Problems upgrading from Nvidia to ATI 9700 Pro


J

JD

Yesterday I purchased a ATI 9700 Pro to replace my Nvidia Ti 4200. My first
step in the switchover process was to uninstall the Nvidia drivers using
add/remove in control panel. Then I shut down the computer, switched cards,
booted back up but it was always to a black screen (which I found info about
on the ATI FAQ, I tried different AGP driver and updated the bios to no
avail)

So then I booted in VGA mode and installed the ATI drivers, after which it
would boot into windows seemingly fine but crash after a random amount of
time (sometimes almost right away or other times it would actually let me
play doom 3 for a few seconds before crashing).

Next I tried a clean install of windows on a spare hard drive, everything
works flawlessly including Doom 3! So now my main question is....How can I
fix my other installation of windows so that I don't need to use this clean
install?

Thanks



AMD 2600+, AsRock K7S8XE+, 1GB DDR Ram, no other cards installed but the
video card.
 
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Shawk

JD said:
Yesterday I purchased a ATI 9700 Pro to replace my Nvidia Ti 4200. My first
step in the switchover process was to uninstall the Nvidia drivers using
add/remove in control panel. Then I shut down the computer, switched cards,
booted back up but it was always to a black screen (which I found info about
on the ATI FAQ, I tried different AGP driver and updated the bios to no
avail)

So then I booted in VGA mode and installed the ATI drivers, after which it
would boot into windows seemingly fine but crash after a random amount of
time (sometimes almost right away or other times it would actually let me
play doom 3 for a few seconds before crashing).

Next I tried a clean install of windows on a spare hard drive, everything
works flawlessly including Doom 3! So now my main question is....How can I
fix my other installation of windows so that I don't need to use this clean
install?

Thanks



AMD 2600+, AsRock K7S8XE+, 1GB DDR Ram, no other cards installed but the
video card.

Sounds like you have remnants of the NVidia drivers - a common fault in
here. Get something like driver cleaner and ensure every last trace of
NVidia is gone. If you have an NVidia chipset mobo (I'm not familiar with
yours) you may need to reinstall the drivers for it again before loading the
ATI drivers. HTH, Shaun
 
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Charlie.T.P

JD said:
Yesterday I purchased a ATI 9700 Pro to replace my Nvidia Ti 4200. My first
step in the switchover process was to uninstall the Nvidia drivers using
add/remove in control panel. Then I shut down the computer, switched cards,
booted back up but it was always to a black screen (which I found info about
on the ATI FAQ, I tried different AGP driver and updated the bios to no
avail)

So then I booted in VGA mode and installed the ATI drivers, after which it
would boot into windows seemingly fine but crash after a random amount of
time (sometimes almost right away or other times it would actually let me
play doom 3 for a few seconds before crashing).

Next I tried a clean install of windows on a spare hard drive, everything
works flawlessly including Doom 3! So now my main question is....How can I
fix my other installation of windows so that I don't need to use this clean
install?

Thanks

I've got the same problem, WinXP starts fine, but 5 seconds into ANY game it
freezes and the screen goes blank.

I've tried:
Switching of FastWrite
Switching of AGP 8x
Unplugging CD Rom Drives etc to make sure I've got enough power
Used a Driver Cleaner tool to remove all nvidia files

I'm about to smash the f***ing thing up! :-(
 
K

Kendt Eklund

JD said:
Yesterday I purchased a ATI 9700 Pro to replace my Nvidia Ti 4200. My first
step in the switchover process was to uninstall the Nvidia drivers using
add/remove in control panel. Then I shut down the computer, switched cards,
booted back up but it was always to a black screen (which I found info about
on the ATI FAQ, I tried different AGP driver and updated the bios to no
avail)

So then I booted in VGA mode and installed the ATI drivers, after which it
would boot into windows seemingly fine but crash after a random amount of
time (sometimes almost right away or other times it would actually let me
play doom 3 for a few seconds before crashing).

Next I tried a clean install of windows on a spare hard drive, everything
works flawlessly including Doom 3! So now my main question is....How can I
fix my other installation of windows so that I don't need to use this clean
install?

Thanks

Do a Google for Detonator Destroyer - that should clear out all the nVidia stuff.

HTH,
Kendt
 
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Shawk

Charlie.T.P said:
can

I've got the same problem, WinXP starts fine, but 5 seconds into ANY game it
freezes and the screen goes blank.

I've tried:
Switching of FastWrite
Switching of AGP 8x
Unplugging CD Rom Drives etc to make sure I've got enough power
Used a Driver Cleaner tool to remove all nvidia files

I'm about to smash the f***ing thing up! :-(

What kind of PSU and cooling do you have?
 
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Charlie.T.P

I've got the same problem, WinXP starts fine, but 5 seconds into ANY
game
it

What kind of PSU and cooling do you have?

450W PSU and a couple of fans inside the unit plus the standard ATI one on
the card.
 
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Charlie.T.P

I've got the same problem, WinXP starts fine, but 5 seconds into ANY game
it
freezes and the screen goes blank.

I've tried:
Switching of FastWrite
Switching of AGP 8x
Unplugging CD Rom Drives etc to make sure I've got enough power
Used a Driver Cleaner tool to remove all nvidia files

I'm about to smash the f***ing thing up! :-(

Further to this I've underclocked the card to 295 mhz for the core and 300
for the memory and it seems ok apart from a few white boxes appearing from
time to time when playing battlefield vietnam.

Why can't I run it at full spec? Is this a heat thing after all?
 
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patrickp

Further to this I've underclocked the card to 295 mhz for the core and 300
for the memory and it seems ok apart from a few white boxes appearing from
time to time when playing battlefield vietnam.

Why can't I run it at full spec? Is this a heat thing after all?

You don't say what card you have, Charlie, but the OP has a 9700 Pro:
I believe this is one of Ati's hottest running cards, particularly
where the card is working hard, as in games. So, yes, it could be
heat.

Apart from that, if you have one of the cards that requires an
auxiliary power connector (as the 9700 Pro does), it can help to
ensure that it doesn't share that with other devices.

Just a couple of

patrickp

(e-mail address removed) - take five to email me
 
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Charlie.T.P

You don't say what card you have, Charlie, but the OP has a 9700 Pro:
I believe this is one of Ati's hottest running cards, particularly
where the card is working hard, as in games. So, yes, it could be
heat.

Apart from that, if you have one of the cards that requires an
auxiliary power connector (as the 9700 Pro does), it can help to
ensure that it doesn't share that with other devices.

Just a couple of

patrickp

(e-mail address removed) - take five to email me

I've got the 9700 pro as well. I've ordered a new 500 w psu and a load of
fans to try and get the temp down. Hopefully this'll sort it! ;-)
 

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