[PL] PL2006 Program Submittals

[REM]

Have no problem seeing yours, but haven't been able to see any of Susan's
for quite some time \

Hmmm, something is up... she's been quite busy!

 

[Susan Bugher]

Suggest name revision: Bart's PE Builder

This was listed simply as "PE Builder."

Been there, checked that out last year. The name *is* PE Builder. Take a
look at the screen shot on the home page. You could ask the *author* to
change it.

Home page:
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Susan
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[Susan Bugher]

Mozilla Firefox (was Mozilla Firebird) (was Phoenix)

Mozilla Thunderbird

These are already listed. Did you change something in the descriptions?

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[Mike Bourke]

Sounds like you may have accidentally added her to your Killfile. Try
temporarily disabling the message filter rules you've set up and seeing if
you can then get Susan's postings. You should then be able to reenable and
apply them to ACF one at a time until her posts dissappear to discover which
one's the offending item.

Mike

 

[REM]

Been there, checked that out last year. The name *is* PE Builder. Take a
look at the screen shot on the home page. You could ask the *author* to
change it.

Hmmm, I emailed Bart and asked him to review the program name,
description and the category the program is listed in.

System Utilities\Boot Disk Creator

I also asked for permission to include the program in the 2006 CD
while I was at it... more after I get a reply.

 

[Steven Burn]

Sounds like you may have accidentally added her to your Killfile. Try
temporarily disabling the message filter rules you've set up and seeing if
you can then get Susan's postings. You should then be able to reenable and
apply them to ACF one at a time until her posts dissappear to discover which
one's the offending item.

Checked that the very first time I noticed it and it was not the cause,
thanks anyway )

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[REM]

These are already listed. Did you change something in the descriptions?

I _thought_ that I changed versions from 1.06 to 1.07. I'm not sure
where I got the old info from, but yes, the current descriptions are
up to date, my bad.

 

[Susan Bugher]

I propose allowing simple program names and versions to be submitted
for the remainder of the nomination process.

I disagree.

I'll chip in on

re-validating the information or looking up any new info. Hopefully a
few of us can split the list up and work through it quickly.

I will list apps after you or others verify the descriptions.

Things do change. You aren't/weren't happy about PGP Freeware being on
PL2005 - A few days ago I spent quite a bit of time looking at the info
about the current "free" version - it's infinitely worse than the
version you objected to so strenuously.

ISTM it's all too easy to grandfather apps in based on an earlier
version. IMO this is the best time to weed out programs that have become
bad apples.

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[REM]

I disagree.

I will list apps after you or others verify the descriptions.

No problem. I'll try to devote more time this week in validating
program descriptions. I'm not going to do so for programs that I am
not going to nominate, but if someone else wants to nominate it and
does not have the time to validate I'll lend a hand.

Things do change. You aren't/weren't happy about PGP Freeware being on
PL2005 - A few days ago I spent quite a bit of time looking at the info
about the current "free" version - it's infinitely worse than the
version you objected to so strenuously.

That's why I requested versions that others might want to nominate.
I'm hoping that nothing is requested to be grandfathered similar to
the following:

Are you talking about this thread?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt....b?q=2005+PL+PGP&rnum=1&hl=en#ff8a2f237313cbfb

Yes, I'm not sure how the newer (crippled, liteware) version was voted
as Priceless. I myself might have inadvertantly voted for it. I hope
not.

The problem here is that the international (non-zimmermann) version
was pretty solid. We had the (somewhat evil) NAI corp. owning it and
crippling it, we had Zimmermann re-acquire the program and hopes of
the program returning to it's original uncrippled freeware status, and
we had older international versions released by others.

At the time of the thread, I considered the program crippled badly.

The good versions are still available.

From zimmermann's page:

"No differences in cryptographic strength
There is no significant difference between any version of PGP you get
inside the US and the corresponding version you get from outside the
US, as far as cryptographic strength is concerned. There is no
difference in key sizes, quality of the cryptographic algorithms, or
any other differences in cryptographic security characteristics.
Regardless of whether you got it from the MIT site, Network
Associates, PGP Corporation, or the www.pgpi.org site, all versions of
PGP that I have been associated with are secure, and no versions have
ever been weakened for export or for any other reason, in the history
of PGP since the first release in 1991. This is true at least up
through PGP version 9.0. If my own assurances are not convincing
enough, you can always download the PGP source code and check it
yourself."

