running out of space.........I "guess"?

R

riogrande

I have a 120 GB drive with two partitions; C is 14 GB and has 155 mb left
according to disk management. D is the rest of the Hard drive and has 80 GB
left free. Sony Vaio media computer, running XP Home SP3 on a P4 at 2.66mhz
(prob TMI).
Anyway, a while back I moved all photos, etc to the D drive to save space on
C drive. But, things keep "growing" (sorta like having rabbits I guess) and
now the C drive is very full and methinks I should run defrag and all that,
but it won't run due to insufficient space.
I have gone through windows explorer to see if there are any other files to
move, but don't find any data files I haven't already moved. I run Quicken,
and assume that data is on the C drive and it may be big, but no other stuff
jumps out. Simple HP printer files, M/S updates and patches seem pretty big,
but once installed can they be blown away? and that is about it.
So, I "guess" I need to enlarge the C drive? If so, what is the recommended
way?
In reading these posts I see that there are a few opinions, but I'm
assuming I need to get partition magic or backup both drives (image copy? on
a new HD (pretty cheap)) and reinstall from the Sony disks and when doing
so...make the C drive 20 or 25 GB.
What say ye experts?
Thanks for the advice.......novice techie
 
T

Tim Meddick

Have you tried running the automatic 'disk cleanup wizard'?

Type :

cleanmgr.exe

....in to the "Run" box on your 'Start Menu' to start it.

Also, you could download and run the utility 'WinDirStat' that displays
all your files on the drive as couloured boxes sized according to how
much space they use up on the drive.

So you can tell-at-a-glance how and where all the space has gone on a
drive or partition.

You can download 'WinDirStat' from :

http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/windirstat/windirstat1_1_2_setup.exe



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

I have a 120 GB drive with two partitions; C is 14 GB and has 155 mb left
according to disk management. D is the rest of the Hard drive and has 80 GB
left free. Sony Vaio media computer, running XP Home SP3 on a P4 at 2.66mhz
(prob TMI).
Anyway, a while back I moved all photos, etc to the D drive to save space on
C drive. But, things keep "growing" (sorta like having rabbits I guess) and
now the C drive is very full and methinks I should run defrag and all that,


Defrag rearranges what's on the drive. It wouldn't save any space
there.

but it won't run due to insufficient space.
I have gone through windows explorer to see if there are any other files to
move, but don't find any data files I haven't already moved. I run Quicken,
and assume that data is on the C drive and it may be big, but no other stuff
jumps out. Simple HP printer files, M/S updates and patches seem pretty big,
but once installed can they be blown away?


If you "blow away" an update or patch, you would no longer have the
update or patch.

and that is about it.
So, I "guess" I need to enlarge the C drive?


14GB is very much on the small side.

If so, what is the recommended
way?
In reading these posts I see that there are a few opinions, but I'm
assuming I need to get partition magic or backup both drives (image copy? on
a new HD (pretty cheap)) and reinstall from the Sony disks and when doing
so...make the C drive 20 or 25 GB.
What say ye experts?


Yes, you can use Partition Magic, or some similar program. Partition
Magic is the best-known such program, but there are shareware/freeware
alternatives. One such program is BootIt Next Generation. It's
shareware, but comes with a free 30-day trial, so you should be able
to do what you want within that 30 days. I haven't used it myself
(because I've never needed to use *any* such program), but it comes
highly recommended by several other MVPs here.

But if it were me, instead of buying Partition Magic ($63 at
Amazon.com), I would buy and install a second drive; since you say
"things keep 'growing.' " you'll undoubtedly need it soon anyway. You
can get a 250GB drive for around the same price. It would come with
cloning software, and you could clone your C: drive to it, then make
it C:

That would give you

C: - 250GB
D: - 14GB
E: - the rest of your original drive.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

riogrande said:
I have a 120 GB drive with two partitions; C is 14 GB and has 155 mb left
according to disk management. D is the rest of the Hard drive and has 80
GB
left free. Sony Vaio media computer, running XP Home SP3 on a P4 at
2.66mhz
(prob TMI).
Anyway, a while back I moved all photos, etc to the D drive to save space
on
C drive. But, things keep "growing" (sorta like having rabbits I guess)
and
now the C drive is very full and methinks I should run defrag and all
that,
but it won't run due to insufficient space.
I have gone through windows explorer to see if there are any other files
to
move, but don't find any data files I haven't already moved. I run
Quicken,
and assume that data is on the C drive and it may be big, but no other
stuff
jumps out. Simple HP printer files, M/S updates and patches seem pretty
big,
but once installed can they be blown away? and that is about it.
So, I "guess" I need to enlarge the C drive? If so, what is the
recommended
way?
In reading these posts I see that there are a few opinions, but I'm
assuming I need to get partition magic or backup both drives (image copy?
on
a new HD (pretty cheap)) and reinstall from the Sony disks and when doing
so...make the C drive 20 or 25 GB.
What say ye experts?
Thanks for the advice.......novice techie

If this is a desktop PC then installing a second disk would be the simplest
solution.
 
