preparing DNS for Active Directory

G

Guest

Hello all:

My friends and I are trying to grasp the concepts of active directory and
we have saved up money to get 4 test computers to develop our practical
skills.

Our environment is all 2000 sp4 servers with win2k and XP clients.. we have
the goal to setup 2 DC and 2 clients. I have read about preparing DNS before
installing active directory. I have read that some people discouraged
implementing active directory integrated DNS i.e. the one active directory
wizard helps you with.

So my question is what steps should I take (before installing active
directory) to prepare DNS for active directory.

One domain: goku316.edu a primary and secondary DNS servers:

The forward zones… “.†(root.DNS) & goku316.edu (set allow dynamic updates)…
The reverse zones … 6.168.192

Of course the servers all have a static ip address and I intend to install 2
domain controllers…


Any suggestions… on the steps I should take…
All help is welcomed….
 
A

Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
Tony.. said:
Hello all:

My friends and I are trying to grasp the concepts of active directory
and we have saved up money to get 4 test computers to develop our
practical skills.

Our environment is all 2000 sp4 servers with win2k and XP clients..
we have the goal to setup 2 DC and 2 clients. I have read about
preparing DNS before installing active directory. I have read that
some people discouraged implementing active directory integrated DNS
i.e. the one active directory wizard helps you with.

So my question is what steps should I take (before installing active
directory) to prepare DNS for active directory.

One domain: goku316.edu a primary and secondary DNS servers:

The forward zones. "." (root.DNS) & goku316.edu (set allow dynamic
updates). The reverse zones . 6.168.192

Of course the servers all have a static ip address and I intend to
install 2 domain controllers.


Any suggestions. on the steps I should take.
All help is welcomed..

Why discourage using AD Integratred zones? What is the reasoning you've seen
to not use AD Integrated zones? Do you have a link or is it just conjecture?

It's actually *highly* recommended to use AD Integrated zones for Forward
and Reverse Lookup Zones (instead of Standard Primary and Seconday zones)
because of increased security of the zone (since it;s actually stored in the
AD database), it replicates to all DCs in a domain and therefore available
on those DCs, secure updates feature, and taking advantage of it's
multi-master features. Windows 2003 actually has additional features to
replicate the zone to all DCs in a forest.

227844 - Primary and Active Directory Integrated Zones Differences:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;227844

Tell you what, if you just install DNS on the first DC you are installing
first, and make sure it is ONLY using itself for DNS in IP properties, don't
bother creating the zone. When you run through the dcpromo process, it will
create the zone automatically for you, make it AD Integrated, and allow
secure updates only. If the DC is not connected to the Internet during the
promotion process (Win2000 only), it will create a "." (Root) zone. That
will however eliminate outside resolution and not allow the creation of a
forwarder or use of the Root Hints. You can simply delete it. If connected
to the Internet, it will not create the Root zone.This is not to be confused
with the Root Hints.

When you promote the second DC that has a Secondary zone on it, and it is
pointing to either itself (using the Secondary zone), or pointing to the
first DC, (whether DNS is installed on it or not), dcpromo will
automatically make the zone AD Integrated, as long as the first DCs zone is
AD Integrated. This is default.

However, if you try to delete an AD Integrated zone off a DNS server, it
will delete it in AD, and therefore no longer available to any DC. Be
careful on that one.

Some links that may help you out:

AD Deployment Planning Guide Docs - Chapters 1 to 25 including Appendixes:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/dpg/default.asp

Active Directory - All about it [For Design see section on Planning &
Deployment Guides]:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/directory/ad/default.asp

Active Directory Operations Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...irectory/maintain/opsguide/part1/default.mspx

Deploying and Designing Active Directory [DNS Design, Migration, Cert Auth,
Branch Offices, Exchange, ADC, Import-Export, etc]:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...hnologies/activedirectory/deploy/default.mspx

Q298448 - Windows 2000 DNS and Active Directory Information and Technical
Resources [Also Talks about how to use DCDIAG and NetDIAG Infrastructure
Implementation]:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298448

