Pls Santa: Bring a free new Novell Essay Pad

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Morgan Ohlson

Should Novel-Essay-Pad, a text editor for the creative writer exist?

PRESENTATION COULD LOOK LIKE THIS
Novel Essay Pad [NEP]
This is a creative, philosopher or humanist essay body text editor with
specialized features. Effectively write and manage several open large
chapter or note-files. Uses extremely safe format that can be shown in any
texteditor. Write efficient in NEP and finnish lay out in word processor or
DTP.

For large text management it allows both many open NEP-windows and many open
tabbed files within each running application. Edit many open files as
charachter notes, chapters, chapter notes, to-do's, resources and research
notes. Still power left to run other applications as outliners
simultaneously.

There are (what I believe) two new features that doesn't exist in editors
before.
1) The color categories wich allows text to be used repetedly and mixed with
other text and still belong to a txt-color-category. Via a hotkey it can be
toggled to show or not show (as is for viewing, printout and export) This
feature. This is new, and for writing body text by far better compared to an
outliner. A std wordprocessor don't even come close. This feature will be
the ever after standard in essay writing editors. Se more below.
2) You can also open several NEP application windows. In each open NEP you
can load many tabbed files. Then you tell each open NEP a name to be shown
in the the OS quick-bar. You can have all chapters in one window, all notes
on charachters etc in one and to-do's and idea files in another.(is this
technically possible?). This way you can manage 20 or perhaps hundreds of
open files with no effort at all (safe std method with just a twitch).

Features: Minimum core memory usage /fast /large files /Drag & drop /tabs w
file name(See: EditPad Lite) /paragraph numbers /hotkeys (no flashy icons) /
cursor and pointer options (small & big, color) for low light LapTop use
/active line highlight /set std font /set font for "colored" text categories
(allow prnt & export of choosen txt) /autosave /redo in several steps /auto
install of OOo dictionary /add words to dictionary /senses weblinks
/statistics in status bar (Black body text category only): charachters,
words, word length, scentence lenght, page esteem., position, saved y/n,
file location /

Technically: NEP is a specialized dokument viewer + sxw-texteditor. In tech
terms it will be either a limited RTF or HTML or a slightly expanded rough
TXT.
Every document is a straight forward txt-file. All body text first (called
black category). Then follows "blue category" still as plain, readable txt.
Every colored paragraph has a simple texttag that explains 1) category and
2) the place it belongs to when viewed. After that comes "red category" in
same style. Both Blue and Red category have tags, but the black category
have not. This because the created text (black category) shall be clean and
never contaminated with any tags or other crap charachters.
This way the format can be plain txt, but arranged for viewing in NEP.
If any problem occures the user can print the main text that is first by
marking it. Also the notes can be printed the same way. This way no text or
note will be lost because of the software or format. Notes then will have
some small tags to it.
NEP show the document in the order it was written (or edited) according to
the text-tags belonging to each paragraph in the document. The user never
notice that text documents actually are saved sorted by category. It is
completly used as a normal text editor with just that powerful exception
that colored text is handled as a category that can be turned on /off
repetedly without ever loosing anything. All text categories are allways
autosaved in total.


MENUES
File: /save to txt, sxw or rtf(?) /save all files /insert file at line X
/print format, margins /print NEP files(spooler) /export limited color
category as choosen /refresh statistics

Edit: Cut /copy /paste /all /place marked txt after pragraf X(*1) /marked
text to blue category /marked text to red category(*3) /OS quick-bar name

Search: Goto paragraph X /goto percent of doc /goto end /page up /page down
/set bookmark(*2f) /goto bookmark /Goto prev bookmark /goto next bookmark
/speed search /search (w operators) AND,OR,NOT,PARAGRAPH replace /

View: line numbers /word wrap /allways ontop /margins /show spell faults
/show red txt /show blue txt /show body txt ((black (according to OS
appearence) is allways assigned as body text.))
=> Note, colors: (This assignes 3 hotkeys to a "text color". Each color
can be used repetedly in the file and instantly toggled on /off (show /not
show) with the hotkey. User can freely use any of the colors as notes,
keywords, content-notes, to-do's, alternative story or anything preferred.
Colors have all the same rank. The idea is that the file can contain text
that is not exported, printed or shown when toggled off (with a simple
hotkey), but still exists (safely) and can be shown in same window during
work)

Format: bold /underline /italics /large font (+X-point in options)

Spell: Spellcheck /add word to own dic

Options: View font, headline +points, print font /appearens cursor, pointer,
active line, background /minimize to tray /autoindent(on /off) /folders
preset / actions on closing /autosave /colored text pref. /statistic page
size.


