RIS and IBM thinkcentre


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neilalastair

I have an IBM thinkcentre 8143, quite a lot of them.

I have been trying to deploy the OS via RIS on a windows 2000 SP4 server.

I cannot get the network drivers to install properly dispite installing the
correct drivers on RIS. I have done this a number of times on Compaq boxes
so I like to think i know what im doing here.

The result appears to be that the IBM machine is picking up a network driver
but not the correct one. It uses it to get the OS on but then this drivers
fails to install properly and there is no network conenction afterwards.

What I would really like to do is sysprep the machine and then load an image
from the machine to RIS.

I have been trying to use Norton Ghost 2003 (9) But not getting very far as
the proceedure on the symantic website refers to v7 and 8 which seem to have
different setups.

Can I actually use Norton Ghost 9

Is there a better package to be using?
many thanks for any assistance you can give
 
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| I have an IBM thinkcentre 8143, quite a lot of them.
|
| I have been trying to deploy the OS via RIS on a windows 2000 SP4 server.
|
| I cannot get the network drivers to install properly dispite installing the
| correct drivers on RIS. I have done this a number of times on Compaq boxes
| so I like to think i know what im doing here.
|
| The result appears to be that the IBM machine is picking up a network driver
| but not the correct one. It uses it to get the OS on but then this drivers
| fails to install properly and there is no network conenction afterwards.
|
| What I would really like to do is sysprep the machine and then load an image
| from the machine to RIS.
|
| I have been trying to use Norton Ghost 2003 (9) But not getting very far as
| the proceedure on the symantic website refers to v7 and 8 which seem to have
| different setups.
|
| Can I actually use Norton Ghost 9
|
| Is there a better package to be using?
| many thanks for any assistance you can give
 
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Guest

neilalastair said:
I have an IBM thinkcentre 8143, quite a lot of them.

I have been trying to deploy the OS via RIS on a windows 2000 SP4 server.

I cannot get the network drivers to install properly dispite installing the
correct drivers on RIS. I have done this a number of times on Compaq boxes
so I like to think i know what im doing here.

The result appears to be that the IBM machine is picking up a network driver
but not the correct one. It uses it to get the OS on but then this drivers
fails to install properly and there is no network conenction afterwards.

In other words, the OS fully installs and it joins to your domain, but then
when you reboot for the first time.... what happens?

Or do you mean the OS fully installs, but the PC never joins your domain,
and at about 34 minutes remaining it stops and shows an error message?

Or do you mean that the NIC is never set up correctly, yet RIS XP Setup is
still able to finish correctly?

Please provide more information.

Also make sure the driver the ThinkPad requires is in i386 and also in the
oempnpdrivers= folder (or subfolders), too.
 
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neilalastair

In other words, the OS fully installs and it joins to your domain, but
then
when you reboot for the first time.... what happens?

Or do you mean the OS fully installs, but the PC never joins your domain,
and at about 34 minutes remaining it stops and shows an error message?

Or do you mean that the NIC is never set up correctly, yet RIS XP Setup is
still able to finish correctly?

Please provide more information.

Also make sure the driver the ThinkPad requires is in i386 and also in the
oempnpdrivers= folder (or subfolders), too.

Many thanks for you reply it is the acse the NIC is never set up correctly,
yet RIS XP Setup is still able to finish correctly, due to this the PC fails
to koin the domain.

It is like it uses a driver to install the OS completely but this same
driver is not good enough to join the PC to the domain.

thank you
neil
 
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Guest

In that case, the driver you've placed in i386 (the .inf and .sys) are fine,
so RIS works. The problem is with the driver you put in $oem$ (or, perhaps,
the driver you *didn't* put in $OEM$.) Post your RISTNDRD.SIF file you're
using, especially the OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH= line (remove any serial number
information), and then post what the directory structure looks like under
$OEM$.

Typically you'll have something like: OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH=vid\radeon,
vid\nvidia, chip\intel875, chip\intel830, sound\CLABS (and so forth), and
then within the $OEM$ directory you'll have $oem$\vid\radeon (and so forth),
and inside the Radeon directory you'd have all files associated with the
Radeon cards.

In your case, you'd want something like $oem$\nic\<card-brand>, and you'd
put all of that NIC's drivers into the <card-brand> folder.
 
G

Guest

In that case, the driver you've placed in i386 (the .inf and .sys) are fine,
so RIS works. The problem is with the driver you put in $oem$ (or, perhaps,
the driver you *didn't* put in $OEM$.) Post your RISTNDRD.SIF file you're
using, especially the OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH= line (remove any serial number
information), and then post what the directory structure looks like under
$OEM$.

Typically you'll have something like: OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH=vid\radeon,
vid\nvidia, chip\intel875, chip\intel830, sound\CLABS (and so forth), and
then within the $OEM$ directory you'll have $oem$\vid\radeon (and so forth),
and inside the Radeon directory you'd have all files associated with the
Radeon cards.