300202 - HOW TO Configure DNS for Internet Access in Windows Server 2000
(how to configure a forwarder is one of the steps) :
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=300202

Common Mistakes When Upgrading a Windows 2000 Domain To a Windows 2003
Domain
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555040

Domain Controller's Domain Name System Suffix Does Not Match Domain Name:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=257623

Clients cannot dynamically register DNS records in a single-label forward
lookup zone:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=826743

291382 - Frequently asked questions about Windows 2000 DNS and Windows
Server 2003 DNS
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;291382

825036 - Best practices for DNS client settings in Windows 2000 Server and
in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825036

--
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

If this post is viewed at a non-Microsoft community website, and you were to
respond to it through that community's website, I may not see your reply
unless that website posts replies back to the original Microsoft forum.
Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroup
this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web community
posts it back to the original forum.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services
Microsot Certified Trainer
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
=================================
 
G

Guest

sorry for the late reply... thanks for the info it worked fine...

one question what is the pros and cons of choosing secure updates or yes
when setting allow dynamic updates in dns...
Ace Fekay said:
In
Tony.. said:
Hello all:

My friends and I are trying to grasp the concepts of active directory
and we have saved up money to get 4 test computers to develop our
practical skills.

Our environment is all 2000 sp4 servers with win2k and XP clients..
we have the goal to setup 2 DC and 2 clients. I have read about
preparing DNS before installing active directory. I have read that
some people discouraged implementing active directory integrated DNS
i.e. the one active directory wizard helps you with.

So my question is what steps should I take (before installing active
directory) to prepare DNS for active directory.

One domain: goku316.edu a primary and secondary DNS servers:

The forward zones. "." (root.DNS) & goku316.edu (set allow dynamic
updates). The reverse zones . 6.168.192

Of course the servers all have a static ip address and I intend to
install 2 domain controllers.


Any suggestions. on the steps I should take.
All help is welcomed..

Why discourage using AD Integratred zones? What is the reasoning you've seen
to not use AD Integrated zones? Do you have a link or is it just conjecture?

It's actually *highly* recommended to use AD Integrated zones for Forward
and Reverse Lookup Zones (instead of Standard Primary and Seconday zones)
because of increased security of the zone (since it;s actually stored in the
AD database), it replicates to all DCs in a domain and therefore available
on those DCs, secure updates feature, and taking advantage of it's
multi-master features. Windows 2003 actually has additional features to
replicate the zone to all DCs in a forest.

227844 - Primary and Active Directory Integrated Zones Differences:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;227844

Tell you what, if you just install DNS on the first DC you are installing
first, and make sure it is ONLY using itself for DNS in IP properties, don't
bother creating the zone. When you run through the dcpromo process, it will
create the zone automatically for you, make it AD Integrated, and allow
secure updates only. If the DC is not connected to the Internet during the
promotion process (Win2000 only), it will create a "." (Root) zone. That
will however eliminate outside resolution and not allow the creation of a
forwarder or use of the Root Hints. You can simply delete it. If connected
to the Internet, it will not create the Root zone.This is not to be confused
with the Root Hints.

When you promote the second DC that has a Secondary zone on it, and it is
pointing to either itself (using the Secondary zone), or pointing to the
first DC, (whether DNS is installed on it or not), dcpromo will
automatically make the zone AD Integrated, as long as the first DCs zone is
AD Integrated. This is default.

However, if you try to delete an AD Integrated zone off a DNS server, it
will delete it in AD, and therefore no longer available to any DC. Be
careful on that one.

