Problem with Defragmentation

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Ken

That statement was not made by me.

I didn't say it was, Gerry. The statement was made by Lil' Dave. He
said

"Assuming you have adequate RAM, you can cause the PC to create an
unfragmented pagefile."

and I responded (to him, not to you)

"Defragmenting the page file normally is a waste of time. Because
access to it is random anyway, a fragmented page file has practically
no performance penalty."

That's all I said. For some reason that I don't understand, since you
apparently agree with that statement in what you say below, you took
exception to it.

However, the statement has no bearing
on the distinction I have been trying to get you to admit exists. Namely
that maintaining a single block on the hard disk allocated to the
pagefile is not the same as defragmenting the pagefile. Once you achieve
the first you need do no more other than not change the pagefile
settings. If you chose to defragment the pagefile you would need to do
it continuously. We both agree this is pointless.

Gerry, as far as I'm concerned, you're throwing a red herring into
this. That has nothing to do with the statement I made that you took
exception to.

But I don't want to get into a fight with you, or anyone else, over
this. As far as I'm concerned, the subject is closed, and I won't
continue the thread any longer. If your opinion is different from
mine, I'll simply accept that we have different views on it.

 

[Lil' Dave]

My bad.

I use a scsi hard drive for a temp sometimes for the swapfile. Cleanup with
Diskeeper defrag of the windows partition, then put the swapfile back to the
windows partition.

Found it doing so a cleanup did 2 things if the right conditions exist.
Larger files could be moved to the "left" of the swapfile in unoccupied area
that lived before right of the previously existing swapfile. If the
swapfile was broken in pieces, it became contiguous. There's no perceptible
performance improvement on my machine. I do like the visually tidy results
afterwards though.

Also, I like to defragment before imaging.
Dave

 

[Guest]

John
Just browsing the discussion to see if I could find something helpful and
noted this thread - I am using this site for the first time so I hope you
dont mind me picking up on an old discussion you have been involved in.
My problem is that after defrag I have 16gig of fragmented files that cant
be defrag'd- what coulkd they be and how do I do something about it - any
ideas.
I thought they may be photos and video clips as I have quite a few of those
stored so I tried to move them to an external hard drive and delete them
however some wont delete as orig file cannot be found!?!?!?

 

[Gerry]

Polly

Please post a copy of your Defragmentation Report ( using the Save As
option etc ) after you have run Disk Defragmenter. Run Disk CleanUp
before running Disk Defragmenter.

To increase you free space on your XP partition select Start, All
Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options,
System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore points?
Restore points can be quite large

You need 15% free disk space to run Disk Defragmenter to good effect.
Large files can cause problems where free dis space is fragmented.
Running Disk Defragmenter more than once can help.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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