registry cleaner

[Guest]

hello i need help to solve this problem in windows live onecare scaner was
been found 2 invalid registry ,and 1 i use at long time oneclik that one
found 166 invalid registry ,i download uniblue registryboost and we found 491
invalid registry ,this all about becouse my computer crash , programes stop
midle of tasks,is any thing i can change for improve my computer performance
,many thanks.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

hello i need help to solve this problem in windows live onecare scaner was
been found 2 invalid registry ,and 1 i use at long time oneclik that one
found 166 invalid registry ,i download uniblue registryboost and we found
491
invalid registry ,this all about becouse my computer crash , programes
stop
midle of tasks,is any thing i can change for improve my computer
performance
,many thanks.

I suspect that your computer's unstable performance is caused
by you using a registry "cleaner". Do not use them. At best they
do not deliver any benefit; at worst they cripple your machine.
In your case you probably have to reload Windows and re-install
all applications. Remember to save your important files and your
EMail to an independent medium first.

 

[Newbie Coder]

Monteiro,

Never, never, never use a reg cleaner!!

 

[John]

Monteiro,

Never, never, never use a reg cleaner!!

OK, so you've both stated 'not to use a reg cleaner'.

Now please tell us why.

John.

 

[R. McCarty]

Because they ( Registry Cleaners ) don't have the ability to make a
absolute determination of what can be safely removed beyond things
like MRU ( Most Recently Used ) lists and temporary workspace
type entries.

Load up 3 Registry Cleaners and let them scan your system but do
not allow them to remove entries. You'll find that each will show you
a different list of what they consider safe to remove.

The Registry is a complex and highly interdependent association of
Keys and values. It's very easy to break one of those associations. The
result may not appear immediately but days or weeks after the cleaner
is run.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

OK, so you've both stated 'not to use a reg cleaner'.

Now please tell us why.

John.

Registry cleaners are good at removing unneeded entries,
which they report loudly as a measure of their "success".
The fact is that these dormant entries take very little disk
space and have no effect whatsoever on the performance
of Windows.

They are not good at removing "bad" entries. Doing so
would require an intimate knowledge of the application
that created them, which is an impossible task. If they
attempt to undertake this task regardless then the result
is often catastrophic. It is equivalent to a surgeon removing
a part of your brain without knowing what its function is.

 

[Guest]

can i use the backup this cleaners

Because they ( Registry Cleaners ) don't have the ability to make a
absolute determination of what can be safely removed beyond things
like MRU ( Most Recently Used ) lists and temporary workspace
type entries.

Load up 3 Registry Cleaners and let them scan your system but do
not allow them to remove entries. You'll find that each will show you
a different list of what they consider safe to remove.

The Registry is a complex and highly interdependent association of
Keys and values. It's very easy to break one of those associations. The
result may not appear immediately but days or weeks after the cleaner
is run.

 

[John]

OK, many thanks for all your help.

John.

 

[R. McCarty]

Backing up the Registry is always a good idea, either as a stand
alone Registry or better yet in a image of the Windows volume.
For Imaging, I use and recommend Acronis True Image.

ERuNT is one excellent tool for "Stand Alone" Registry Backup:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

 

[Curt Christianson]

For some good reasons, read this thread:

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

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Curt

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| Newbie Coder wrote:
| > Monteiro,
| >
| > Never, never, never use a reg cleaner!!
| >
|
| OK, so you've both stated 'not to use a reg cleaner'.
|
| Now please tell us why.
|
| John.

 

[Guest]

so ther is a lot software is useless

Backing up the Registry is always a good idea, either as a stand
alone Registry or better yet in a image of the Windows volume.
For Imaging, I use and recommend Acronis True Image.

ERuNT is one excellent tool for "Stand Alone" Registry Backup:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

 

[Terry R.]

Monteiro,

Never, never, never use a reg cleaner!!