It looks like the older versions are plenty strong.

Unfortunately, PGP is not returning to its freeware roots.

ISTM it's all too easy to grandfather apps in based on an earlier
version. IMO this is the best time to weed out programs that have become
bad apples.

Very true. This is the time to clean house. It's also the time to get
the info updated for the programs that are to be nominated though. I
seem to be having spasms of free time. I'll happily try to see that
all quality programs are re-validated asap.

 

[Susan Bugher]

The good versions are still available.

Some earlier versions have been removed - the links redirect to the
latest "free" version => PGP Desktop 9.0 Trial Software.

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[REM]

Some earlier versions have been removed - the links redirect to the
latest "free" version => PGP Desktop 9.0 Trial Software.

Not good. Most of the links on this page seem to be good. I got a
couple of 404s. Temp or permanent I don't know...

http://www.pgpi.org/cgi/download.cgi?filename=PGPfreeware602i.exe

This is for PGP v6.0.2i, which is the last real freeware version that
contains PGPdisk iirc.

I can see from Zimmermann's page that he recommends the MIT page, but
it has been discontinued due to the age of the program and problems
with newer operating systems.

This means that it will probably be best to go with another program,
such as TrueCrypt this year.

I, btw, bought the commercial version of PGP. I'm a bit worried that
my PGP driver might conflict with other products, so, if anyone else
has any experience with freeware encryption programs this would be a
really great time to discuss them.

 

[REM]

Checked that the very first time I noticed it and it was not the cause,
thanks anyway )

Man, I wonder if your feed has pegged her as a spammer???

Both TeraNews and the place my ISP outsources news feeds to do a
pretty good job in removal of spam. I wonder if yours is possibly too
aggessive?

 

[Steven Burn]

Man, I wonder if your feed has pegged her as a spammer???

Both TeraNews and the place my ISP outsources news feeds to do a
pretty good job in removal of spam. I wonder if yours is possibly too
aggessive?

It's certainly possible, though I've spoken to them about it before and
they've no idea whats going on either.

When Individual stopped being free, I had to revert to my ISP's feeds as I
either couldn't afford the others, or couldn't get them to work.

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[REM]

It's certainly possible, though I've spoken to them about it before and
they've no idea whats going on either.

That'd be a hoot!

When Individual stopped being free, I had to revert to my ISP's feeds as I
either couldn't afford the others, or couldn't get them to work.

Check your email at Ur I.T. Mate Group, please!

 

[Susan Bugher]

EditPad Lite

Home Page: download v 5.4.5 (2005-09-28) [ SetupEditPadLite.exe (973
KB)]
http://www.editpadlite.com/editpadlite.html
(desc. rev.: 2005-09-28)

Revision date changed to that of the last release date:

EditPad Lite 5.4.5 - Released 28 September 2005

The release date is shown right after the version info: v 5.4.5
(2005-09-28). The "desc. rev." date refers to changes on the PL web
page. (FWIW - I'm showing a new date for descriptions that have been
verified even though the web page may not have changed.)

The Linux version is available separately.

I added a note that the file name shown is for Windows.

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[Susan Bugher]

Please note: ALL programs must have a checked/updated program
description submitted to be elegible for nomination for PL2006. That
includes apps that are on this year's PL.

This is the web page that currently has the most recent version of ALL
program descriptions (including PL2005 apps). Programs that already have
posted/listed descriptions are so noted.
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_programs.php

The current nomination list is here:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2006/2006PL-Nominations.php


