Are you aware, Vista lifts PC sales by 67% in its first week


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Guest

NOTE: The HP new Computer Sales are most interesting...

Can't imagine what Vista Sales, via RTM as well as all new PCs will bring
next week, next quarter, apparently much greater than was ever anticipated.

(By Dina Bass )

February 9, 2007

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/303036_vistasales09.html

Microsoft Corp.'s new Windows Vista operating system spurred a 67 percent
increase in personal computer sales at U.S. retail stores in its first week
on the market, according to research firm Current Analysis Inc.

Hewlett-Packard Co. was the top PC seller by units during the week that
ended Saturday, with its share rising from about 33 percent to more than 50
percent, according to the report by San Diego-based analyst Samir Bhavnani.
Gateway Inc. was the No. 2 seller. Dell Inc., the world's second-largest PC
maker, wasn't included because the company doesn't sell through stores.

"It's one of the bigger sales weeks we have seen since 2003," Bhavnani said.
The increase compares with sales in the same week a year earlier. Current
Analysis declined to say how many PCs were sold in total in the week.

Customers had waited through two years of delays for Vista, the first new
Windows release for PCs since 2001. The first quarter typically is the
slowest for PC sales. While Vista will provide a boost, it probably won't
reverse that seasonal trend, Microsoft Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer
said.

Microsoft began selling Vista in stores on Jan. 30 after releasing it to
some businesses on Nov. 30. About 5.5 million consumers will buy copies of
Vista worldwide by the end of March, forecasts Roger Kay, an analyst at
Wayland, Mass.-based research firm Endpoint Technologies Associates. That
will rise to 29.2 million in the fourth quarter.

"There are a few people that are buying it just because it's available," Kay
said. "Vista is a mild stimulus for the market."

Bhavnani said the increase in the first week "compares very favorably" with
the first week Windows XP was on sale in 2001. XP went on sale six weeks
after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, during a time of slower business and
consumer spending. Also, XP was available on some PCs a few weeks before the
official release.

Seventy percent of the machines sold were loaded with Vista Home Premium, a
higher-priced version that analysts expect will add hundreds of millions of
dollars to Vista's sales this year.

Kevin Kutz, Microsoft Windows client communications director, said the
company is "pleased with the initial response to Windows Vista."
 
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Dustin Harper

A lot of people were putting off their PC purchase until Vista was launched,
as they didn't want XP and a month later have to buy a new OS.

Several people I know have been putting off their purchase for ~6 months.

--
Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com

--
 
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Chad Harris

I wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000 for
these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista OS DVD
for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting you're
really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding access to
Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
access to Win RE.

I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
partitions are a fool's crap.

CH
 
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Chad Harris

wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000 for
these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista OS DVD
for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting you're
really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding access to
Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
access to Win RE.

I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
partitions are a fool's crap.

CH
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Chad Harris said:
I wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000 for
these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista OS DVD
for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting you're
really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding access to
Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
access to Win RE.

I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
partitions are a fool's crap.


What the hell is Win RE? Did you just make that up?

ss.
 
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Guest

Hello Chad,

The number of people that did not receive the OS DVD likely will remain
unknown.

Never have I owned a HP PC.

My curiosity regarding HP was from pondering if their reported sales
included Compact, and likely the answer is yes, but I don't know...

Seriously, I'm beginning to think that perhaps the larger OEMs performed a
typical *rush* Upgrade just as many Posters within theses Forums, and never
realized the extent of their rush to judgment error.

My machines, just simple built to specs with Genuine Microsoft Products.

By the way, seriously, I enjoy your occansional news worthy rants, you have
a very special insight, although, sometimes maybe over stoked just a bit,
maybe.

Keep those special well-documented responses coming our direction!

PS: The guy wrote that he "ticked" both boxes, so, I assumed / guessed that
indeed he checked to Repair... who knows but I valued your response.



-- Windows Vista
Become Part of The Legacy!



Chad Harris said:
I wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000 for
these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista OS DVD
for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting you're
really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding access to
Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
access to Win RE.