*1. it's terrible when you "drag and drop" text and slip on the mouse
button, and loose the text in an unknown place in a huge file.
*2f. Bookmark: marked text becomes automatic the bookmark "name" (editable)+
number. Flag+number is shown at bookmark position.
*3,. Not that the color-categories are NOT hierarcical nodes as in an
outliner. Instead "blue" (and red) repetedly can be used as note-blocks at
many places in a file (chapter). You can have a blue line here, and a blue
paragraph there as you like to. All blue txt will allways relate to that one
"blue hotkey" (as red will) to toggle showing on or off. The toggled text
will allways remain in safe format and will be autosaved every time (!!!).
Compared to Sudden View NEPs colored levels also show or not shown in
printout, export etc.


Morgan O.
 
B

Ben

Should Novel-Essay-Pad, a text editor for the creative writer exist?

PRESENTATION COULD LOOK LIKE THIS
Novel Essay Pad [NEP]
This is a creative, philosopher or humanist essay body text editor with
specialized features. Effectively write and manage several open large
chapter or note-files. Uses extremely safe format that can be shown in any
texteditor. Write efficient in NEP and finnish lay out in word processor or
DTP.
<snip>

Have a look at Papel

"Papel is the great new free-form tool for creative writers. It runs on
the Windows platform, and allows you to write intuitively without
logical tasks interfering with the flow of your ideas."

http://www.beingarthurdent.co.uk/
 
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Morgan Ohlson

Have a look at these Morgan, did'nt read all your info, shall let you
sort things out.

yWriter
http://www.spacejock.com/yWriter.html

RoughDraft
http://www.rsalsbury.co.uk/rd_overview.htm

Most popular WordPads have some features. Some are extremly simple but those
who have features all are aimed towards data code writing.

My idea icludes 2 unique (?) features and a few less common in code
editors!!! (see thread above)
...and is ment to be a very small, clean, safe, 100% intuitive and basic
formats, but still specialized pad towards body text writing (as most code
editors are for coding).

Both of the mentioned have editors. (both already in my pc) yWriter is more
like a writing process manager and Rough Draft is an Editor + organizer
RoughDraft has some special lay-out-features to please those writing for
acting on screen and stage.

I often find that program creators "invent" old things that actually works
less good in applications compared to using "the principles and existing
parts of windows".

The "best" software is most likly to help user to arrange his work by using
already existing features in the OS (toolbars, open files icons etc).
When I got that kick to write some creative text it must be possible to open
the editor and write, write, write and knowning that everything easily can
be rearranged later on without losses, without extra learning etc.

Morgan O.
 
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Morgan Ohlson

Should Novel-Essay-Pad, a text editor for the creative writer exist?

PRESENTATION COULD LOOK LIKE THIS
Novel Essay Pad [NEP]
This is a creative, philosopher or humanist essay body text editor with
specialized features. Effectively write and manage several open large
chapter or note-files. Uses extremely safe format that can be shown in any
texteditor. Write efficient in NEP and finnish lay out in word processor or
DTP.
<snip>

Have a look at Papel

"Papel is the great new free-form tool for creative writers. It runs on
the Windows platform, and allows you to write intuitively without
logical tasks interfering with the flow of your ideas."

http://www.beingarthurdent.co.uk/

I have looked into Papel. That's also allready in my PC. Papel Have it's
pros. I guess that most will like it much.
But, why make a sperate desktop with icons, when you allready have a
desktop? Special formats.... that need learning, unnessary knowledge. I hate
writing in that and then wanting to migrate... or rearrange things in "odd"
formats.

My idea above is actually NOT what's already in the OS, but instead a
completly writing-adapted editor... just with tabbes. Everyone would be able
to start writing in it (with no regretts) from the first minute after
installation.


Morgan O.
 
M

Morgan Ohlson

Should Novel-Essay-Pad, a text editor for the creative writer exist?

PRESENTATION COULD LOOK LIKE THIS
Novel Essay Pad [NEP]
This is a creative, philosopher or humanist essay body text editor with
specialized features. Effectively write and manage several open large
chapter or note-files. Uses extremely safe format that can be shown in any
texteditor. Write efficient in NEP and finnish lay out in word processor or
DTP.

For large text management it allows both many open NEP-windows and many open
tabbed files within each running application. Edit many open files as
charachter notes, chapters, chapter notes, to-do's, resources and research
notes. Still power left to run other applications as outliners
simultaneously.

There are (what I believe) two new features that doesn't exist in editors
before.
1) The color categories wich allows text to be used repetedly and mixed with
other text and still belong to a txt-color-category. Via a hotkey it can be
toggled to show or not show (as is for viewing, printout and export) This
feature. This is new, and for writing body text by far better compared to an
outliner. A std wordprocessor don't even come close. This feature will be
the ever after standard in essay writing editors. Se more below.
2) You can also open several NEP application windows. In each open NEP you
can load many tabbed files. Then you tell each open NEP a name to be shown
in the the OS quick-bar. You can have all chapters in one window, all notes
on charachters etc in one and to-do's and idea files in another.(is this
technically possible?). This way you can manage 20 or perhaps hundreds of
open files with no effort at all (safe std method with just a twitch).