G

Gerry

You can create more free space in C by
carrying any of the measures suggested below.

The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

A default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary internet
files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. The
default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to offline
copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select
Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to
make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history is
held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.

If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of
your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows
folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$
etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed
the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not
compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and
select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress
contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount
gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder
compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System
Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to
existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is
written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file.

You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of
folders.

For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet
Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder.

To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express
Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change.
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm

How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147

You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft
Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word
go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on
Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General
and change default file path.

My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders
including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated
using TweakUi. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to
see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change
Location button.

You can move programmes but to do this you have to uninstall and
reinstall.

Select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Gerry said:
You can create more free space in C by
carrying any of the measures suggested below.

The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

A default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary internet
files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. The
default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to offline
copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select
Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to
make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history is
held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.

If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of
your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows
folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$
etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed
the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not
compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and
select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress
contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount
gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder
compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System
Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to
existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is
written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file.

You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of
folders.

For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet
Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder.

To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express
Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change.
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm

How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147

You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft
Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word
go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on
Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General
and change default file path.

My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders
including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated
using TweakUi. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to
see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change
Location button.

You can move programmes but to do this you have to uninstall and
reinstall.

Select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Gerry

XP needs 20-25gb.. crippling the ability to store restore points is not a
particularly good idea..
 
R

riogrande

Thanks Tim,

disk cleanup not yielding anything of value....xp automatically asking me if
I wanted to run it many times in the last weeks as space got low.

downloaded the WinDirStat and will see if that produces any idea of what I
could "blow away"......yet tbd.

Thanks...
 
S

Shenan Stanley

riogrande said:
I have a 120 GB drive with two partitions; C is 14 GB and has 155
mb left according to disk management. D is the rest of the Hard
drive and has 80 GB left free. Sony Vaio media computer, running
XP Home SP3 on a P4 at 2.66mhz (prob TMI).
Anyway, a while back I moved all photos, etc to the D drive to save
space on C drive. But, things keep "growing" (sorta like having
rabbits I guess) and now the C drive is very full and methinks I
should run defrag and all that, but it won't run due to
insufficient space.
I have gone through windows explorer to see if there are any other
files to move, but don't find any data files I haven't already
moved. I run Quicken, and assume that data is on the C drive and
it may be big, but no other stuff jumps out. Simple HP printer
files, M/S updates and patches seem pretty big, but once installed
can they be blown away? and that is about it.
So, I "guess" I need to enlarge the C drive? If so, what is the
recommended way?
In reading these posts I see that there are a few opinions, but I'm
assuming I need to get partition magic or backup both drives (image
copy? on a new HD (pretty cheap)) and reinstall from the Sony disks
and when doing so...make the C drive 20 or 25 GB.
What say ye experts?
Thanks for the advice.......novice techie

A new drive - cloning to it and increasing the size of the C partition is
likely your best bet. Followed by the third-party partition editing
applications (like Partition Magic.)

You can try to free up space...

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
( Particularly of interest here - #4 )
( Alternative: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm )

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 64MB and 128MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

In the end - a standard Windows XP installation with all sorts of extras
will not likely be above about 4.5GB to 9GB in size. If you have more space
than that (likely do on a modern machine) and most of it seems to be used -
likely you need to move *your stuff* off and/or find a better way to manage
it.
 