Susan

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listed 1by1
listed 2xExplorer
listed 40tude Dialog
listed 4DOS
listed 7-Zip
listed Ad-Aware
listed Agent Ransack
listed All-Purpose Spell Checker (APSC)
listed AllChars
listed AllDone
listed ALZip
listed AM-DeadLink
listed AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic (AntiVir Personal Edition)
listed Any Password
listed AR RAM Disk
listed Atlantis Nova
listed Audacity
listed AutoHotkey
listed Autoruns
listed AVA FIND
listed avast!
listed AVG Anti-Virus System
listed AxCrypt
listed Belarc Advisor
listed Billy
listed Bulk Rename Utility
listed Calendar Magic
listed Catfish
listed Cathy
listed CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)
listed CDCheck
listed CDex
listed Clipomatic
listed Cobian Backup
listed ConText
listed Converse
listed Convert
listed Crypt Edit
listed dBpowerAMP Music Converter (dMC)
listed DeepBurner Free
listed DelinvFile
listed Dexpot
listed Dimension 4
listed dirhtml
listed DirKey
listed DLExpert
listed Drive Rescue
listed DVDSig
listed EasyCleaner
listed eCleaner
listed EditBINI
listed EditPad Lite
listed Emergency Recovery Utility NT (ERUNT)
listed EppieDesktop
listed F-Prot Antivirus for DOS
listed FileMap by BB
listed Filemon
listed FileNote
listed FLAC
listed Foobar2000
listed Free Download Manager (FDM)
listed FreeMind
listed General Search And Replace (GSAR)
listed Graph Paper Printer
listed HTMSTRIP
listed Index.dat Suite
listed Info-Rapid Search & Replace
listed IZArc
listed JPEG Cleaner
listed K9
listed Karen's Replicator
listed KeePass Password Safe
listed Kerio Personal Firewall
listed KeyNote
listed KNOPPIX
listed LAME (compiled)
listed Lister
listed Magic Mail Monitor
listed MD5Summer
listed Media Player Classic
listed MetaPad
listed MiKTeX
listed Mozilla Firefox (was Mozilla Firebird) (was Phoenix)
listed Mozilla Thunderbird
listed MP3Gain
listed MWSnap
listed Net Transport
listed nLite
listed OE Reader (was MiTeC DBX Viewer)
listed OffByOne
listed Open Object Rexx
listed OpenOffice.org
listed Opera
listed Partition Saving (was Savepart)
listed Path Copy (PathCopy)
listed PDFCreator
listed Pdftk - the PDF Toolkit
listed PE Builder
listed Pegasus Mail
listed POP Peeper
listed POPFile
listed Power-Grab (PowerGrab 2002)
listed PowerDesk
listed Process Explorer
listed Programmer's File Editor (PFE)
listed PSPad
listed PStart
listed PUI (Program Uninstallation Information)
listed QuickDic
listed Quintessential Player (QCD)
listed R
listed Rainlendar
listed Ramdrive.EXE Tools
listed Ranish Partition Manager
listed RegCleaner
listed RegMon
listed RegSeeker
listed ReplaceEm (was BK ReplaceEm)
listed Saver Starter
listed SciTE
listed Siren
listed Skype
listed SlickRun
listed Spybot Search & Destroy
listed SpywareBlaster
listed Sygate Personal Firewall
listed TextHarvest
listed The Font Thing
listed THE Rename
listed TheSage
listed TOMBO
listed Total Uninstall
listed TrackerV3
listed Traybar
listed Treepad Lite and Treepad Asia
listed TrueCrypt
listed UK's Kalender
listed Ultimate Boot CD for Windows (UBCD4Win) (was Windows Ultimate
Boot CD)
listed Unlocker
listed UUDWin
listed VanBasco's Karaoke Player
listed VLC (was VideoLAN Client)
listed WAssociate
listed Wherever Change Directory (wcd)
listed WinAmp Classic
listed WinAudit
listed WinDirStat
listed WinDriversBackup Personal Edition
listed Wink
listed WinPatrol
listed WordWeb
listed WorldTime
listed Xenu's Link Sleuth
listed XMS.EMS RAMdisk
listed Xnews
listed XOSL
listed XXCopy
listed Yankee Clipper III
listed ZipGenius
listed µTorrent

withdrawn ALFTP
withdrawn ALPass
withdrawn ALSee
On hold: incomplete AutoIt
withdrawn Babya bFile
withdrawn Babya Guitar Amp Pro
withdrawn Babya Logic
withdrawn Babya Piano Studio
withdrawn Babya UltraSynth
withdrawn EVEREST Home Edition
On hold IrfanView
On hold: incomplete NetRexx

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[Steven Burn]

Check your email at Ur I.T. Mate Group, please!