Features: Minimum core memory usage /fast /large files /Drag & drop /tabs w
file name(See: EditPad Lite) /paragraph numbers /hotkeys (no flashy icons) /
cursor and pointer options (small & big, color) for low light LapTop use
/active line highlight /set std font /set font for "colored" text categories
(allow prnt & export of choosen txt) /autosave /redo in several steps /auto
install of OOo dictionary /add words to dictionary /senses weblinks
/statistics in status bar (Black body text category only): charachters,
words, word length, scentence lenght, page esteem., position, saved y/n,
file location /

Technically: NEP is a specialized dokument viewer + sxw-texteditor. In tech
terms it will be either a limited RTF or HTML or a slightly expanded rough
TXT.
Every document is a straight forward txt-file. All body text first (called
black category). Then follows "blue category" still as plain, readable txt.
Every colored paragraph has a simple texttag that explains 1) category and
2) the place it belongs to when viewed. After that comes "red category" in
same style. Both Blue and Red category have tags, but the black category
have not. This because the created text (black category) shall be clean and
never contaminated with any tags or other crap charachters.
This way the format can be plain txt, but arranged for viewing in NEP.
If any problem occures the user can print the main text that is first by
marking it. Also the notes can be printed the same way. This way no text or
note will be lost because of the software or format. Notes then will have
some small tags to it.
NEP show the document in the order it was written (or edited) according to
the text-tags belonging to each paragraph in the document. The user never
notice that text documents actually are saved sorted by category. It is
completly used as a normal text editor with just that powerful exception
that colored text is handled as a category that can be turned on /off
repetedly without ever loosing anything. All text categories are allways
autosaved in total.


MENUES
File: /save to txt, sxw or rtf(?) /save all files /insert file at line X
/print format, margins /print NEP files(spooler) /export limited color
category as choosen /refresh statistics

Edit: Cut /copy /paste /all /place marked txt after pragraf X(*1) /marked
text to blue category /marked text to red category(*3) /OS quick-bar name

Search: Goto paragraph X /goto percent of doc /goto end /page up /page down
/set bookmark(*2f) /goto bookmark /Goto prev bookmark /goto next bookmark
/speed search /search (w operators) AND,OR,NOT,PARAGRAPH replace /

View: line numbers /word wrap /allways ontop /margins /show spell faults
/show red txt /show blue txt /show body txt ((black (according to OS
appearence) is allways assigned as body text.))
=> Note, colors: (This assignes 3 hotkeys to a "text color". Each color
can be used repetedly in the file and instantly toggled on /off (show /not
show) with the hotkey. User can freely use any of the colors as notes,
keywords, content-notes, to-do's, alternative story or anything preferred.
Colors have all the same rank. The idea is that the file can contain text
that is not exported, printed or shown when toggled off (with a simple
hotkey), but still exists (safely) and can be shown in same window during
work)

Format: bold /underline /italics /large font (+X-point in options)

Spell: Spellcheck /add word to own dic

Options: View font, headline +points, print font /appearens cursor, pointer,
active line, background /minimize to tray /autoindent(on /off) /folders
preset / actions on closing /autosave /colored text pref. /statistic page
size.


*1. it's terrible when you "drag and drop" text and slip on the mouse
button, and loose the text in an unknown place in a huge file.
*2f. Bookmark: marked text becomes automatic the bookmark "name" (editable)+
number. Flag+number is shown at bookmark position.
*3,. Not that the color-categories are NOT hierarcical nodes as in an
outliner. Instead "blue" (and red) repetedly can be used as note-blocks at
many places in a file (chapter). You can have a blue line here, and a blue
paragraph there as you like to. All blue txt will allways relate to that one
"blue hotkey" (as red will) to toggle showing on or off. The toggled text
will allways remain in safe format and will be autosaved every time (!!!).
Compared to Sudden View NEPs colored levels also show or not shown in
printout, export etc.


Morgan O.

How do I make this to appear on the Pricelessware wishlist?


Morgan O.
 
S

Susan Bugher

Morgan said:
Should Novel-Essay-Pad, a text editor for the creative writer exist?

PRESENTATION COULD LOOK LIKE THIS
Novel Essay Pad [NEP]
This is a creative, philosopher or humanist essay body text editor with
specialized features. Effectively write and manage several open large
chapter or note-files. Uses extremely safe format that can be shown in any
texteditor. Write efficient in NEP and finnish lay out in word processor or
DTP.

