is expandable, too - not that I'll need it). (Samsung ML-2010:
8MB, non-expandable).
*Has a network option - not that I'll need this either, but it's good
to know the printer seems to be built for those that tend to do
(seemingly) higher-volume stuff and are prepared to pay for the
networking add-on, too.
*manufacturer's duty cycle is more in line with what I like
*seems to be reviewed well

So, even with Samsung's 'free toner' promotion, I think I'm far better
off simply because Kyocera focus on longer life (and lower cost,
overall) printers and supplies. Time will tell whether this was a wise
or a stupid purchase, but I'm pretty confident it's my printer.

Don't know why Kyocera isn't discussed more around here, though.

Thanks all!

 

[me]

After some more in-depth investigation, I just placed an order for the
Kyocera FS-820. A tiny bit pricier, but the best value overall in my
neck of the woods, I think.

Reasons I chose it:

*drum life: 100,000 pages (I dislike the almost 'throwaway' drum life
of other printers)
*toner replacement (TK-110) last for 6,000 pages (Samsung ML-2010:
3,000 pages)
*bundled 'starter' toner starts at 3,000 pages (Samsung ML-2010: only
1,000 pages)
*under AU$200 (but about AU$25 more than the Samsung ML-2010)
*250-sheet input paper tray (Samsung ML-2010: 150 sheet)
*not a purely Windows printer like some cheapies
*seems to have the lowest cost per page for my needs
*has more memory than the competition for the price (16MB standard -
which is expandable, too - not that I'll need it). (Samsung ML-2010:
8MB, non-expandable).
*Has a network option - not that I'll need this either, but it's good
to know the printer seems to be built for those that tend to do
(seemingly) higher-volume stuff and are prepared to pay for the
networking add-on, too.
*manufacturer's duty cycle is more in line with what I like
*seems to be reviewed well

So, even with Samsung's 'free toner' promotion, I think I'm far better
off simply because Kyocera focus on longer life (and lower cost,
overall) printers and supplies. Time will tell whether this was a wise
or a stupid purchase, but I'm pretty confident it's my printer.

Don't know why Kyocera isn't discussed more around here, though.

If you search the posts on here you should find a few from me, mostly
about the A3 colour models. It is good that they seem to have lower
running costs and are apparently still built with the tank-like quality
of the earlier HPs.

 

[SleeperMan]

Thanks SleeperMan
After some more in-depth investigation, I just placed an order for the
Kyocera FS-820. A tiny bit pricier, but the best value overall in my
neck of the woods, I think.

Reasons I chose it:

*drum life: 100,000 pages (I dislike the almost 'throwaway' drum life
of other printers)
*toner replacement (TK-110) last for 6,000 pages (Samsung ML-2010:
3,000 pages)
*bundled 'starter' toner starts at 3,000 pages (Samsung ML-2010: only
1,000 pages)
*under AU$200 (but about AU$25 more than the Samsung ML-2010)
*250-sheet input paper tray (Samsung ML-2010: 150 sheet)
*not a purely Windows printer like some cheapies
*seems to have the lowest cost per page for my needs
*has more memory than the competition for the price (16MB standard -
which is expandable, too - not that I'll need it). (Samsung ML-2010:
8MB, non-expandable).
*Has a network option - not that I'll need this either, but it's good
to know the printer seems to be built for those that tend to do
(seemingly) higher-volume stuff and are prepared to pay for the
networking add-on, too.
*manufacturer's duty cycle is more in line with what I like
*seems to be reviewed well

So, even with Samsung's 'free toner' promotion, I think I'm far better
off simply because Kyocera focus on longer life (and lower cost,
overall) printers and supplies. Time will tell whether this was a wise
or a stupid purchase, but I'm pretty confident it's my printer.

Don't know why Kyocera isn't discussed more around here, though.

Thanks all!

it pays to do a bit research. I think you chose good...

 

[bulge]

If you search the posts on here you should find a few from me, mostly
about the A3 colour models. It is good that they seem to have lower
running costs and are apparently still built with the tank-like quality
of the earlier HPs.

Yeah. Just wanna say I got the unit yesterday afternoon and I'm very
pleased so far. The unit weighs 9KG, for starters. The Samsung weighs
in at 5.5KG. I would like to think that translates into a
higher-quality product in some way. If not, I'll imagine it does

That's without taking into account its better specs (such as
compactflash reader, more standard mem, expandable mem, linux support,
higher capacity input paper tray, drum life, toner life, etc).

Really pleased.
I plan to give it hell soon

 

[bulge]

it pays to do a bit research. I think you chose good...

The odds are looking good

I was pretty close to making an impulse buy, but I'm glad I gave it
some thought thanks to your post and others here. Cheers.

 

[aesthete8]

The following article may be helpful when coping with the
decision-making process of what to purchase:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/17/thought_for_thinkers/

 

[Arthur Entlich]

I don't know about A'dam, but here in BC if you want to buy a house, you
don't have time to "put it out of your mind and not think about it". If
you do, it will have been sold 3 days earlier. They have bidding wars
right in the midst of the Realtor's showing.

Art