In your case, you'd want something like $oem$\nic\<card-brand>, and you'd
put all of that NIC's drivers into the <card-brand> folder.
 
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Guest

Could you please verify the directory structure for the location of OEM
drivers on the RIS server, I have been using:
RemoteInstall\Setup\Language\Images\Dir_name\$OEM$\$1\

which i might add has not been working during the PnP section of OS build
after the text mode file copy process, this could be why
 
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neilalastair

In that case, the driver you've placed in i386 (the .inf and .sys) are
fine,
so RIS works. The problem is with the driver you put in $oem$ (or,
perhaps,
the driver you *didn't* put in $OEM$.) Post your RISTNDRD.SIF file you're
using, especially the OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH= line (remove any serial number
information), and then post what the directory structure looks like under
$OEM$.

Typically you'll have something like: OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH=vid\radeon,
vid\nvidia, chip\intel875, chip\intel830, sound\CLABS (and so forth), and
then within the $OEM$ directory you'll have $oem$\vid\radeon (and so
forth),
and inside the Radeon directory you'd have all files associated with the
Radeon cards.

In your case, you'd want something like $oem$\nic\<card-brand>, and you'd
put all of that NIC's drivers into the <card-brand> folder.
Ok here it is in all its glory. Im pretty sure I have copied all the
relevant nic drivers to the nic folder. I do tend to over write the older
one with the newer ones. As I get them.

If anyone has an idiots guide to ris I could really do with one right now!!





[data]
floppyless = "1"
msdosinitiated = "1"
OriSrc = "\\%SERVERNAME%\RemInst\%INSTALLPATH%\%MACHINETYPE%"
OriTyp = "4"
LocalSourceOnCD = 1
DisableAdminAccountOnDomainJoin = 1

[SetupData]
OsLoadOptions = "/noguiboot /fastdetect"
SetupSourceDevice =
"\Device\LanmanRedirector\%SERVERNAME%\RemInst\%INSTALLPATH%"

[Unattended]

OemPreinstall = yes
DriverSigningPolicy = Ignore
OemPnpDriversPath =
"\Drivers\Nic;\Drivers\Audio_d230;\Drivers\Audio_d530;\Drivers\Audio_IBM_6794-11G;\drivers\Audio_dx2000;\Drivers\INF_IBM_6794-11G;\Drivers\Video;\Drivers\usb;Drivers\Chipset_dx2000;Drivers\Audio_thinkpad_R51"
KeyboardLayout = "United Kingdom"
NoWaitAfterTextMode = 0
FileSystem = LeaveAlone
ExtendOEMPartition = 0
ConfirmHardware = no
NtUpgrade = no
Win31Upgrade = no
TargetPath = \WINNT
OverwriteOemFilesOnUpgrade = no
OemSkipEula = yes
InstallFilesPath = "\\%SERVERNAME%\RemInst\%INSTALLPATH%\%MACHINETYPE%"

[UserData]
FullName = "%USERFIRSTNAME% %USERLASTNAME%"
OrgName = "%ORGNAME%"
ComputerName = %MACHINENAME%
ProductKey=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx

[GuiUnattended]
OemSkipWelcome = 1
OemSkipRegional = 1
TimeZone = 085
AdminPassword = "xxxxxxxx"

[LicenseFilePrintData]
AutoMode = PerSeat

[Display]

ConfigureAtLogon = 1
BitsPerPel = 32
XResolution = 1024
YResolution = 768
VRefresh = 75
AutoConfirm = 1


[Shell]
DefaultStartPanelOff = Yes
DefaultThemesOff = Yes

[RegionalSettings]
InputLocale=0809:00000809 ;English (United Kingdom)
Language=1 ;English
LanguageGroup=1 ;English
SystemLocale=00000809 ;United Kingdom
UserLocale=00000809 ;United Kingdom

[Networking]
ProcessPageSections=Yes

[Identification]
JoinDomain = %MACHINEDOMAIN%
CreateComputerAccountInDomain = No
DoOldStyleDomainJoin = Yes

[NetProtocols]
MS_TCPIP=params.MS_TCPIP

[params.MS_TCPIP]
; transport: TC (TCP/IP Protocol)
InfID=MS_TCPIP
DHCP=Yes

[NetClients]
MS_MSClient=params.MS_MSClient

[params.MS_MSClient]
InfID=MS_MSClient

[NetServices]
MS_Server=params.MS_Server

[params.MS_Server]
; service: SRV (Server)
InfID=MS_Server
BroadcastsToLanman2Clients = No

[ServicesSection]

[RemoteInstall]
Repartition = Yes
UseWholeDisk = Yes

[OSChooser]
Description ="Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (C)nh march2005"
Help ="Automatically installs Windows Professional XP without prompting the
user for input."
LaunchFile = "%INSTALLPATH%\%MACHINETYPE%\templates\startrom.com"
ImageType =Flat
Version="5.0"
 
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Guest

Neil,

Where are your NIC's drivers? In drivers\nic? Also, please tell me the
specific model of NIC the problematic machine has, and then also list the
contents of that directory (that the NIC drivers are contained in). There
should at least be a *.SYS and *.INF file in that directory. Since it's only
the IBMs that have this problem (and the other NICs in other PCs work), focus
on getting the latest drivers that you know work on the IBM - test them on a
Thinkpad that's already set up, identify the right SYS and INF files, and
then put them into the NIC directory.