For large text management it allows both many open NEP-windows and many open
tabbed files within each running application. Edit many open files as
charachter notes, chapters, chapter notes, to-do's, resources and research
notes. Still power left to run other applications as outliners
simultaneously.

There are (what I believe) two new features that doesn't exist in editors
before.
1) The color categories wich allows text to be used repetedly and mixed with
other text and still belong to a txt-color-category. Via a hotkey it can be
toggled to show or not show (as is for viewing, printout and export) This
feature. This is new, and for writing body text by far better compared to an
outliner. A std wordprocessor don't even come close. This feature will be
the ever after standard in essay writing editors. Se more below.
2) You can also open several NEP application windows. In each open NEP you
can load many tabbed files. Then you tell each open NEP a name to be shown
in the the OS quick-bar. You can have all chapters in one window, all notes
on charachters etc in one and to-do's and idea files in another.(is this
technically possible?). This way you can manage 20 or perhaps hundreds of
open files with no effort at all (safe std method with just a twitch).

Features: Minimum core memory usage /fast /large files /Drag & drop /tabs w
file name(See: EditPad Lite) /paragraph numbers /hotkeys (no flashy icons) /
cursor and pointer options (small & big, color) for low light LapTop use
/active line highlight /set std font /set font for "colored" text categories
(allow prnt & export of choosen txt) /autosave /redo in several steps /auto
install of OOo dictionary /add words to dictionary /senses weblinks
/statistics in status bar (Black body text category only): charachters,
words, word length, scentence lenght, page esteem., position, saved y/n,
file location /

Technically: NEP is a specialized dokument viewer + sxw-texteditor. In tech
terms it will be either a limited RTF or HTML or a slightly expanded rough
TXT.
Every document is a straight forward txt-file. All body text first (called
black category). Then follows "blue category" still as plain, readable txt.
Every colored paragraph has a simple texttag that explains 1) category and
2) the place it belongs to when viewed. After that comes "red category" in
same style. Both Blue and Red category have tags, but the black category
have not. This because the created text (black category) shall be clean and
never contaminated with any tags or other crap charachters.
This way the format can be plain txt, but arranged for viewing in NEP.
If any problem occures the user can print the main text that is first by
marking it. Also the notes can be printed the same way. This way no text or
note will be lost because of the software or format. Notes then will have
some small tags to it.
NEP show the document in the order it was written (or edited) according to
the text-tags belonging to each paragraph in the document. The user never
notice that text documents actually are saved sorted by category. It is
completly used as a normal text editor with just that powerful exception
that colored text is handled as a category that can be turned on /off
repetedly without ever loosing anything. All text categories are allways
autosaved in total.


MENUES
File: /save to txt, sxw or rtf(?) /save all files /insert file at line X
/print format, margins /print NEP files(spooler) /export limited color
category as choosen /refresh statistics

Edit: Cut /copy /paste /all /place marked txt after pragraf X(*1) /marked
text to blue category /marked text to red category(*3) /OS quick-bar name

Search: Goto paragraph X /goto percent of doc /goto end /page up /page down
/set bookmark(*2f) /goto bookmark /Goto prev bookmark /goto next bookmark
/speed search /search (w operators) AND,OR,NOT,PARAGRAPH replace /

View: line numbers /word wrap /allways ontop /margins /show spell faults
/show red txt /show blue txt /show body txt ((black (according to OS
appearence) is allways assigned as body text.))
=> Note, colors: (This assignes 3 hotkeys to a "text color". Each color
can be used repetedly in the file and instantly toggled on /off (show /not
show) with the hotkey. User can freely use any of the colors as notes,
keywords, content-notes, to-do's, alternative story or anything preferred.
Colors have all the same rank. The idea is that the file can contain text
that is not exported, printed or shown when toggled off (with a simple
hotkey), but still exists (safely) and can be shown in same window during
work)

Format: bold /underline /italics /large font (+X-point in options)

Spell: Spellcheck /add word to own dic

Options: View font, headline +points, print font /appearens cursor, pointer,
active line, background /minimize to tray /autoindent(on /off) /folders
preset / actions on closing /autosave /colored text pref. /statistic page
size.


*1. it's terrible when you "drag and drop" text and slip on the mouse
button, and loose the text in an unknown place in a huge file.
*2f. Bookmark: marked text becomes automatic the bookmark "name" (editable)+
number. Flag+number is shown at bookmark position.
*3,. Not that the color-categories are NOT hierarcical nodes as in an
outliner. Instead "blue" (and red) repetedly can be used as note-blocks at
many places in a file (chapter). You can have a blue line here, and a blue
paragraph there as you like to. All blue txt will allways relate to that one
"blue hotkey" (as red will) to toggle showing on or off. The toggled text
will allways remain in safe format and will be autosaved every time (!!!).
Compared to Sudden View NEPs colored levels also show or not shown in
printout, export etc.
How do I make this to appear on the Pricelessware wishlist?