D

Doum

I have a 120 GB drive with two partitions; C is 14 GB and has 155 mb
left according to disk management. D is the rest of the Hard drive
and has 80 GB left free. Sony Vaio media computer, running XP Home
SP3 on a P4 at 2.66mhz (prob TMI).
Anyway, a while back I moved all photos, etc to the D drive to save
space on C drive. But, things keep "growing" (sorta like having
rabbits I guess) and now the C drive is very full and methinks I
should run defrag and all that, but it won't run due to insufficient
space. I have gone through windows explorer to see if there are any
other files to move, but don't find any data files I haven't already
moved. I run Quicken, and assume that data is on the C drive and it
may be big, but no other stuff jumps out. Simple HP printer files,
M/S updates and patches seem pretty big, but once installed can they
be blown away? and that is about it. So, I "guess" I need to enlarge
the C drive? If so, what is the recommended way?
In reading these posts I see that there are a few opinions, but I'm
assuming I need to get partition magic or backup both drives (image
copy? on a new HD (pretty cheap)) and reinstall from the Sony disks
and when doing so...make the C drive 20 or 25 GB.
What say ye experts?
Thanks for the advice.......novice techie

Do you have a backup procedure?

If it was me, I would get an external USB hard drive (500 GB~1 TB) and a
program like Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost (I use both on different
computers and they both work OK). I would make an image of C and another
of D on the external hard drive.

Then I would boot with my Windows CD and repartition the internal hard
drive with the Windows installation program. I would make C 40 GB and the
rest of the drive would be D. I would abort the installation of Windows
after C and D are formatted.

I would then reboot with the Acronis True Image or Ghost CD and restore
the images made previously from the external HD.

Everything should be done in a couple of hours, creating the backup
images being the longest.

Once everything is back and running, you can backup everything may be
once a week on the external HD, the procedure can be automated.

HTH
Doum
 
G

Gerry

Mike

You're mistaken on several counts.

XP does not need 20-25gb. You are confusing the requirements of XP plus
pagefile plus programmes plus default folders like My Documents etc with
the requirements of the operating system. As long as there is free disk
space elsewhere you can run a problem free computer with much less than
20 gb. All that is needed is organisation. On this computer the used
space on C, including the pagefile, is 8.3 gb. It could be a lot less.

Using a computer on a daily basis makes it pointless retaining restore
points for more than 14 days. I regularly use Disk Cleanup to remove all
but the latest restore point. Restore points are most useful undoing a
change that has gone wrong. You do that within a day or two.

How does limiting space allocated to storing unnecessary historic
restore points amount to crippling System Restore? Your statement is
simply untrue! I was going to say gross exaggeration but that
understates your position.

Disk space utilisation and system restore are topics I have studied in
some depth over 10 years.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Gerry

Shenan

80 gb free disk space is some way from being short of disk space!


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Gerry said:
Mike

You're mistaken on several counts.

XP does not need 20-25gb. You are confusing the requirements of XP plus
pagefile plus programmes plus default folders like My Documents etc with
the requirements of the operating system. As long as there is free disk
space elsewhere you can run a problem free computer with much less than 20
gb. All that is needed is organisation. On this computer the used space on
C, including the pagefile, is 8.3 gb. It could be a lot less.

A "vanilla" installation of Windows XP requires about 6 GBytes. This does
not allow for various applications, service packs, Windows updates and the
many Windows Uninstall folders. To accommodate them the OP needs 15 GBytes
for the system partition. 20 GBytes would be a more comfortable value so
that he has room to accommodate his various programs and updates - assuming
all the time that he keeps all user files on a different partition.
 
G

Gerry

Pegasus

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. 8.3 gb = 10 gb! It could be a
lot less. It depends on whether or not you accept that certain system
defaults are over generous and where the pagefile is located. Programmes
and the pagefile can be accommodated elsewhere but mine aren't!

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
J

Jon

I've found that a vanilla installation, with SP3 and updates is much lower than that - more like
3GBytes. If you have lots of RAM it climbs due to the pagefile and (if enabled) the hibernation
file. I know people who've had XP for years, and still use less than 8GBytes on their hard drive.



Gerry said:
Mike

You're mistaken on several counts.

XP does not need 20-25gb. You are confusing the requirements of XP plus
pagefile plus programmes plus default folders like My Documents etc with
the requirements of the operating system. As long as there is free disk
space elsewhere you can run a problem free computer with much less than 20
gb. All that is needed is organisation. On this computer the used space on
C, including the pagefile, is 8.3 gb. It could be a lot less.

A "vanilla" installation of Windows XP requires about 6 GBytes. This does
not allow for various applications, service packs, Windows updates and the
many Windows Uninstall folders. To accommodate them the OP needs 15 GBytes
for the system partition. 20 GBytes would be a more comfortable value so
that he has room to accommodate his various programs and updates - assuming
all the time that he keeps all user files on a different partition.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Jon said:
I've found that a vanilla installation, with SP3 and updates is much lower
than that - more like
3GBytes. If you have lots of RAM it climbs due to the pagefile and (if
enabled) the hibernation
file. I know people who've had XP for years, and still use less than
8GBytes on their hard drive.

