Windows Live One Online Registry Cleanup

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eli

Hello:

I've run an online scan using the Windows live One Online Scan:

http://safety.live.com/site/en-us/center/howsafe.htm

No virus / malware was found.

However, the online scan found 200 invalid registry items and offered to
correct this automatically.

I know next to nothing about the registry and have never modified it.

Question:

How safe is it to simply allow the Windows Live One to fix my registry?

Are there safer ways to do this?

Thanks in advance:

Eli

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Windows XP Professional Edition
IE 7
Firefox 2.0.0.1
Zone alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

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eli said:
Hello:

I've run an online scan using the Windows live One Online Scan:

http://safety.live.com/site/en-us/center/howsafe.htm

No virus / malware was found.

However, the online scan found 200 invalid registry items and offered to
correct this automatically.

I know next to nothing about the registry and have never modified it.

*** You're in excellent company.
Question:

How safe is it to simply allow the Windows Live One to fix my registry?

*** It is not safe at all. If you're lucky then you will not notice
*** any difference at all. If you're unlucky then you will end up
*** with a thrashed installation.
Are there safer ways to do this?

*** Yes, leave it alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Thanks in advance:

Eli

*** If you really want to do something useful, get yourself
*** a 2.5" hard disk in an external USB enclosure and use
*** it to back up your files once a week or so. This is
*** the most neglected area in computing and we get to
*** read the sob-stories in this newsgroup when people
*** have lost their irreplaceable files.
 
R

Rock

"eli" <wrote
Hello:

I've run an online scan using the Windows live One Online Scan:

http://safety.live.com/site/en-us/center/howsafe.htm

No virus / malware was found.

However, the online scan found 200 invalid registry items and offered to
correct this automatically.

I know next to nothing about the registry and have never modified it.

Question:

How safe is it to simply allow the Windows Live One to fix my registry?

Are there safer ways to do this?

<snip>

It's actually called Live OneCare. Online malware scanners are not a good
indicator of whether your system is clean. For one thing OneCare and Live
OneCare has one of the worst virus detection rate of all AV programs. Also
malware can hide from online scans.

I do see you are using Zone Alarm security suite. Does this suite contain a
program to detect/remove non viral malware such as spyware, adware, etc? To
make sure your system is clean here are some links for dealing with malware.

Malware Removal
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

THE PARASITE FIGHT
Finding, Removing & Protecting Yourself From Scumware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

Richard Harper's Guide to Cleaning Pests
http://rgharper.mvps.org/cleanit.htm

In general registry cleaners and scans of that sort should be avoided. They
can do more harm than good.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

eli said:
Hello:

I've run an online scan using the Windows live One Online Scan:

http://safety.live.com/site/en-us/center/howsafe.htm

No virus / malware was found.

However, the online scan found 200 invalid registry items and offered to
correct this automatically.

I know next to nothing about the registry and have never modified it.

Question:

How safe is it to simply allow the Windows Live One to fix my registry?


I'd be very leery of allowing *ANY* automated registry cleaning, even
one deveoloped by Microsoft.

Are there safer ways to do this?

Yes, after backing up the registry, manually edit/remove only those
specific individual entries that are causing actual problems.

What specific problems are you *actually experiencing* (not some snake
oil program's bogus listing of imaginary problems)?

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change. Having seen the results of inexperienced people
using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user.

The only thing needed to safely clean your registry is knowledge
and Regedit.exe. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain
your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

Further, no one has ever demonstrated, to my satisfaction, that the
use of an automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability.

I always use Regedit.exe. I trust my own experience and judgment
far more than I would any automated registry cleaner. I strongly
encourage others to acquire the knowledge, as well.


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Bruce Chambers

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