Instructions are on the "Freeware Wish List" web page. Your "wish"
should be one paragraph in length. IOW it must conform to the format of
the web page. See:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/FreewareWishList.php

Susan
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Morgan Ohlson

Morgan said:
Should Novel-Essay-Pad, a text editor for the creative writer exist?

PRESENTATION COULD LOOK LIKE THIS
Novel Essay Pad [NEP]
This is a creative, philosopher or humanist essay body text editor with
specialized features. Effectively write and manage several open large
chapter or note-files. Uses extremely safe format that can be shown in any
texteditor. Write efficient in NEP and finnish lay out in word processor or
DTP.

For large text management it allows both many open NEP-windows and many open
tabbed files within each running application. Edit many open files as
charachter notes, chapters, chapter notes, to-do's, resources and research
notes. Still power left to run other applications as outliners
simultaneously.

There are (what I believe) two new features that doesn't exist in editors
before.
1) The color categories wich allows text to be used repetedly and mixed with
other text and still belong to a txt-color-category. Via a hotkey it can be
toggled to show or not show (as is for viewing, printout and export) This
feature. This is new, and for writing body text by far better compared to an
outliner. A std wordprocessor don't even come close. This feature will be
the ever after standard in essay writing editors. Se more below.
2) You can also open several NEP application windows. In each open NEP you
can load many tabbed files. Then you tell each open NEP a name to be shown
in the the OS quick-bar. You can have all chapters in one window, all notes
on charachters etc in one and to-do's and idea files in another.(is this
technically possible?). This way you can manage 20 or perhaps hundreds of
open files with no effort at all (safe std method with just a twitch).

Features: Minimum core memory usage /fast /large files /Drag & drop /tabs w
file name(See: EditPad Lite) /paragraph numbers /hotkeys (no flashy icons) /
cursor and pointer options (small & big, color) for low light LapTop use
/active line highlight /set std font /set font for "colored" text categories
(allow prnt & export of choosen txt) /autosave /redo in several steps /auto
install of OOo dictionary /add words to dictionary /senses weblinks
/statistics in status bar (Black body text category only): charachters,
words, word length, scentence lenght, page esteem., position, saved y/n,
file location /

Technically: NEP is a specialized dokument viewer + sxw-texteditor. In tech
terms it will be either a limited RTF or HTML or a slightly expanded rough
TXT.
Every document is a straight forward txt-file. All body text first (called
black category). Then follows "blue category" still as plain, readable txt.
Every colored paragraph has a simple texttag that explains 1) category and
2) the place it belongs to when viewed. After that comes "red category" in
same style. Both Blue and Red category have tags, but the black category
have not. This because the created text (black category) shall be clean and
never contaminated with any tags or other crap charachters.
This way the format can be plain txt, but arranged for viewing in NEP.
If any problem occures the user can print the main text that is first by
marking it. Also the notes can be printed the same way. This way no text or
note will be lost because of the software or format. Notes then will have
some small tags to it.
NEP show the document in the order it was written (or edited) according to
the text-tags belonging to each paragraph in the document. The user never
notice that text documents actually are saved sorted by category. It is
completly used as a normal text editor with just that powerful exception
that colored text is handled as a category that can be turned on /off
repetedly without ever loosing anything. All text categories are allways
autosaved in total.


MENUES
File: /save to txt, sxw or rtf(?) /save all files /insert file at line X
/print format, margins /print NEP files(spooler) /export limited color
category as choosen /refresh statistics

Edit: Cut /copy /paste /all /place marked txt after pragraf X(*1) /marked
text to blue category /marked text to red category(*3) /OS quick-bar name

Search: Goto paragraph X /goto percent of doc /goto end /page up /page down
/set bookmark(*2f) /goto bookmark /Goto prev bookmark /goto next bookmark
/speed search /search (w operators) AND,OR,NOT,PARAGRAPH replace /

View: line numbers /word wrap /allways ontop /margins /show spell faults
/show red txt /show blue txt /show body txt ((black (according to OS
appearence) is allways assigned as body text.))
=> Note, colors: (This assignes 3 hotkeys to a "text color". Each color
can be used repetedly in the file and instantly toggled on /off (show /not
show) with the hotkey. User can freely use any of the colors as notes,
keywords, content-notes, to-do's, alternative story or anything preferred.
Colors have all the same rank. The idea is that the file can contain text
that is not exported, printed or shown when toggled off (with a simple
hotkey), but still exists (safely) and can be shown in same window during
work)

Format: bold /underline /italics /large font (+X-point in options)

Spell: Spellcheck /add word to own dic

Options: View font, headline +points, print font /appearens cursor, pointer,
active line, background /minimize to tray /autoindent(on /off) /folders
preset / actions on closing /autosave /colored text pref. /statistic page
size.


