Reset Network Adapter

[Chuck]

Ever since installing Vista Home Premium, I have found that on bootup,
I may or may not be able to access the internet.

When no connection is made through my ADSL router, (which is able to
access as demonstrated on another machine running XP) firing up IE7
results in a message saying it was unable to connect to the internet
and offering to "Diagnose the Problem".

If I run the "Diagnose" it always comes up with a couple of options,
one of which is "Reset the Network Adapter"

If i do that, then it always fixes the problem.

Question is why does that happen, and is there any alternative to
firing up IE7 and going through the Diagnose/Reset routine?

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Network Adapter driver,
but no change.

Any ideas?

 

[Guest]

Do you wait before connecting. Windows boots to the desktop before it has
finished loading, This makes it seem quicker, but many parts aren't actually
loaded yet.
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[Chuck]

Well "I" don't wait, but then I don't initiate anything either.

As part of the bootup process, I have a couple of programs that start
with Windows and they access the internet eg MSN Messenger, Mailwasher
etc.

I guess they could be firing up before Vista is ready to accept data,
but that seems a bit crazy. XP doesn't have that problem.

And why would that require the Network Adapter to be reset?

Surely this is an issue that must be affecting other users - in fact I
am sure I have seen past headers on this issue, but didn't take too
much notice.

 

[Guest]

I have to wait a minute to connect, Same on XP as well. Because I changed
all delay load to automatic I don't know what the factory settings are (and
I'm not going to reinstall vista just to look - you look at yours which does
have factory settings). Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools
Services then

Select anything, Ctrl + Plus on Numberpad (this makes columns readable - you
have to do this every visit)

Sort by clicking Startup Type column

Are any of these network related? Try setting them to Automatic.

Automatic - loads as soon as it can
Delay Load - waits a little bit (that's technical talk - little bit)
Manual - waits for a user or program to want it then starts. Some faulty
programs like Defender can't do this.
Disabled - Can't be started by users or programs

 

[Chuck]

Could be onto something there.

I have checked through the services and anything Internet related that
was set to manual and was started (which means it was needed in some
way) I have reset to automatic.

I'll see how it goes and report back after a few bootups.

Thanks for the advice.

Chuck

 

[Chuck]

Well that didn't work - anything Internet related was set to
"Automatic" and on first reboot didn't have internet connection and
had to "Reset Network adapter"

I really think this is some sort of flaw within Vista.

I can work around it, but it is annoying as hell.

 

[Guest]

Are you waiting a minute anyway. Those Automatic ones are queued so it still
takes time for them to start. I'm of the opinion that this is just to make
computer look a quicker booter, as you have to wait a minute to use it
(unless editing text files is your thing).

I'm on USB so I get a dialup dialog to connect. About 60% of the computer is
hung waiting for the internet connection (not that I asked anything to
connect - the stock chart gadget is my suspect as I've turned nearly
everything else off). After a minute the connect dialog pops up, then the
password dialog and I'm online and booted.

Anything network has 2 standard steps to take that solves the top two issues
(according to MS and probably based on stats from tech support).
Check wires and connection. This is most frequent solution.
Secondly most frequent is to update drivers.

But I'm not sure you have a problem. As this is a vibe thing of where
reasonableness vs unreasonableness. But you are there and I'm not and you
feel the vibe, I just try to imagine it.

 

[Guest]

I am using a Cat5 cable to a router in vista home edition, with XP on the
other computer, and it takes about 1-2 minutes for the internet to be
connected after desktop first loads. The icon is down near the clock. You
will see the red cross on it disappear once you are connected, and running
your cursor over it will show that you are connected to local and internet
network

 

[Chuck]

Just did a reboot so that I could wait for a minute to see if I became
connected , but wouldn't you know it, I was instantly connected.

This is what i find strange - about 50% of the time, I am connected
staright away and the other 50 - no connection.

Next time that happens I'll wait for minute to see if I do become
connected.

I am on a Cat5 connection to an "always on" router, as is my other
computer running XP. It never has a problem, and indeed neither does
this one when I fire up XP on my other partition. So I' am quite sure
there is nothing physical like a loose connection causing the problem.
It is a Vista quirk.

 

[Chuck]

Mick, you say "The icon is down near the clock."

Just what Icon is that? The tell tale for me that i am not connected
is the MSN Messenger icon showing a red cross (also in the system
tray) and the fact that Maiwasher repotts that it cannot connect to my
mail server.

But i don't have any specific Internet connection icon.

Did have in the old dial up days, but not with adsl.

 

[Chuck]

Messenger tries to connect, but fails - thats how I know I don't have
a connection.

Firefox is my default browser, and no it doesn't connect until I reset
the network adapter. I only use IE7 because I found by accident, that
it has the facility to "diagnose the problem". Firefox doesn't do
that.