I still need the directory details - what does your directory structure look
like?



neilalastair said:
In that case, the driver you've placed in i386 (the .inf and .sys) are
fine,
so RIS works. The problem is with the driver you put in $oem$ (or,
perhaps,
the driver you *didn't* put in $OEM$.) Post your RISTNDRD.SIF file you're
using, especially the OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH= line (remove any serial number
information), and then post what the directory structure looks like under
$OEM$.

Typically you'll have something like: OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH=vid\radeon,
vid\nvidia, chip\intel875, chip\intel830, sound\CLABS (and so forth), and
then within the $OEM$ directory you'll have $oem$\vid\radeon (and so
forth),
and inside the Radeon directory you'd have all files associated with the
Radeon cards.

In your case, you'd want something like $oem$\nic\<card-brand>, and you'd
put all of that NIC's drivers into the <card-brand> folder.
Ok here it is in all its glory. Im pretty sure I have copied all the
relevant nic drivers to the nic folder. I do tend to over write the older
one with the newer ones. As I get them.

If anyone has an idiots guide to ris I could really do with one right now!!





[data]
floppyless = "1"
msdosinitiated = "1"
OriSrc = "\\%SERVERNAME%\RemInst\%INSTALLPATH%\%MACHINETYPE%"
OriTyp = "4"
LocalSourceOnCD = 1
DisableAdminAccountOnDomainJoin = 1

[SetupData]
OsLoadOptions = "/noguiboot /fastdetect"
SetupSourceDevice =
"\Device\LanmanRedirector\%SERVERNAME%\RemInst\%INSTALLPATH%"

[Unattended]

OemPreinstall = yes
DriverSigningPolicy = Ignore
OemPnpDriversPath =
"\Drivers\Nic;\Drivers\Audio_d230;\Drivers\Audio_d530;\Drivers\Audio_IBM_6794-11G;\drivers\Audio_dx2000;\Drivers\INF_IBM_6794-11G;\Drivers\Video;\Drivers\usb;Drivers\Chipset_dx2000;Drivers\Audio_thinkpad_R51"
KeyboardLayout = "United Kingdom"
NoWaitAfterTextMode = 0
FileSystem = LeaveAlone
ExtendOEMPartition = 0
ConfirmHardware = no
NtUpgrade = no
Win31Upgrade = no
TargetPath = \WINNT
OverwriteOemFilesOnUpgrade = no
OemSkipEula = yes
InstallFilesPath = "\\%SERVERNAME%\RemInst\%INSTALLPATH%\%MACHINETYPE%"

[UserData]
FullName = "%USERFIRSTNAME% %USERLASTNAME%"
OrgName = "%ORGNAME%"
ComputerName = %MACHINENAME%
ProductKey=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx

[GuiUnattended]
OemSkipWelcome = 1
OemSkipRegional = 1
TimeZone = 085
AdminPassword = "xxxxxxxx"

[LicenseFilePrintData]
AutoMode = PerSeat

[Display]

ConfigureAtLogon = 1
BitsPerPel = 32
XResolution = 1024
YResolution = 768
VRefresh = 75
AutoConfirm = 1


[Shell]
DefaultStartPanelOff = Yes
DefaultThemesOff = Yes

[RegionalSettings]
InputLocale=0809:00000809 ;English (United Kingdom)
Language=1 ;English
LanguageGroup=1 ;English
SystemLocale=00000809 ;United Kingdom
UserLocale=00000809 ;United Kingdom

[Networking]
ProcessPageSections=Yes

[Identification]
JoinDomain = %MACHINEDOMAIN%
CreateComputerAccountInDomain = No
DoOldStyleDomainJoin = Yes

[NetProtocols]
MS_TCPIP=params.MS_TCPIP

[params.MS_TCPIP]
; transport: TC (TCP/IP Protocol)
InfID=MS_TCPIP
DHCP=Yes

[NetClients]
MS_MSClient=params.MS_MSClient

[params.MS_MSClient]
InfID=MS_MSClient

[NetServices]
MS_Server=params.MS_Server

[params.MS_Server]
; service: SRV (Server)
InfID=MS_Server
BroadcastsToLanman2Clients = No

[ServicesSection]

[RemoteInstall]
Repartition = Yes
UseWholeDisk = Yes

[OSChooser]
Description ="Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (C)nh march2005"
Help ="Automatically installs Windows Professional XP without prompting the
user for input."
LaunchFile = "%INSTALLPATH%\%MACHINETYPE%\templates\startrom.com"
ImageType =Flat
Version="5.0"
 

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