Some links that may help you out:

AD Deployment Planning Guide Docs - Chapters 1 to 25 including Appendixes:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/dpg/default.asp

Active Directory - All about it [For Design see section on Planning &
Deployment Guides]:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/directory/ad/default.asp

Active Directory Operations Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...irectory/maintain/opsguide/part1/default.mspx

Deploying and Designing Active Directory [DNS Design, Migration, Cert Auth,
Branch Offices, Exchange, ADC, Import-Export, etc]:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...hnologies/activedirectory/deploy/default.mspx

Q298448 - Windows 2000 DNS and Active Directory Information and Technical
Resources [Also Talks about how to use DCDIAG and NetDIAG Infrastructure
Implementation]:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298448

300202 - HOW TO Configure DNS for Internet Access in Windows Server 2000
(how to configure a forwarder is one of the steps) :
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=300202

Common Mistakes When Upgrading a Windows 2000 Domain To a Windows 2003
Domain
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555040

Domain Controller's Domain Name System Suffix Does Not Match Domain Name:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=257623

Clients cannot dynamically register DNS records in a single-label forward
lookup zone:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=826743

291382 - Frequently asked questions about Windows 2000 DNS and Windows
Server 2003 DNS
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;291382

825036 - Best practices for DNS client settings in Windows 2000 Server and
in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825036

--
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

If this post is viewed at a non-Microsoft community website, and you were to
respond to it through that community's website, I may not see your reply
unless that website posts replies back to the original Microsoft forum.
Therefore, please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroup
this thread originated in so all can benefit or ensure the web community
posts it back to the original forum.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Windows Server - Directory Services
Microsot Certified Trainer
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
=================================
 
A

Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
Tony.. said:
sorry for the late reply... thanks for the info it worked fine...

one question what is the pros and cons of choosing secure updates or
yes when setting allow dynamic updates in dns...
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

You are welcome.

It is highly suggested to use "Secure Updates. " It forces a machine to
authenticate their update request. A joined machine can provide this
authentication. If not joined, they will be denied their update request.

The "Yes" setting allows anything to update, including rogue machines,
passersby with wireless units, etc.

Ace
 
G

Guest

Hi I just have a quick question on your response to this. I'm reading
KB322856 "How to configure DNS to use with Exchange Server" and it says to
make allow dynamic updates = yes. Mine is currently set to Secure updates
only. will this cause any issues?
 
A

Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
Jeff Gamet said:
Hi I just have a quick question on your response to this. I'm reading
KB322856 "How to configure DNS to use with Exchange Server" and it
says to make allow dynamic updates = yes. Mine is currently set to
Secure updates only. will this cause any issues?

No, not at all. It's the preferred setting.

Just keep in mind, don't use your ISP's DNS server, and only use your
internal DNS servers in IP properties for all your DCs, clients, and
servers, including Exchange to insure proper AD functionality. It's
recommended to configure a forwarder for efficient Internet resolution.

If you have any other questions about Exchange, AD or anything, I and
everyone in the group will be glad to help.

Ace
 
G

Guest

Very good, thank you for the response. I just have one other question as a
follow up. I have 2 DNS servers in my company. The main DNS is set to
forward to my ISPs DNS and it's internal DNS pointer is to itself in IP
settings. On my 2nd DNS Server I have it pointing to the first as the
primary DNS and itself as the secondary in IP Settings. Is this the prefered
method for the secondary DNS server?
 
A

Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
Jeff Gamet said:
Very good, thank you for the response. I just have one other
question as a follow up. I have 2 DNS servers in my company. The
main DNS is set to forward to my ISPs DNS and it's internal DNS
pointer is to itself in IP settings. On my 2nd DNS Server I have it
pointing to the first as the primary DNS and itself as the secondary
in IP Settings. Is this the prefered method for the secondary DNS
server?

I would forward both individually to the ISP's. As for settings, there's a
couple schools of thought on this. I usually go by the fact if they are in
the same Site, I point to the second one first, then itself on both of them,
not just the one. This eliminates an old error (already addressed by a
Win2000 SP1) conerning "DNS becomes an Island". Look it up for more info. It
also addresses th efact at boot time if the netlogon services is trying to
register prior to AD services fully up and running since the zone is stored
in AD, therefore the zone may not be quite available yet for the reg process
to occur. So ever since then, I used that as a basis for configuration. If
more than two, I would select one of them for the second entry for all DCs.
Now if across a WAN link, I would point it to itself, then the other one on
the other side of the WAN to prevent reg across the WAN.

I hope that helps.

Ace
 

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