I know the same people too. They keep complaining about the lack of space on
their system drive and ask in this newsgroup what files they could delete to
create some elbowroom. Administrators with lots of time at their hands love
them because they absorb a lot of support time, thus creating the impression
that the admin is very, very busy. As a rough indication, my Windows folder
consumes 4.9 GBytes, which includes all automatic updates and uninstall
files. This leaves 3.1 GBytes for the Program Files folder, which is fine if
you restrict yourself to using notepad.exe as a word processor and calc.exe
as a spreadsheet.

Seeing that the cost of 1 GByte of disk space is less than $1.00, I wonder
why anyone would want to run his system with an 8 GByte system partition.
Just $10.00 would bump it up to 18 GBytes, which is not generous but at
least reasonable.
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Gerry said:
Mike

You're mistaken on several counts.

XP does not need 20-25gb. You are confusing the requirements of XP plus
pagefile plus programmes plus default folders like My Documents etc with
the requirements of the operating system. As long as there is free disk
space elsewhere you can run a problem free computer with much less than 20
gb. All that is needed is organisation. On this computer the used space on
C, including the pagefile, is 8.3 gb. It could be a lot less.

Using a computer on a daily basis makes it pointless retaining restore
points for more than 14 days. I regularly use Disk Cleanup to remove all
but the latest restore point. Restore points are most useful undoing a
change that has gone wrong. You do that within a day or two.

How does limiting space allocated to storing unnecessary historic restore
points amount to crippling System Restore? Your statement is simply
untrue! I was going to say gross exaggeration but that understates your
position.

Disk space utilisation and system restore are topics I have studied in
some depth over 10 years.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Gerry

The OP has ONE drive so the pagefile stays where it is..

There is little point in installing programs on a second drive because they
will need to be reinstalled in the event of a major crash anyway..

Reducing the capacity of XP to create minidumps or be able to defrag is
ridiculous when there is 80gb free on the second partition.

With that amount of space doing nothing, why make it difficult for XP or the
user?

Keep it simple is the best way for the majority of users..
 
G

Gerry

Pegasus

Trying to escape by going off topic <G>. The user seeking help has 80 gb
free disk space in a second partition on the drive! You have shares in
one or more companies manufacturing hard drives and or third party
partition managers <G>.


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Gerry

Mike

Relies inline.

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

Snipped
Gerry

The OP has ONE drive so the pagefile stays where it is..

I have not suggested moving the pagefile!
There is little point in installing programs on a second drive
because they will need to be reinstalled in the event of a major
crash anyway..

I have not suggested installing programmes on a second drive. At a pinch
this user could move a program to the second partition but I doubt that
is necessary.
Reducing the capacity of XP to create minidumps or be able to defrag
is ridiculous when there is 80gb free on the second partition.

I have not suggested moving the pagefile!
With that amount of space doing nothing, why make it difficult for XP
or the user?

How am I making it difficult for XP or the user? The suggestions I made
are simple to implement and overcome the problem without the need to
learn how to use third party tools or reinstall Windows XP.
Keep it simple is the best way for the majority of users..

We agree on that.


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

riogrande said:
Thanks Tim,

disk cleanup not yielding anything of value....xp automatically asking me
if
I wanted to run it many times in the last weeks as space got low.

downloaded the WinDirStat and will see if that produces any idea of what I
could "blow away"......yet tbd.

Thanks...


Backup your Quicken files to an external location, maybe a CD. Do the same
with any other application for which you have installation media.

Now uninstall the applications..

Download and run Easeus free version. Use it to extend your primary boot
partition to 25gb..

When done, re-install Quicken and anything else you uninstalled earlier, and
then restore your Quicken account from the backup you made..
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Gerry said:
Mike

Relies inline.

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

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I have not suggested moving the pagefile!


I have not suggested installing programmes on a second drive. At a pinch
this user could move a program to the second partition but I doubt that is
necessary.


I have not suggested moving the pagefile!


How am I making it difficult for XP or the user? The suggestions I made
are simple to implement and overcome the problem without the need to learn
how to use third party tools or reinstall Windows XP.


We agree on that.


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Gerry
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Stourport, England
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I am surprised that you didn't suggest manually resizing the pagefile,
especially as it would have more effect than what you suggested. At some
point, and it may as well be now, the OP is going to have to increase the
size of the primary partition or face the same problems a little further
down the road..
 

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