Problems with SP2

[Tom]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:10:25 -0500, "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)"

regrettable misperception on Ron J's part.

You mean "regrettable perception", no such word that you used, nor is it
proper usage.

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

Wild

Microsoft supply XP OS as OEM on the basis that the vendor fully supports
it.. if the vendor does not, then why is that the responsibility of
Microsoft?.. the major name manufacturers and vendors commission
motherboards that are slightly off standard specification, a kind of company
signature.. they then add whatever to the OEM installation to make it work..
why is that the responsibility of Microsoft?

It seems to me that you could probably be using older programs that are
borderline in XP.. do you think that Microsoft are responsible for what you
choose to run?.. have you considered questioning the program authors re.
fixes such that the programs might work in XP SP2?..

Microsoft do their best to provide a stable and safe OS in the interests of
computing generally.. third party software authors are acutely aware of the
problems, yet in some cases choose to do NOTHING re. compatibility with the
latest and safest OS.. well, actually they do.. they produce new versions
for which they demand large amounts of money.. and this is the
responsibility of Microsoft?

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

 

[Guest]

Hello Mike, Jhon & wild,
I kenw all to well what wild meant. Being a strong "Ride For The Brand"
man, to me, when you insult one you insult all . Wilde is most likely using
programs not compat. with SP2. I use two HP machines at home . And I have
customers with HP machines. I have had no trouble with SP2 or XP other than
some printers acting up or having to be replaced for nore compat. ones. Thats
the way it goes, No ones fault. Sometimes lfe sucks. You can cry about or you
can fix it. Wild, you will have to go deeper into programs thagt are compat.
with SP2 or drop SP2 altoghter. Ms has the info it takes work to find it.
Yes, it sucks.
That's life,
Best of luck to all,. Ron J

 

[Wildepad]

It seems to me that you could probably be using older programs that are
borderline in XP.. do you think that Microsoft are responsible for what you
choose to run?..

Yes, they are, in the fact that they are claiming that it is still
Windows, which implies that Windows programs run on it.

If Buick were to change their products so that they have one wheel and
can only be used on concrete paving, that's fine, but they shouldn't
call it an automobile and claim that it fills the same purpose as a
four-wheel, go-anywhere car.

IF MS were to maintain true compatibility, find a new name for a
product line that does not function in critical ways like the previous
product, or otherwise assure that the public will not be duped into
believing that they won't have to buy a completely new set of software
every time they buy a computer with Windows, your argument would be
valid.

As it is, however, MS is doing none of those.


EOMI

 

[Wildepad]

Hello Mike, Jhon & wild,
I kenw all to well what wild meant. Being a strong "Ride For The Brand"
man, to me, when you insult one you insult all . Wilde is most likely using
programs not compat. with SP2.

That is looking like the real problem. What irks is that they're from
different manufacturers, and all worked fine under SP1 (I always lose
some programs when changing from one version of Windows to another,
but to lose my top four all at once is very disconcerting).

You can cry about or you can fix it. Wild,

Actually, there's a third option. I just went back to the original
(with all updates other than SP2), and everything works fine. If I
just ignore SP2, there won't be a problem.

I didn't want to go that route and was hoping that there was some
stupid little thing that I overlooked in installing SP2, but (alas!)
it looks like SP2 just isn't an option.

you will have to go deeper into programs thagt are compat.
with SP2 or drop SP2 altoghter. Ms has the info it takes work to find it.

It simply isn't economic for me to replace what I have with programs
that are SP2 compatible -- if I'm going to spend over $2000 for new
programs, ones that might not work on the next item in the MS product
line, it makes far more sense to switch over to Linux which will
maintain compatibility (or at least is open-source enough that I can
go in and make alterations ((I knew there was a reason I kept my
manual for C programming under Unix!!! ;-) )) ).

Best of luck to all,. Ron J

Thanks for all your time and effort -- pointing out that I didn't make
any obvious mistakes saved me from many hours of head-meet-brick-wall.

Much appreciated.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

If I read this correctly, you used windows Update instead of ordering SP-2
on CD or downloading SP-2 and burning to CD.
You may have skipped unnecessary steps, but you also skipped one of the most
important, get SP-2 on CD.

 

[Wildepad]

If I read this correctly, you used windows Update instead of ordering SP-2
on CD or downloading SP-2 and burning to CD.
You may have skipped unnecessary steps, but you also skipped one of the most
important, get SP-2 on CD.

I don't know anyone who has it, DSL isn't available here, and although
I ordered it from MS twice (about four months ago and then again about
two months ago), in their infinite wisdom they never sent it.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Keep ordering every week until you get the CD.
Or have a trusted friend mail it to you after they order or burn themselves.

 

[Guest]

Hello wild,
I am, going to popst this in hopes you will be notifed. Despite the
misunderstanding. I have not stopped researching your issue. I love a good
chase and this issue gave me one. if you are still haveing trouble it is
because SP2 reconfigures the firewall when using a dial-up connedtion. The
patch for this has not been offically released to the public. At the time
that I posted this , you could get the patch @pcworld.com/ 146418. Sorry it
took so long. I have been busy. Best of luck to you.
Ron J

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Keep ordering every week until you get the CD.