Remote Assistance for novice with XP to expert with Vista

[urbanmicro]

What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to
successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance?

I support friends and family via RA. In the XP to XP world I found that
using Live Messenger was generally reliable. I have now upgraded to Vista
Ultimate. I get a variety of failue scenarios trying to accept invitations
now. No successes.

Most commonly, I get one of the following:
1. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice in Messenger that I
have accepted, but nothing else happens on either computer.
2. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice and a dialog box to
grant sharing permission. I get an indication that I am viewing the novice
desktop, but my screen is black.
3. I accept, the novice gets a notice in Messenger and I get an indication
that an attempt is being made. Eventually times out saying novice must have
stepped away from computer.

I can deal with firewalls, registries, and more. I find lots of snippets
here and there that give me clues, but can't find my way to a definitive
approach.

Can someone point me to a KB article or something else that could answer
this simple question.... What are the things that an expert running Vista
needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance?


-=Rich=-

 

[cheen]

forget all that... and use www.crossloop.com

you can thank me later for this tip...

2 things you must have in mind, disable UAC and Defender before the session,
since these have some problems with crossloop

 

[AlexB]

Disabling UAC is an invitation fro a disaster and most likely is given by a
malware writer.

people using remote desktop and remote assistance with Vista and Vista/XP.
It is not easy but doable.

Most likely your accounts or or permissions are set incorrectly.

Just do some research.

 

[AlexB]

He will thank you for the tip when his private information will be stolid
from his computer with your "free Trojan horse."

 

[Mark R. Cusumano]

I use Remote Assistance to help XP users from my Vista machine but I use the
email method. If they have Outlook Express I tell them to pick the email
option if not I have them pick the Create a File option and email it to me
with whatever they use for email. Have never had a problem connecting.

 

[cheen]

you are an ignorant, computer illiterate idiot!

You are number one DUMBO of this newsgroup.

I would insult you more but I dont even want to waste that time on you

 

[urbanmicro]

cheen,
I side with AlexB in this one and don't see how insulting people is helpful.
My first thought when I read your suggestion is that disabling or crippling
existing protections is exactly what I don't want to do. And I have been
working with PCs and networks since they were still called micro-computers
and Ethernet and Novell were still in beta testing.

I didn't even waste time looking into "crossloop".

-=Rich=-

 

[urbanmicro]

Mark,
Are you using Vista against XP novices?

Independent of this particular challenge, I had trouble with email
invitations due either to NAT or DHCP IP address changes in the past. Was
having pretty good luck with Messenger until this. Your suggestion is worth
a try.

I'll keep digging until I solve this one way or another.
-=Rich=-

 

[cheen]

ok.. you will look at it again when in several months it will be number one
application for support

BUT I am sure you still will be saying.. No I dont want crossloop

I wish you will never use it.. LOL


But you will

 

[On the Bridge]

AlexB makes satan look like an angel.. the more you insult him its just
describing his true nature better

Crossloop uses VNC a standard in networking and remote control of
computers...

its not crossloop that is strange, its STUPID VISTA that things VNC is a
threat, and UAC that throws the VNC user offline.

The advice is correct, but its better that you dont benefit from it, since
you are such a stinking snob!

 

[Mark R. Cusumano]

Yes, I am on a Vista Laptop and the people I am helping are on XP machines.
Most of them are using webmail and do use either Outlook Express or
Messenger so their only option is to create the Invitation File and email it
to me through their webmail or whatever mail reader they are using. So far
I have had no problems. I have tried with with all combinations or
router/routerless connections (ie neither side is behind a router, both
sides are behind a router, one or the other side is behind a router) and
haven't had any problems but then again the routers didn't have any unusual
settings in them.

 

[On the Bridge]

you suck

go away

you cant even help yourself... let alone other people...

let them now you are incompetent and an idiot before they let you mess up
their computers

 

[PAT]

I agree with Mark. I use the same method between Vista and XP.
However, I've stuck with telling the person on the XP machine to use
their regular email program and have not had anyone contact me via Express.