Radeon 9200SE - no boot

[steamboat]

I am trying to install a 9200 SE 128 MB PCI in a Abit BE6 MB. System worked
fine with an older video card. However, even with all other slots empty,
the system won't boot with the 9200SE. I get 1 ong 3 short beeps which in
my Award BIOS indicates an inability to communicate with the video card. Do
I have a bad card or is there an incompatibility with the BE6?

 

[Kent_Diego]

Either it's your power supply or the motherboard.

 

[steamboat]

Well since both work fine with a different video card, I don't think it is
either the power supply or the motherboard.

 

[Deek Stern]

Well since both work fine with a different video card, I don't think
it is either the power supply or the motherboard.

There may still be compatibility issues. What Motherboard do you have? It
(or the power supply) may not be able to provide enough power (or the right
voltages) for the new card. All AGP slots are not the same, there is V1.0,
2.0 etc.

 

[Kent_Diego]

Well since both work fine with a different video card, I don't think it is

either the power supply or the motherboard.

I have seen motherboards that work with older video cards but not new ones.
Very often power supplies will work with older video cards but not new ones
too. If you are serious about getting your 9200SE going, first try new PS
then try motherboard.

 

[steamboat]

As I said in the first post, the motherboard is an ABIT BE6 and the video
card is PCI

I agree there may be a compatibility problem. Thats what I am trying to
figure out.

 

[steamboat]

Somehow I don't think I am going to spend $200 on a new motherboard and
power supply to get a $50 video card to work. Surely there must be a PCI
video card that will work with this MB if in fact it is a compatibility
problem.

 

[dino]

the newer ones require greater amounts of power to operate...so you may have
to look for a legacy card..ie..out of date..you had a PCI card before??..if
not before you put it in..see if there is an option to select VGA..and set
it to PCI..am not sure what that BIOS is like.

 

[Pug Fugley]

Isn't the BE6 a very old motherboard..like Pentium2 age?? If so, it can't
supply enough voltage for newer video cards. It won't work.

 

[sbb78247]

Down right antique by today's standards. By now the capacitors should be
about to give out (as they usually did with these guys), so why not upgrade
to a new board and video card? Take this one back, upgrade your
mobo/cpu/video and be ready to go for the next year or so.

Shannon

 

[JAD]

the 9200se is a PCI version? otherwise like they have been saying PCI
to an AGP video card is a power leap and may be the culprit. If your
9200 is a PCI I don't see a 'power' problem being the number one
culprit. If you remove all other cards and HD's and CD then
boot..video now? Try resetting the CMOS. I would try the 9200 in
another machine if you can, just to be sure we are not starting from a
bad card.

 

[steamboat]

Actually a Slot 1 P3. Its actually quite functional other than the old
video card that only had 2MB of memory. Can't buy that its a voltage problem
since the PCI bus has the same voltage specs whether a vintage or current
board. Given its the #3 system in the house and all I need is a little more
video functionality, I don't see the need to spend several hundred for an
upgrade. Problem is if I get a new board, I'll need a new processor, new
memory , new ........

 

[sbb78247]

Actually a Slot 1 P3. Its actually quite functional other than the old
video card that only had 2MB of memory. Can't buy that its a voltage problem
since the PCI bus has the same voltage specs whether a vintage or current
board. Given its the #3 system in the house and all I need is a little more
video functionality, I don't see the need to spend several hundred for an
upgrade. Problem is if I get a new board, I'll need a new processor, new
memory , new ........


which

And like I said earlier, it's just a matter of time before the capacitors
give out. I am amazed that it is still functioning with all of the bad caps
that went into many boards of this vintage. Have you checked lately to see
if any are domed, swollen, or leaking? This was a very common problem with
this generation of Abit boards. And now that you are making a higher demand
on the electrical system, this problem may be beginning to finally manifest
itself to you. Check out Homie's sight at http://motherboardrepair.com/ ,
it kind of details the capacitor problems of the past.

Shannon

 

[JAD]

And now that you are making a higher demand

on the electrical system,

SB please explain the 'higher' power consumption?

voltage little it beeps video


And like I said earlier, it's just a matter of time before the capacitors
give out. I am amazed that it is still functioning with all of the bad caps
that went into many boards of this vintage. Have you checked lately to see
if any are domed, swollen, or leaking? This was a very common problem with
this generation of Abit boards. this problem may be beginning to finally manifest
itself to you. Check out Homie's sight at

http://motherboardrepair.com/ ,

 

[steamboat]

Havn't noticed any bulging capacitors and don't buy that that is the
problem. If the capacitors where going bad, I would be having he same boot
problem with the other video card.

 

[Heywood Jablowmie]

Havn't noticed any bulging capacitors and don't buy that that is the
problem. If the capacitors where going bad, I would be having he same boot
problem with the other video card.

You just don't seem to get it, the old card sucked up MAYBE 20 watts,
the new one is way over 100 watts, where do you think all that extra
current is coming from, photosynthesis?

Many newer cards even come with auxiliary power plugs for just this
reason, the AGP or PCI bus simply can't supply the current that's
required. Since the 9200se doesn't have the extra plug, it's not the
buss, but the power supply itself that can't supply the required
current. (And it's a current problem, not voltage.) Power in watts =
voltage times current.

Also, although I doubt bad caps are the problem, that's EXACTLY what
the caps are used for, supplying large reserves of current for very
short periods of time. As they dry out they loose the ability to do
so.

Assuming you don't want to get a new power supply (Best Buy has a full
30 day no questions asked as long as you return it in resellable
condition, return policy) you might be better off getting a used
VooDoo3 on ebay.

 

[sbb78247]

Sorry, I haven't been keeping up, but Heywood pretty much said it all. The
new card consumes more power than the old, so there is your power
consumption.

Shannon