Received it, thankyou ) (apologies for the delay in responding)

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Keeping it FREE!

 

[Bjorn Simonsen]

This thread is for the submittal of programs to be considered for the 2006 Pricelessware List.

NVU
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2005/PL2005WEBDESIGN.php#2199-PW

Keep as is, no rev. needed.

//quoting current desc.

Nvu
(Betaware) (open source: MPL/LGPL/GPL tri-license)
Windows OS: Windows (32 bit)
Other OS: Mac OS X; Linux; Linspire
Languages: English
Description: Nvu (pronounced N-view, for a "new view") is a complete
Web Authoring System that combines web file management and easy-to-use
WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) web page editing. Nvu is
designed to be extremely easy to use, making it ideal for
non-technical computer users who want to create an attractive,
professional-looking web site without needing to know HTML or web
coding.
Company: Linspire Inc. Author: Daniel Glazman (lead developer)
Buzzy's review:
http://www.buzzys.net/nvu.html
Home Page:
http://www.nvu.com/
download page v 1.0 (2005-06-28) (Windows)
(nvu-1.0-win32-installer-full.exe) ((6729 KB));
(nvu-1.0-win32-full.zip) (7821 KB)
http://www.nvu.com/download.html
2005PL CD files: nvu-0.70-win32-installer-full.exe
nvu-0.70-win32-full.zip
//end quote

 

[Susan Bugher]

****** Only 6 more days till the start of nominations. ******

I need your help. Let's work together to make this the *best*
Pricelessware List yet.

Over half the current PW picks do not have posted description.
FileZilla, Maxthon, Mozilla, NoteTab Light, The Gimp, XnView, ZoneAlarm
- to name just a few. The full list is below. If your favorite program
is there please take a few minutes - check the description, update it as
needed and post it in this thread.

ALL programs must have a checked/updated program description submitted
to be elegible for nomination for PL2006.

This is the web page that currently has the most recent version of ALL
program descriptions (including PL2005 apps). Programs that already have
posted/listed descriptions are so noted.
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_programs.php

The current nomination list is here:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2006/2006PL-Nominations.php

Susan

********************************

Below is a list below of the *108* PL2005 programs that do not have
posted descriptions.

ActivIcons
Adobe Reader SpeedUp
Aida32
AtNotes
AVIcodec
Batchrun
Blender
Burnatonce
Buttonz & Tilez!
Cacheman
CDBurnerXP Pro
Chainsaw
ChangeIcon
Columbine Bookmark Merge (CBM)
Crimson Editor
Cygwin
DAEMON Tools
Debian
Dependency Walker
DLL Archive
Eraser
Ethereal
Exact Audio Copy (EAC)
ExamDiff
Exifer
Extended Character Map
FileZilla
FileZilla Server
Font Magic
Free Agent
Free Digital Camera Enhancer
freeCommander
Frhed
FTPpie
GhostScript
GoldenSectionNotes
Google Toolbar
GrabIt
GSpot
Hamster
Hosts File
HTML-Kit
HTTRACK (WinHTTrack)
IEradicator
Inno Setup
JAlbum
jv16 Powertools
K-meleon
LFN-Tools (Long FileNames in DOS)
Lupas Rename (Lupas 2000)
Mailwasher
Maxthon (was MyIE2)
MemLoad
Memtest86
MinGW
Miranda IM
MotherBoard Monitor (MBM)
MozBackup
Mozilla
mp3DirectCut
MPEG Audio Collection (MAC)
MultiRes
MyAlbum
Neutron
nnCron LITE
NoteTab Light
OE-Quotefix
Outlook-Quotefix
Password Safe
PGP Freeware (was Pretty Good Privacy) (PGP)
PhotoFiltre
Pixia
PowerArchiver
PowerPro
Push That Freakin' Button (PTFB)
PuTTY
Python
QuickTime Alternative
Ragtime Solo
Real Alternative
Registrar Lite
Resource Hacker
Revelation
RUNit
Sam Spade
Script Defender
SharpDevelop
SoftCAT
SpaceMonger
Speakonia
Spider
Start-Up Monitor (Startup Monitor)
Startup Control Panel
SuperFormat
TClockEx
The Gimp
The Proxomitron
The Regex Coach
TightVNC
TMPGEnc
TopStyle Lite
TreeCopy
TWEAK UI
TypeItIn
Ulead Gif Animator
VirtualDub
Visit URL
Visual Thought
VNC
Weather Watcher
WinMX
X-Fonter
X-Setup Pro (was Xteq X-Setup)
XnView
Xplorer²
YahooPOPs! (YPOPs!)
ZoneAlarm (Zone Alarm)
Zoner Draw 3