 

[Guest]

If you ever expect hardware has gone wonky (a lot of components have their
own small cpu and something like code - they can crash). Turn off the
computer at the powerpoint for 10 seconds. That deprives everything of power
forcing everything to do a hard reset. Some cards don't do hard resets on
just the power button. It's always good to eliminate the simple.

There is a boot monitor of sorts in Control Panel\Performance Information
and Tools. I can't find the advanced button on mine. I used ut before. This
is why menus are an essential part of a gui. I found it. What a dog of an
interface. Scroll down to bottom of page, Choose Generate A System Health
Report. Somewhere in this mess that you'll see in 60 seconds will be
something about boot times. I stuffed that I can find it there. But I know
that ReasyBoost decreased boot times for something by a second. I was
impressed but not looking for that at the time. Hunt around.

 

[Dave]

right-click on Taskbar - Properties - Notification Area - System Icons -
check Network

 

[Daze N. Knights]

Mick, you say "The icon is down near the clock."

Just what Icon is that? The tell tale for me that i am not connected
is the MSN Messenger icon showing a red cross (also in the system
tray) and the fact that Maiwasher repotts that it cannot connect to my
mail server.

But i don't have any specific Internet connection icon.

Did have in the old dial up days, but not with adsl.

 

[Chuck]

Sorry you have the same issue, but glad to hear that it is not just
me.

I have tried every suggestion offered, but the problem persists. Still
erratic, probably happens on 1 out of every 3 or 4 startups.

I plan to try a different network card, but after that I am stumped.

 

[Chuck]

have you setup static ip addy or do you let vista do it automatically

No static IP address

also are you downloading anything on the xp machine with the ports
forwarded in the router
No

and next time this happens go in to the router and reboot it and see if
that fixes your connection without reseting the nic adaptor in your
machine

Router has been rebooted many many times - however not at the time of
problem, so will try that.

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

[Guest]

I have the same problem, with a slight difference I have two computers, one
was an upgrade from XP to Vista Premium and the other is a New Machine with
Vista Premium installed. Both are connected to the same Billion Modem/Router,
the old computer connects to the Internet with out any problems. The New one
has to have the Network Adapter Reset every time that I switch on to use.
It really is a pain having to do this all the time. I usually Click on
Start, then Network, then diagnose and repair. With the price they ask for
Vista, I should not really have to do this every time. We all would
appreciate some help.
aussietaff

 

[Ian Betts]

I have the same problem, with a slight difference I have two computers, one
was an upgrade from XP to Vista Premium and the other is a New Machine
with
Vista Premium installed. Both are connected to the same Billion
Modem/Router,
the old computer connects to the Internet with out any problems. The New
one
has to have the Network Adapter Reset every time that I switch on to use.
It really is a pain having to do this all the time. I usually Click on
Start, then Network, then diagnose and repair. With the price they ask for
Vista, I should not really have to do this every time. We all would
appreciate some help.
aussietaff

Then you have not set it up correctly. Vista like XP saves the connection
details. Are you Ethernet connecting both or one on Wireless?

I suggest you start from scratch with your new Computer Lan settings. Delete
them all first.

 

[Guest]

I AM HAVING THE STRESSFULL PROBLEM OF RESETTING MY NETWORK ADAPTER AT LEAST
TEN {10
} TIMES A DAY, OR MORE. NO JOKE !. MY NEW HP VISTA HOME BASIC IS ONLY TWO
{2} MONTHS OLD. MY ISP PRACTICALLY KNOWS ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE I CALL SO
OFTEN TO GET BACK ONLINE. MY INTERNET EXPLOYER BROWSER ALWAYS STOPS WORKING.
I HAVE AT LEAST SEVENTY {70} INSTANCES OF THIS PROBLEM WITHIN A TWO {2} WEEK
INTERVAL; WITH NO SOLUTION IN SIGHT. I AM DESPERATE, PLEASE HELP BEFORE I ASK
HP FOR A REFUND ! ! !

 

[Guest]

You are not alone, I am having the same difficulty. Random disconnection from
the internet, with the resolution of having to reset the network adaptor. I
purchased a brand new HP a couple of weeks ago with Vista ultimate pre
installed.

This issue is driving me crazy. I have tried the official solution

"1. Open Network Connections by clicking the Start button , clicking
Control Panel, clicking Network and Internet, clicking Network and Sharing
Center, and then clicking Manage network connections.

2. Right-click the connection, and then click Properties. If you are
prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or
provide confirmation.

3. On the Networking tab, click Configure.

4. On the Power Management tab, clear the Allow the computer to turn off
this device to save power check box, and then click OK."

But that doesn't work either. After seeing all the posts regarding this
issue, what has Microsoft got to say?

Phlebas