OK, so you've both stated 'not to use a reg cleaner'.

Now please tell us why.

John.[/QUOTE]

John,

It's not the registry cleaner that is at fault. It's always the user.
People who install a reg cleaner, let it run in "auto mode" are asking
for trouble. People who aren't real familiar with Windows and the
registry shouldn't run a reg cleaner "just because", or "I want to
increase the performance", or "someone recommended it".

Saying that, I've used registry cleaners for years (the free JV16 Power
Tools is my choice). I have it run a scan to show me what it finds.
Then I select what I want removed. Before the program removes anything,
it creates a backup of the keys to be modified.

Being a consultant, I have resolved many issues for clients using a reg
cleaner. I don't suggest they ever run them, but I don't have a problem
doing so.


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[Guest]

what if the registry I want to delete is from a program that I deleted using
the Add/Remove option??

 

[Guest]

Namely game trials that I try and then Delete using the Add/Remove
Option. If the space that these registries is taking up is small I'm not
worried but it does eventually add up. Is there a way to just delete
registries from the things I've deleted???
elenbe

 

[Alias]

Namely game trials that I try and then Delete using the Add/Remove
Option. If the space that these registries is taking up is small I'm not
worried but it does eventually add up. Is there a way to just delete
registries from the things I've deleted???
elenbe

Yeah, there is. Get Crap Cleaner from www.ccleaner.com and use the
Registry function. Be sure to also use the back up feature before
removing registry entries. If you've installed and uninstalled a slew of
programs. Crap Cleaner will find hundreds of entries that should be
removed, regardless of what *anyone* says. Once you've done that, you
will see a marked performance improvement.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Unless you know exactly what you're doing, you should rely
on the add/remove tool when removing programs from your
PC. The amount of disk space used by left-over registry
entries is so small that it would require tens of thousands of
programs to make a noticeable difference on the amount of
free disk space.

Registry cleaners often claim to speed up your machine by
removing such entries. The claim is false: There is no difference
in speed before and after.

 

[Alias]

Unless you know exactly what you're doing, you should rely
on the add/remove tool when removing programs from your
PC. The amount of disk space used by left-over registry
entries is so small that it would require tens of thousands of
programs to make a noticeable difference on the amount of
free disk space.
True.


Registry cleaners often claim to speed up your machine by
removing such entries. The claim is false: There is no difference
in speed before and after.

False. I see a marked improvement in performance and boot up time,
especially when using CCleaner and SystemSuite5 after a clean install of
XP and Office.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

False. I see a marked improvement in performance and boot up time,
especially when using CCleaner and SystemSuite5 after a clean install of
XP and Office.

Let's have some details:
- What exactly did you measure, i.e. what was your benchmark test?
- How did you measure it? Did it "feel" faster? Did you use a stopwatch?
- What was the improvement?
- Was this a once of test or were you able to see a consistent improvement
on many different machines?

Unless you supply full details it won't be possible for other
readers to duplicate your tests and confirm your results.

 

[Gerry]

Pegasus

The speed up comes from using the disk cleanup component not the Scan
for Issues function.

The real crunch question is the risk assessment! Achieve a debatable
infinitesimal performance boost for the prospect of one day having an
unusable system at a most inopportune moment. If the computer is used
for anything other than gaming the benefit is not worth the risk

Just my take on the issues involved.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Alias]

Let's have some details:
- What exactly did you measure, i.e. what was your benchmark test?
- How did you measure it? Did it "feel" faster? Did you use a stopwatch?
- What was the improvement?
- Was this a once of test or were you able to see a consistent improvement
on many different machines?

Unless you supply full details it won't be possible for other
readers to duplicate your tests and confirm your results.

Stop watch. Dozens and dozens of machines. I just cleaned up a computer
that took TEN MINUTES to boot up. Now it boots up in 46 seconds. Enough
of a benchmark for you? I removed almost a THOUSAND errant registry entries.