*1. it's terrible when you "drag and drop" text and slip on the mouse
button, and loose the text in an unknown place in a huge file.
*2f. Bookmark: marked text becomes automatic the bookmark "name" (editable)+
number. Flag+number is shown at bookmark position.
*3,. Not that the color-categories are NOT hierarcical nodes as in an
outliner. Instead "blue" (and red) repetedly can be used as note-blocks at
many places in a file (chapter). You can have a blue line here, and a blue
paragraph there as you like to. All blue txt will allways relate to that one
"blue hotkey" (as red will) to toggle showing on or off. The toggled text
will allways remain in safe format and will be autosaved every time (!!!).
Compared to Sudden View NEPs colored levels also show or not shown in
printout, export etc.
How do I make this to appear on the Pricelessware wishlist?

Instructions are on the "Freeware Wish List" web page. Your "wish"
should be one paragraph in length. IOW it must conform to the format of
the web page. See:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/FreewareWishList.php

Something like this?

REQ: NovelEssayPad. A supersafe txt-editor, small (hotkeys, no icons). Huge
files editor and viewer that allows files with tabbes and several open
application windows. Auto installs existing OOo dic. Writers stat's. Saving
TXT-files but allows "red and blue text notes categories" repetedly occuring
as paragraphs inside body text. Red and blue notes are saved after body text
in txt-file. In full at:
http://groups.google.se/group/alt.c...9fcc7?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=sv#03d9c4b489e9fcc7
WHY: 2 increadible new(?) features for essay writers! Also improving
writing: safety, use, editing and organizing for pros and dummies.


Morgan O.
 
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Susan Bugher

Something like this?

REQ: NovelEssayPad. A supersafe txt-editor, small (hotkeys, no icons). Huge
files editor and viewer that allows files with tabbes and several open
application windows. Auto installs existing OOo dic. Writers stat's. Saving
TXT-files but allows "red and blue text notes categories" repetedly occuring
as paragraphs inside body text. Red and blue notes are saved after body text
in txt-file. In full at:
http://groups.google.se/group/alt.c...9fcc7?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=sv#03d9c4b489e9fcc7
WHY: 2 increadible new(?) features for essay writers! Also improving
writing: safety, use, editing and organizing for pros and dummies.

Hi Morgan,

I think the request is a bit lacking in clarity. Maybe it's just me -
comments from others please if that's the case.

anyway. . . I suggest something more like this:

REQUIREMENTS: Text editor with dictionary and statistics (word count
etc.) capability. Ability to open many large files at once in tabbed
windows. Special "red and blue notes" capability that allows such notes
to be shown in any location in the text but saves the "red and blue
notes" after the "normal" text.
WHY NEEDED: No Existing Freeware (Morgan Ohlson)

BTW - the Text Editor Review page has some good info about text editor
features - dunno if you've looked at it yet:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/TextEditorReview.php

Susan
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Morgan Ohlson

Hi Morgan,

I think the request is a bit lacking in clarity. Maybe it's just me -
comments from others please if that's the case.

anyway. . . I suggest something more like this:

REQUIREMENTS: Text editor with dictionary and statistics (word count
etc.) capability. Ability to open many large files at once in tabbed
windows. Special "red and blue notes" capability that allows such notes
to be shown in any location in the text but saves the "red and blue
notes" after the "normal" text.
WHY NEEDED: No Existing Freeware (Morgan Ohlson)

BTW - the Text Editor Review page has some good info about text editor
features - dunno if you've looked at it yet:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/TextEditorReview.php

I have read about a hundred free editors by now and installed perhaps ~20.

....but I didn't find the Pricelessware review page. Why is the link not on
the application list page... or have I gone blind?

Note! The statistics essay writers need is not (likly) the same as for
coders. Words count is common but words/scentence and word-length are very
rare! (for analyzing language complexity /reader level)
I thinkt there are quite a few small, but maybe essantial things that can
be done for text writers that are not much explored or tried in editors.
But, if implemented less intuitive they will be useless.

Still the point is that it is a small and fast body text tool. No WYSIWYG,
no icons, no rulers.


Morgan O.
 
S

Susan Bugher

I have read about a hundred free editors by now and installed perhaps ~20.
...but I didn't find the Pricelessware review page. Why is the link not on
the application list page... or have I gone blind?

