"People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'"

[Michael Jennings]

Proper usage reduces the potential problem to exactly nil. Most users
would rather not be bothered with proper usage - too much trouble.
WinMail is better for most users, who prefer not having to take care
by moving the store to another disk and making clone backups. If you
use OE and you don't do this, you chance kissing the store goodbye.

 

[Gary]

Yeah! Hard disks? Gimme mag tape! RAM? Gimme core memory!

I've actually done COBOL programming using punch cards. IBM 026, 029 and
129 keypunches! Those were the days, man.

Mike

Ahhhh yes you just haven't lived until you try and fix one of those 64K core
memory cards.
And YES those were the days. Kids don't know sh*t today.

 

[Frank]

Not at all. I can read you like a book. A 1st grade book.

See Frankie.
See Frankie whine.
See Frankie whine and stamp his feet.
See Frankie make an ass of himself.
See Frankie whine some more.
See Frankie pout.

I bet you got all of that from looking in a mirror didn't you.
LOL!
Frank

 

[Frank]

I know that most people who use Outhouse Express think that UPS stands
for United Parcel Service.

You know nothing!
Get lost fool.
Frank

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

For upgraders from Win 9x, it could be a veritable nightmare.. there was a
corresponding leap in the resources required.. XP was far less tolerant of
even minor hardware faults.. many modems, some keyboards, setups where
printers piggybacked onto scanners, and other hardware became defunct, as
did programs like Quicken 6 and Corel WordPerfect Suite 7.. PII's and low
end PIII's running 64mb RAM were about as much use as a chocolate coffee
pot..

But you know all of this..

* John John:

To most consumers who had never experienced Win2000,
because it wasn't aimed at the masses- WinXP was a huge
leap in performance and stability.


-Michael

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[XS11E]

And when XP was released, some came back and asked for Windows
98..

Not worth arguing with him, Mike. You know he has no idea what he's
talking about or he wouldn't have posted a completely bogus article.

Quicken, of course, runs perfectly on Vista Ultimate 64 for me.

The OP wants us to believe that "a computer industry analyst" is too
computer illiterate to run Quicken? The article is bogus and the OP is
merely displaying his ignorance of Vista.

 

[MICHAEL]

I also know, all that was worth it. XP was an
entirely different code base than Win9x, so
there was most definitely going to be issues
when the masses moved to XP.
Vista is *not* an entirely new code base.
It's more like a major update along the lines of
Windows 98SE or XP SP2.

I look back at XP and I remember some of the problems,
but I also remember how much better/faster/stable XP was
once the driver issues settled down. I haven't really experienced
many incompatibilities with Vista, that's not my point. My
Vista machines work well- but so did my XP machines. The
leap of performance and stability I felt when moving to XP,
I do not feel with Vista. I really feel like I've paid for nothing
more than a major service pack or XP Second Edition.

-Michael

* Mike Hall - MVP:

 

[Drew]

Why on God's green earth would one spend a frickin fortune on a good solid
running system and not put a ups on it ???..Probably the same people that
more or less forced Microsoft to put UAC in Vista...I have never owned a
computer that I did not have surge protection and battery backup on..You are
basically stupid if you don't

 

[carl feredeck]

people report that when the inbox-outbox grows bigger and bigger with
windows mail
because each message is a seperate eml file everything slows down to point
where it is irritating.

I havent reached so many messages yet on a vista machine.. but I can imagine
that what they are saying is true

 

[Telstar]

No no no.. that is not a good analogy.

A good analogy is that windows Me users wanted win98 back because WinMe
was crap!
The same thing is happening with winXP and Vista now.

Wrong.

I will not write any more words than that.

 

[Telstar]

Just because vista has a flashy theme doesnt make it better technology. It
doesnt really have much more to offer. Sorry.

I like new software... there is only one acception from all the software I
have ever used in my life. Vista.

Exception...can you spell?

Vista is new but it is so bad

Not supported diatribe. Go Away.

that even though my habbits are to always have

 

[Telstar]

Try compacting your messages and while it's doing it, pull the plug to
your computer.

Alias

You have exposed your true brain-dean idiocy...for the 1200th time.

 

[Telstar]

No, *you* are missing the point. No one called XP "a major leap" in
2001. It was called "2000 with eye candy".

You seem to have no memory of this. Amazing.

Mike

This is ABSOLUTELY true. Doesn't anyone have a freakin' memory? Or all you
all 11 year olds?

 

[Telstar]

What we also hear is the typical full of hot air Microsoft fanboy
badly faking trying to pass himself off as expert and using this
newsgroup to pontificate.

That shoe seems to fit not only you Mike, but way too many others that
infest this newsgroup and make it next to useless since they refuse to
be objective and only know how to sing the praises of Microsoft rather
than honestly trying to see BOTH sides of each issue and accepting
many people really do have serious issues with Vista and it has
nothing to do with drivers or hardware but failings of Vista itself
which fanboys refuse to admit exist.

Why did you post this illogical crap? I want to know.

 

[Telstar]

Yeah! Hard disks? Gimme mag tape! RAM? Gimme core memory!

I've actually done COBOL programming using punch cards. IBM 026, 029 and
129 keypunches! Those were the days, man.

Mike

LOL...i remember submitting 30,000 ordered punch cards to run a program at
night on a mainframe with 64meg of memory. It took a special compensation
from the Chancellor of the school I was at. It used too many resources

 

[Spanky deMonkey]

What is a Bullhonk? Just FYI

Adam Albright wrote:



BullHonk!!! It was Windows 2000 with a face full of makeup and fishnet
stockings!

John

 

[Alias]

You know nothing!
Get lost fool.
Frank

Can't refute so you hurl another lying insult. You're getting boring,
Frankie Boy.

Alias

 

[Alias]

You have exposed your true brain-dean idiocy...for the 1200th time.

My, my another who can't refute content and can only shoot the
messenger. Ever hear of a power outage?

Alias

 

[Alias]

Why on God's green earth would one spend a frickin fortune on a good
solid running system and not put a ups on it ???..Probably the same
people that more or less forced Microsoft to put UAC in Vista...I have
never owned a computer that I did not have surge protection and battery
backup on..You are basically stupid if you don't

True but do eMachines, HP, Packard Bell, Dell, et al include or even
mention a UPS when they sell their machines?

Alias

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

People have reported better performance with Windows Vista compared to
Windows XP on the same computer.
Those people with relevant comparisons have compared a Clean
Installation of Windows XP to a Clean Install of Windows Vista on the
same hardware.

It really sounds like Windows Vista is not right for you.
And since Windows XP will probably be supported for several more
years, there is no reason to upgrade unless there is something needed
in Windows Vista.

Try this and tell us which performs better.
Perform a Clean Installation of Windows XP on typical hardware
available at the time of Windows XP release nearly 6 years ago.
Do the same with Windows Vista with typical hardware available 6
months ago.
Which computer has the best performance?

Windows Vista performs well on two of my older computer.