router question

M

mike

i have two router on one dsl modem.
a beklin wireless (primary) and a d-704p router off of it.

the di-link router has a printer server on it.

the beklin router is address 192.168.2.1
the di-link router address is 192.168.2.2

i can see the internet form both router. can also see the web server form
both router.
problem. i can not print to the server on the di-link router.
found the ip address of the printer server is 192.168.0.1

any ideas into how i can get the server to work?

the computers on the di-link router is a linux system and a ps3 system. the
beklin systen have windows based computers.
 
M

mike

ps i have found that the beklin router is blocking the printer spolling to
the di-link router.
shows up as a dos attack.
 
P

Pen

mike said:
ps i have found that the beklin router is blocking the printer spolling to
the di-link router.
shows up as a dos attack.
I think you'll have to put the print server onto the same subnet as the
routers, i.e. change its ip to 192.168.2.xxx
 
G

Grinder

Pen said:
I think you'll have to put the print server onto the same subnet as the
routers, i.e. change its ip to 192.168.2.xxx

Won't that invite traffic from internet pornographers?
 
K

kony

ps i have found that the beklin router is blocking the printer spolling to
the di-link router.
shows up as a dos attack.

How exactly do you have these two routers logically linked?

We can assume the Belkin has WAN port to modem. One of the
Belkin's LAN ports is going to the D-Link, is it going to
the D-Link's WAN port or one of it's LAN ports?

It should be going to the LAN port. How much have you
configured or reconfigured these two routers? Was either
your regular use router and then you added the second router
later? Do you have a preference for which IP range your LAN
uses?

Have you disabled the DHCP server function in one of these
two routers? (You should do that, disabling it in the
D-Link since the Belkin is the primary and therefore
presumably the one with it's WAN port connected to the
modem.

Are you using DHCP at all to assign addresses for the other
systems? We are missing a bit of background info on how you
wanted the whole thing set up, what you had previously, and
what you have tried thus far to get it to work.

Generally speaking you would in the fewest steps possible
disconnect the Belkin from the LAN momentarily, or at least
connect one system only to the D-Link and presuming it has
DHCP working still, that'll give the client system the
correct IP address to access the D-Link's HTTP configuration
menu where you can manually assign a different IP # for the
LAN instead of 192.168.0.1. Since the Belkin uses
192.168.2.1, I'm suspecting what you have done is hooked the
D-Link's WAN up to the Belkin's LAN. If so, undo that as
mentioned previously and as mentioned in this paragraph,
manually assign the IP number in the menu that was
192.168.0.1, to 192.168.2.2, and confirm the DHCP feature is
turned off for the D-Link.

This advice is made under the assumption you are not trying
to segregate two lans, that you are not needing the D-Link
to be a router, only a print server and perhaps also making
use of it's integral switch for the LAN ports, and as such
nothing will be hooked up to it's WAN port.
 
M

mike

kony said:
How exactly do you have these two routers logically linked?

beklin is primary the di-link is secondard. dhcp disabled in di-link.
We can assume the Belkin has WAN port to modem. One of the
Belkin's LAN ports is going to the D-Link, is it going to
the D-Link's WAN port or one of it's LAN ports?

correct. lan port.
It should be going to the LAN port. How much have you
configured or reconfigured these two routers? Was either
your regular use router and then you added the second router
later?

that is correct. added a second router.

Do you have a preference for which IP range your LAN

the beklin is the primary router. it sets the ip range. (dhcp turned on.)
Have you disabled the DHCP server function in one of these
two routers? (You should do that, disabling it in the
D-Link since the Belkin is the primary and therefore
presumably the one with it's WAN port connected to the
modem.
done.


Are you using DHCP at all to assign addresses for the other
systems?

yes.

We are missing a bit of background info on how you
wanted the whole thing set up, what you had previously, and
what you have tried thus far to get it to work.

everything works but the printer server on the di-link router, right now,
the di-link is basically a switcher.
the printer server i an having problems with.
Generally speaking you would in the fewest steps possible
disconnect the Belkin from the LAN momentarily, or at least
connect one system only to the D-Link and presuming it has
DHCP working still, that'll give the client system the
correct IP address to access the D-Link's HTTP configuration
menu where you can manually assign a different IP # for the
LAN instead of 192.168.0.1. Since the Belkin uses
192.168.2.1, I'm suspecting what you have done is hooked the
D-Link's WAN up to the Belkin's LAN. If so, undo that as
mentioned previously and as mentioned in this paragraph,
manually assign the IP number in the menu that was
192.168.0.1, to 192.168.2.2, and confirm the DHCP feature is
turned off for the D-Link.

This advice is made under the assumption you are not trying
to segregate two lans, that you are not needing the D-Link
to be a router, only a print server and perhaps also making
use of it's integral switch for the LAN ports, and as such
nothing will be hooked up to it's WAN port.

that is correct.

all system can connect to the internet.
i can also see the web server on both router for any systems.
i can see the other systems from any of the other computers. (not the ps3 of
course.)

i have try changing the lan address of both router (switch the last number
on each router so the d-link is 1 and beklin is 2.)
but i still can not print on the printer server.
(software for the di-link server is hard fixed to an address. 192.168.0.1
port 515)

sorry for not getting back to you. had to go out with a friend. he called at
the last minute.
 
M

mike

works like a charm.

thanks.

i did not know how to get past the firewall range of allowed ip address. it
would only allow from range 3 to 200. what i set on the router.
 
K

kony

i have try changing the lan address of both router (switch the last number
on each router so the d-link is 1 and beklin is 2.)
but i still can not print on the printer server.
(software for the di-link server is hard fixed to an address. 192.168.0.1
port 515)

I had used a D-Link 704 (not the -P version, it did not have
the printer server integral but was exactly the same - they
just left the parallel port socket off the PCB and hid the
feature in the firmware) for quite a while before I went
wireless a few years back, I am sure the 704 allows you to
change the default IP address from 192.168.0.1 to a
different range.

That is what you need to do. Because only the Belkin has
DHCP enabled you should do one of two things:

1) Manually set one system to the IP range and subnet mask
of the D-Link - 192.168.0.1 and 255.255.255.0

2) Connect one system direct to the LAN port of the D-Link,
or through a switch is ok too but not through the Belkin,
the Belkin has to be not on the same network at the time.
After connecting one system to the D-Link, use the factory
reset button on it (consult manual to see how long and when
to press the button, possibly having to hold it in for 10
seconds when power is turned on). If you reset it that
enabled DHCP again to issue the IP # instead of having to
manually assign it to the connected PC, at which point you
should be able to enter the HTTP interface, change the
default IP address from 192.168.0.1 to
192.168.2.(something), disable DHCP if you had reset the
firmware, save the settings and reboot the D-Link.

Now hooking everything back up and setting the PC back to
auto/DHCP again if that were changed, your D-Link should no
longer have 192.168.0.1 IP address on it's LAN port.

If this much does not work, I would check the D-Link manual.
If you don't have it, that may be on D-link's website. If
it is not there let me know and I might have a copy of it
archived somewhere.
 

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