All ACF pages are listed in the site index:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/#acf
(The program info table only shows links to pages in the program info
group.)
Note! The statistics essay writers need is not (likly) the same as for
coders. Words count is common but words/scentence and word-length are very
rare! (for analyzing language complexity /reader level)

Then for clarity the wish should probably be more specific:

REQUIREMENTS: Text editor for writers with dictionary and statistics
(word count, word length, sentence count etc.) capability. Ability to
open many large files at once in tabbed windows. Special "red and blue
notes" capability that allows such notes to be shown in any location in
the text but saves the "red and blue notes" after the "normal" text.
WHY NEEDED: No Existing Freeware (Morgan Ohlson)

Does the "wish" need other revisions?

Susan
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Morgan Ohlson

All ACF pages are listed in the site index:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/#acf
(The program info table only shows links to pages in the program info
group.)


Then for clarity the wish should probably be more specific:

REQUIREMENTS: Text editor for writers with dictionary and statistics
(word count, word length, sentence count etc.) capability. Ability to
open many large files at once in tabbed windows. Special "red and blue
notes" capability that allows such notes to be shown in any location in
the text but saves the "red and blue notes" after the "normal" text.
WHY NEEDED: No Existing Freeware (Morgan Ohlson)

Does the "wish" need other revisions?

I will digest this some hours.

It sounds easy to describe a txtpad. I'm laughing at myself. But, new
thinking turns easily out as "old stuff" I suppose, if explained in an old
manner.

It mustn't loos the small, fast pad-charachteristics either because it then
looses it's versatility.

I'll be back soon.


Morgan O.
 
M

Morgan Ohlson

All ACF pages are listed in the site index:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/#acf
(The program info table only shows links to pages in the program info
group.)


Then for clarity the wish should probably be more specific:

REQUIREMENTS: Text editor for writers with dictionary and statistics
(word count, word length, sentence count etc.) capability. Ability to
open many large files at once in tabbed windows. Special "red and blue
notes" capability that allows such notes to be shown in any location in
the text but saves the "red and blue notes" after the "normal" text.
WHY NEEDED: No Existing Freeware (Morgan Ohlson)

Does the "wish" need other revisions?

Susan

BACKGROUND: People who have the gift to write in a straight line from Ch1 to
ch15 doesn't need much artificial help. Another big group develop their
stories almost like laying a huge jiggsaw puzzle. Very often questions like
this arise: "Have I droped info about this character in this chapter (file)
or in a chapter before?" The key is to get a good feeling about text and
story. No clouds should come between writer and story. Smooth navigation and
some impossible bird perspective would have an increadible value if it
worked as a breeze... For reliability all files can be opened & edited in
any txt editor (notes shown as aftertext).


__The Wishlist__ (text and story writing with navigation format only)

REQUIREMENTS: Fast hotkey based txtpad for creative writing. Spelling, book-
marks and statistics (count: words, word length, sentences etc)
capabilities. Ability to open >15x ~3Mb files at once (each) in tabbed (>3x)
windows w weak screen options. Special "Red and blue notes" in any text
location to be shown /not shown via hotkey. "Red and blue notes" saves after
the body text.
WHY NEEDED: No Existing Freeware


Morgan O.
 
S

Susan Bugher

REQUIREMENTS: Fast hotkey based txtpad for creative writing. Spelling, book-
marks and statistics (count: words, word length, sentences etc)
capabilities. Ability to open >15x ~3Mb files at once (each) in tabbed (>3x)
windows w weak screen options. Special "Red and blue notes" in any text
location to be shown /not shown via hotkey. "Red and blue notes" saves after
the body text.
WHY NEEDED: No Existing Freeware

Thanks Morgan,

I'll try to revise the Freeware Wish List page fairly soon (will post
when I have it uploaded).

Susan
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Morgan Ohlson

Should Novel-Essay-Pad, a text editor for the creative writer exist?

PRESENTATION COULD LOOK LIKE THIS
Novel Essay Pad [NEP]
This is a creative, philosopher or humanist essay body text editor with
specialized features. Effectively write and manage several open large
chapter or note-files. Uses extremely safe format that can be shown in any
texteditor. Write efficient in NEP and finnish lay out in word processor or
DTP.

For large text management it allows both many open NEP-windows and many open
tabbed files within each running application. Edit many open files as
charachter notes, chapters, chapter notes, to-do's, resources and research
notes. Still power left to run other applications as outliners
simultaneously.

There are (what I believe) two new features that doesn't exist in editors
before.
1) The color categories wich allows text to be used repetedly and mixed with
other text and still belong to a txt-color-category. Via a hotkey it can be
toggled to show or not show (as is for viewing, printout and export) This
feature. This is new, and for writing body text by far better compared to an
outliner. A std wordprocessor don't even come close. This feature will be
the ever after standard in essay writing editors. Se more below.
2) You can also open several NEP application windows. In each open NEP you
can load many tabbed files. Then you tell each open NEP a name to be shown
in the the OS quick-bar. You can have all chapters in one window, all notes
on charachters etc in one and to-do's and idea files in another.(is this
technically possible?). This way you can manage 20 or perhaps hundreds of
open files with no effort at all (safe std method with just a twitch).

