Question on slipstreaming Windows XP Pro with SP2(or any SP).

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You do not need to slipstream SP2 onto a cd....With xp on current cd from
microsoft,during the installation,tell me how it knows SP2 even exists,it
wont
require it,the BIOS certainly wont....Best bet leave xp cd as is,install
SP2 when
windows update reccomends it....
 
You most certainly *can* perform a vanilla install and download/install SP2
at a later time.

Question is, Why wouldn't a new computer already have SP2 installed?

HTH,
 
Either one of the following utilities makes slipstreaming
(integrating) SP2 into Windows XP a breeze:

Windows Slipstreaming and Bootable CD Guide
http://www.msfn.org/articles.php?action=show&showarticle=49


or


AutoStreamer 1.0.33 (preferred)
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=223562



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| Someone told me that XP Pro won't install on some new computers without SP2
| already installed (that is, a slipstreamed copy), but I cant find any
| documentation to support that. Has anyone else heard that? It is a big
| concern because Im about to buy a new box, and this would suck. I tried to
| slipstream, the problem is that after I slipstream, all the contents that I
| need to burn would be just slightly too large to fit onto a CD. Also, I
| really don't care about having to redownload/ install SP2 if my box crashes.
| All this being said, is it really necessary, or can I just do a plain
| vanilla install, then download/ add SP2?
|
| TIA, ChrisR
 
Someone told me that XP Pro won't install on some new computers without
SP2
already installed (that is, a slipstreamed copy), but I cant find any
documentation to support that. Has anyone else heard that? It is a big
concern because Im about to buy a new box, and this would suck. I tried to
slipstream, the problem is that after I slipstream, all the contents that
I
need to burn would be just slightly too large to fit onto a CD. Also, I
really don't care about having to redownload/ install SP2 if my box
crashes.
All this being said, is it really necessary, or can I just do a plain
vanilla install, then download/ add SP2?
Click to expand...

Then only slipstream SP2. That works. I don't understand the logic -
because you can't get everything you want into the CD you won't slipstream
at all?

In any event I have not heard of a situation where it won't install without
SP2.
 
ChrisR said:
Someone told me that XP Pro won't install on some new
computers without SP2 already installed (that is, a
slipstreamed copy), but I cant find any documentation to
support that. Has anyone else heard that? It is a big
concern because Im about to buy a new box, and this would
suck. I tried to slipstream, the problem is that after I
slipstream, all the contents that I need to burn would be
just slightly too large to fit onto a CD. Also, I really
don't care about having to redownload/ install SP2 if my box
crashes. All this being said, is it really necessary, or can
I just do a plain vanilla install, then download/ add SP2?

TIA, ChrisR
Click to expand...

If you use an XP installation CD that does not contain any
service packs you may run into a problem if the hard drive is
larger that 137 GB.

Windows 137GB Capacity Barrier
http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/tp/137gb.pdf

SP1 or SP2 would have to be part of your installation CD in
order for Windows to create partitions larger than 137 GB.

I've created a number of slipstreamed XP installation CD's and
never run into a problem with them being too large to fit on a
CD. I checked them and the largest one is 619 MB. Are you
adding stuff beyond the standard XP installation files?

Here's an article on slipstreaming that you may find helpful.

Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm

Good luck

Nepatsfan
 
"Someone told me..."
Ask them for their source.
I have never heard of it and it sounds very much like fiction.
Perhaps the beginning of yet another myth created by a Microsoft critic.

Most if not all new computers shipping with Windows XP will also include
SP-2 but that does not mean Windows XP can not be installed unless SP-2 is
included.
 
Carey said:
Either one of the following utilities makes slipstreaming
(integrating) SP2 into Windows XP a breeze:

Windows Slipstreaming and Bootable CD Guide
http://www.msfn.org/articles.php?action=show&showarticle=49


or


AutoStreamer 1.0.33 (preferred)
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=223562
Click to expand...

It's not exactly a "breeze", especially to newbies, and in addition it says
nothing there about how to test the new CD to be sure it does what it's
supposed to. I've come across too many people that, when they actually need
their recovery apps the most, they discover the slipstream isn't working;
and it's too late to do anything about it.

It's also a lot faster and more efficient to simply have your XP CD and the
SP you need, and just install them, letting Auto Update take care of the
rest. Even with a slipstream it doesn't take long before there are quite a
few more fixes to be applied.
Even better, have an image you can use for recovery - the best of all
worlds, AND can be tested easily to see that it's working OK.

IMO slitpstreaming is progress for the sake of progress and little thought
has actually been give to the realities of its uses and proving that it will
work on any particular machine.

Pop`
 
Someone told me that XP Pro won't install on some new computers without SP2
already installed (that is, a slipstreamed copy), but I cant find any
documentation to support that. Has anyone else heard that? It is a big
concern because Im about to buy a new box, and this would suck. I tried to
slipstream, the problem is that after I slipstream, all the contents that I
need to burn would be just slightly too large to fit onto a CD. Also, I
really don't care about having to redownload/ install SP2 if my box crashes.
All this being said, is it really necessary, or can I just do a plain
vanilla install, then download/ add SP2?

TIA, ChrisR
 
I have an older (Pre SP2) CD.



Andrew E. said:
You do not need to slipstream SP2 onto a cd....With xp on current cd from
microsoft,during the installation,tell me how it knows SP2 even exists,it
wont
require it,the BIOS certainly wont....Best bet leave xp cd as is,install
SP2 when
windows update reccomends it....
Click to expand...
 
Not to sure I would agree with "It's also a lot faster and more efficient to
simply have your XP CD and the
SP you need, and just install them, letting Auto Update take care of the
rest."

The critical updates are to fix security flaws so you could well get
infected prior to downloading these as you suggest, maybe not so much after
installing SP2 but if they leave their PC connected to the internet prior to
installing SP2 they could well start getting a 60 second countdown to
shutdown before they can even install it.

You might say "they wouldn't be that silly" but gotta be honest creating a
windows XP CD with SP2 on it ain't that hard either!
 
If you try to do a repair install or an in-place install of Windows XP SP2
with a non-SP2 CD, the installation will not proceed. You will be told that
you are trying to install an older version of Windows over a newer version.

Of course, this does not apply if you format then install.

Honu
 
He is very much an MS critic.


Jupiter Jones said:
"Someone told me..."
Ask them for their source.
I have never heard of it and it sounds very much like fiction.
Perhaps the beginning of yet another myth created by a Microsoft critic.

Most if not all new computers shipping with Windows XP will also include
SP-2 but that does not mean Windows XP can not be installed unless SP-2 is
included.
Click to expand...
 
Thanks to all for their very valuable insights. As I suspected, nobody has
heard of ther install problems that I mentioned in my original post, with
the exception of the 137gb rule (Im not sure if that will apply yet or not,
but it's good to know). On top of that, I simply don't care about the
recovery of a crash. I will reinstall the OS and then download/reinstall the
most current SP if that happens.

Thanks again!
 
ChrisR said:
Thanks to all for their very valuable insights. As I suspected, nobody has
heard of ther install problems that I mentioned in my original post, with
the exception of the 137gb rule (Im not sure if that will apply yet or not,
but it's good to know). On top of that, I simply don't care about the
recovery of a crash. I will reinstall the OS and then download/reinstall the
most current SP if that happens.
Click to expand...

Be careful. If your installation CD is not up to at least SP1 then
your computer can be infected within a minute or two of being
connected to the Internet unless you have a firewall in place.

Note that the Windows XP included firewall, which is adequate for
protecting against this, is usually turned off by default on a new
install of the original release version of XP.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

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has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
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