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[Susan Bugher]

Over half the current PW picks do not have posted description.
FileZilla, Maxthon, Mozilla, NoteTab Light, The Gimp, XnView, ZoneAlarm
- to name just a few.

hmmmm. . . no new descriptions posted. . . nothing. . . nada. . .


************* Plan B *****************

I suspect the group will want to *nominate* a whole lot of programs that
aren't on the current list of elegible programs. Making that happen is
going to require some drastic changes in the format of the Pricelessware
List. The only viable option I see ATM:

Program submittals will require this information:

Category/Subcategory
Program name
Company name and/or Author's name
Ware description
ONE URL (maximum)

The 2006 Pricelessware List will look like the ACF pages - there will be
no detailed descriptions. Note also: there will be no PL2006 CD (not
enough information).

Comments please.

Susan

********************************

Below is a list below of the *108* PL2005 programs that do not have
posted descriptions.

ActivIcons
Adobe Reader SpeedUp
Aida32
AtNotes
AVIcodec
Batchrun
Blender
Burnatonce
Buttonz & Tilez!
Cacheman
CDBurnerXP Pro
Chainsaw
ChangeIcon
Columbine Bookmark Merge (CBM)
Crimson Editor
Cygwin
DAEMON Tools
Debian
Dependency Walker
DLL Archive
Eraser
Ethereal
Exact Audio Copy (EAC)
ExamDiff
Exifer
Extended Character Map
FileZilla
FileZilla Server
Font Magic
Free Agent
Free Digital Camera Enhancer
freeCommander
Frhed
FTPpie
GhostScript
GoldenSectionNotes
Google Toolbar
GrabIt
GSpot
Hamster
Hosts File
HTML-Kit
HTTRACK (WinHTTrack)
IEradicator
Inno Setup
JAlbum
jv16 Powertools
K-meleon
LFN-Tools (Long FileNames in DOS)
Lupas Rename (Lupas 2000)
Mailwasher
Maxthon (was MyIE2)
MemLoad
Memtest86
MinGW
Miranda IM
MotherBoard Monitor (MBM)
MozBackup
Mozilla
mp3DirectCut
MPEG Audio Collection (MAC)
MultiRes
MyAlbum
Neutron
nnCron LITE
NoteTab Light
OE-Quotefix
Outlook-Quotefix
Password Safe
PGP Freeware (was Pretty Good Privacy) (PGP)
PhotoFiltre
Pixia
PowerArchiver
PowerPro
Push That Freakin' Button (PTFB)
PuTTY
Python
QuickTime Alternative
Ragtime Solo
Real Alternative
Registrar Lite
Resource Hacker
Revelation
RUNit
Sam Spade
Script Defender
SharpDevelop
SoftCAT
SpaceMonger
Speakonia
Spider
Start-Up Monitor (Startup Monitor)
Startup Control Panel
SuperFormat
TClockEx
The Gimp
The Proxomitron
The Regex Coach
TightVNC
TMPGEnc
TopStyle Lite
TreeCopy
TWEAK UI
TypeItIn
Ulead Gif Animator
VirtualDub
Visit URL
Visual Thought
VNC
Weather Watcher
WinMX
X-Fonter
X-Setup Pro (was Xteq X-Setup)
XnView
Xplorer²
YahooPOPs! (YPOPs!)
ZoneAlarm (Zone Alarm)
Zoner Draw 3

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