Features: Minimum core memory usage /fast /large files /Drag & drop /tabs w
file name(See: EditPad Lite) /paragraph numbers /hotkeys (no flashy icons) /
cursor and pointer options (small & big, color) for low light LapTop use
/active line highlight /set std font /set font for "colored" text categories
(allow prnt & export of choosen txt) /autosave /redo in several steps /auto
install of OOo dictionary /add words to dictionary /senses weblinks
/statistics in status bar (Black body text category only): charachters,
words, word length, scentence lenght, page esteem., position, saved y/n,
file location /

Technically: NEP is a specialized dokument viewer + sxw-texteditor. In tech
terms it will be either a limited RTF or HTML or a slightly expanded rough
TXT.
Every document is a straight forward txt-file. All body text first (called
black category). Then follows "blue category" still as plain, readable txt.
Every colored paragraph has a simple texttag that explains 1) category and
2) the place it belongs to when viewed. After that comes "red category" in
same style. Both Blue and Red category have tags, but the black category
have not. This because the created text (black category) shall be clean and
never contaminated with any tags or other crap charachters.
This way the format can be plain txt, but arranged for viewing in NEP.
If any problem occures the user can print the main text that is first by
marking it. Also the notes can be printed the same way. This way no text or
note will be lost because of the software or format. Notes then will have
some small tags to it.
NEP show the document in the order it was written (or edited) according to
the text-tags belonging to each paragraph in the document. The user never
notice that text documents actually are saved sorted by category. It is
completly used as a normal text editor with just that powerful exception
that colored text is handled as a category that can be turned on /off
repetedly without ever loosing anything. All text categories are allways
autosaved in total.


MENUES
File: /save to txt, sxw or rtf(?) /save all files /insert file at line X
/print format, margins /print NEP files(spooler) /export limited color
category as choosen /refresh statistics

Edit: Cut /copy /paste /all /place marked txt after pragraf X(*1) /marked
text to blue category /marked text to red category(*3) /OS quick-bar name

Search: Goto paragraph X /goto percent of doc /goto end /page up /page down
/set bookmark(*2f) /goto bookmark /Goto prev bookmark /goto next bookmark
/speed search /search (w operators) AND,OR,NOT,PARAGRAPH replace /

View: line numbers /word wrap /allways ontop /margins /show spell faults
/show red txt /show blue txt /show body txt ((black (according to OS
appearence) is allways assigned as body text.))
=> Note, colors: (This assignes 3 hotkeys to a "text color". Each color
can be used repetedly in the file and instantly toggled on /off (show /not
show) with the hotkey. User can freely use any of the colors as notes,
keywords, content-notes, to-do's, alternative story or anything preferred.
Colors have all the same rank. The idea is that the file can contain text
that is not exported, printed or shown when toggled off (with a simple
hotkey), but still exists (safely) and can be shown in same window during
work)

Format: bold /underline /italics /large font (+X-point in options)

Spell: Spellcheck /add word to own dic

Options: View font, headline +points, print font /appearens cursor, pointer,
active line, background /minimize to tray /autoindent(on /off) /folders
preset / actions on closing /autosave /colored text pref. /statistic page
size.


*1. it's terrible when you "drag and drop" text and slip on the mouse
button, and loose the text in an unknown place in a huge file.
*2f. Bookmark: marked text becomes automatic the bookmark "name" (editable)+
number. Flag+number is shown at bookmark position.
*3,. Not that the color-categories are NOT hierarcical nodes as in an
outliner. Instead "blue" (and red) repetedly can be used as note-blocks at
many places in a file (chapter). You can have a blue line here, and a blue
paragraph there as you like to. All blue txt will allways relate to that one
"blue hotkey" (as red will) to toggle showing on or off. The toggled text
will allways remain in safe format and will be autosaved every time (!!!).
Compared to Sudden View NEPs colored levels also show or not shown in
printout, export etc.

Morgan O.

When writing I have found my self very often staring up. Yes. It so happens
that most of the writing is on top of the "paper" which in most cases occur
in the upper part of the screen.

Another smart pad-function would be:
....when writing /editing at the same paragraph the application should sense
this and slowly scroll down the document. The perfect writing point is
probably ~10% above screen horizontal center line.

I also noted that EditPad Lite has a key-function that makes scrolling fast
or normal. That's smart!

The pad's fast operation gives some relaxing sense that you have almost the
same level of control as using a mechanical typewriter.

Does small TextPads need to be made in machine-code or can they keep this
fast mech-sense also made in higher level languages?


Morgan O.
 

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