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Gerry Cornell

Are there plans for updated Power Toys?

Comment on Windows XP Tweak Ui " This program might have minor
compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista".

TIA

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Gerry

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Enquire, plan and execute.
Stourport, England
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Chuck F.

I just downloaded Tweak VI for Vista and it seems ok..You need to fork
over around $30.00 if you want the full use of the applets.....
 
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Alexander Suhovey

Gerry Cornell said:
Are there plans for updated Power Toys?
Comment on Windows XP Tweak Ui " This program might have minor
compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista".

One of utilities I know and use - SyncToy - was updated to be compatible
with Vista based on customer requests.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...54-C975-4814-9649-CCE41AF06EB7&displaylang=en

So I guess your best bet is to let Microsoft know how much you need
particular Power Toy. I did it for SyncToy though I was actually asking for
it's features to be integrated to Vista's built-in Sync Center.
 
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Gerry Cornell

Alexander

That's amazing. An instance of Microsoft responding to customer
requests. You were lucky. Have you ever commented on a Knowledge Base
Article and wondered whether any KB Article has ever been rephrased or
changed as a result of customer comment? Have you ever wondered why
the Knowledge Base Search Engine has only ever had minor changes when
so many complain about how ineffective it is?

Do not get me wrong as I am not interested in bashing Microsoft but
it's history is littered with requests for modifications ignored.

An example is the problems caused by the disastrous approach in
Outlook Express to compacting. These were ignored for years and now
that they are changing to a new mail structure in Vista they finally
remedy the problem in Outlook Express.

Actually your comments regarding SyncToy may be a symptomatic of
Microsoft changing it's policy following the bundling together dispute
a few years ago. Encouraging small freeware unbundled products would
create a better image in the aftermath of the court case. It will be
interesting to see how they handle the products gained through the
acquisition of Sysinternals.

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Regards.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User

Is that the Powercalc from 'Tweakui for XP'?


Jan Kucera said:
Why is the PowerCalc incompatible with Vista?
How can I get it running?
 
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Alexander Suhovey

Gerry Cornell said:
Alexander

That's amazing. An instance of Microsoft responding to customer requests.
You were lucky. Have you ever commented on a Knowledge Base Article and
wondered whether any KB Article has ever been rephrased or changed as a
result of customer comment?

Well, I guess I am. I didn't have much of interactions with Microsoft but
when I reported an error on their web page some time ago I've got prompt
human response. I think when you deal with the company of that size, it
really depends on the communication channel you use.

I also had a good experience with several beta programs though I cannot say
I was super-active beta tester :)

For example, there's a thread on one of most popular russian computer forums
where Microsoft employees have asked for customer feedback on problems and
errors specific to localized versions of Windows and/or MUIs. It is now
several pages of not only feedback but actual conversation with MS reps.
Didn't look at it for some time though so can't say how it is going now.

I'd say if you wish your voice to be heard there are several options in the
order of effectiveness:
* Direct communication with MS employee (known personally or via blogs)
* Participating in beta programs (again, it's relatively direct commnication
with dev teams)
* Direct communication with appropriate MVP (which adds another layer
between you and actual feedback target but has it's pros since MVPs
represent users before Microsoft and it listens to them more closely)
*...
*...
* Using "submit feedback" forms on MS web site (I can only guess how much
layers of bureaucracy, filtering and merging your feedback will go through)
 
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Gerry Cornell

Alexander

I cannot speak Russian so that closes off one means of communicating
<G>!

I have no contact with Microsoft employees, living in a UK backwater.
Occasionally one encounters an employee in a newsgroup or forum but
this is infrequent and haphazard.

To beta test and be safe you need a separate computer. Something I do
not have! As I use my computer for work ,although tempted, I have held
back from beta testing.

I have a friendly relationship and contact with a number of MVPs. They
are, however, bound by the terms of a non-disclosure agreement. You
can make them aware of problems but you cannot expect feedback. They
are helpfull but they cannot say what Microsoft are doing to resolve
a problem, until it is in the public domain. In any event their voices
are often ignored. The compacting problems with Outlook Express is a
perfect illustration of how they were ignored for so long. However,
the belated changes may well have come about through the efforts of
Tom Koch and others.

In making any representations they are more likely to be heeded if
they relate to a flavour of the month issue for Microsoft. Microsoft
are involved with so many products and issues it is hard for a
non-Microsoft person to know which subject might get results and which
will be sidelined.

My experience has been that Feedback forms produce no feedback!


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Regards.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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James Colbert

Gerry Cornell said:
Alexander

I cannot speak Russian so that closes off one means of communicating <G>!

I have no contact with Microsoft employees, living in a UK backwater.
Occasionally one encounters an employee in a newsgroup or forum but this
is infrequent and haphazard.

To beta test and be safe you need a separate computer. Something I do not
have! As I use my computer for work ,although tempted, I have held back
from beta testing.


The fact that you have only one computer is not necessarily a hindrance to
beta testing. A dual boot will serve you well under these circumstances,
along with an imaging program suich as Acronis True Image. Even if you have
only one HD, if it is large enough, you can have your 'work partition' and
your 'beta partition'. ANd if not, HDs are pretty cheap these days. All
this, of course, is assuming your machine meets the hardware requirements
for the OS you would test.

James
 
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Alexander Suhovey

James Colbert said:
The fact that you have only one computer is not necessarily a hindrance to
beta testing. A dual boot will serve you well under these circumstances,
along with an imaging program suich as Acronis True Image.

Virtualization is another option when you don't need to test for
compatibility with specific hardware.
 
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James Colbert

Alexander Suhovey said:
Virtualization is another option when you don't need to test for
compatibility with specific hardware.

Indeed it is. The only VM software I've ever tried is MS's VPC, which was a
bit sluggish. My understanding, however, is that programs such as VMware
offer much better performance.


James
 
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Alexander Suhovey

James Colbert said:
Indeed it is. The only VM software I've ever tried is MS's VPC, which was
a bit sluggish. My understanding, however, is that programs such as VMware
offer much better performance.

Well, I cannot comment on VMWare vs. VPC performance since I didn't use
VMWare several years and I'm long time happy VPC user. AFAIK VMWare provides
more advanced management functions like multiple snapshots but for me these
are not a major selling point. Virtual PC and Virtual Server on the other
hand are free.
 
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Alexander Suhovey

Oh, and last time I checked VMWare wasn't LUA-compliant. For me as LUA freak
it is a major bug.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

It is an excellent option. The Longhorn Server beta testers are given lots
of information and encouragement by the Longhorn team on how to go about it.
 
M

Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User

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Jan Kucera

I understand this, and I understand that some XP related stuff can't work on
Vista. But I am not allowed to run calculator...even unsupported... why this
limitation?

Well...I see there is no solution other than wait to PowerToys for Vista...
;-)
Thanks for reply.
 
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Guest

Ok, back to the powertoy ....

Since Vista does not support the application, I tried to remove it using the
installer and it says you must have Windows XP in order to run the installer.
So how do I get it to run the uninstaller? Is there a KB article that shows
how to clean it out without running the uninstall program?
 

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