I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
partitions are a fool's crap.

CH
 
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Dale White

Are people still dumb if they paid $650 and only got an upgrade voucher ?
I'm at a loss, I've done a google search for Win RE, but I don't see what
you are talking about..Care to expand ?


Chad Harris said:
wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000 for
these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista OS DVD
for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting you're
really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding access
to
Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
access to Win RE.

I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
partitions are a fool's crap.

CH
 
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Chad Harris

Dale--


I can expand a little. My point was without the OS DVD, you can't reach
most of these tools. WinRE is new for Windows Vista and completely replaces
the recovery console in Windows XP. You should be able to perform most tasks
of recovery console from WinRE. Depending on the problems, many you are
helping with, major problems in Vista, some of them concommitant (or
multiple at a time) might require a more sweeping solution than many of the
fixes and corrections and tweaks we all offer to help.

XP had the Recovery Console, which could do many interesting things outside
Windows, but that has been replaced largely with the Win PE environment and
Win RE environment. However, many people don't realize that although Win RE
is meant to fix Vista so you don't have to use the Recovery Console's
commands (13 of which were original Dos commands), they are available from
the command prompt using Win RE, and some Recovery Console Commands aren't.

XP had F8 options, and Vista can use them as well. But the Win RE team came
up with other ways to fix Vista, and one of them in the Win RE environment
can also be used to fix major system problems even when they don't cause a
no boot, stop error (BSOD) situation.


Here are some links, and here are the solutions I often offer for no boot or
serious "Vista is broken and won't run or runs poorly" problems:

Introducing Win RE (Windows Recovery Environment)
http://blogs.msdn.com/winre/archive/2006/09/18/760295.aspx


The Vista Win RE Team Blog
http://blogs.msdn.com/winre/default.aspx

You can search this for more solutions than show up on the home page.

You can run Startup Repair by putting your Vista DVD in after the
language screen in setup. You can also run System Restore from the same
location.

Here are a number of MSKBs dealing with Win RE:

You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
also sometimes effective):


A Stop error occurs, or the computer stops responding when you try to start
Windows Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us

See the explanation of startup repair at the bottom of the MSKB above.

How to use the Bootrec.exe tool in the Windows Recovery Environment to
troubleshoot and repair startup issues in Windows Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392/en-us

How to troubleshoot scenarios in which the rollback phase was unsuccessful
after you upgrade from Windows XP to Windows Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927523/en-us

After you install a device or update a driver for a device, Windows Vista
may not start
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927525/en-us

**How to Run Startup Repair (From Win RE Environment)

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

Note The computer must be configured to start from a CD or from a DVD. For
information about how to configure the computer to start from a CD or from a
DVD, see the information that came with the computer.
2. Restart the computer. To do this, click Start, click the arrow next to
the Lock button, and then click Restart.

This usually means that you enter bios setup by whatever key or keys
(sometimes there is more than one key that will do it for your model--go to
pc manufacturer site) and configure CD to be first in the boot order.

See for ref:
Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm

Note If you cannot restart the computer by using this method, use the power
button to turn off the computer. Then, turn the computer back on.

3. Set your language preference, and then click Next.

Note In most cases, the startup repair process starts automatically, and you
do not have the option to select it in the System Recovery Options menu.

4. Click Repair your computer.

5. In the System Recovery Options dialog box, click the operating system
that you want to repair, and then click Next.

6. In the System Recovery Options menu, click Startup Repair to start the
repair process.

7. When the repair process is complete, click Finish.

Additional References for Startup Repair With Screenshots:

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore

CH



Dale White said:
Are people still dumb if they paid $650 and only got an upgrade voucher ?
I'm at a loss, I've done a google search for Win RE, but I don't see what
you are talking about..Care to expand ?
 
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algernon bonzo

I think HP does not include a DVD. Only Restore DVDs, if that (I had
to burn my own Restore DVDs with my last HP ( read *LAST* HP).

I got a Toshiba P105 laptop that came with Vista Home Premium
pre-installed and an 'upgrade' dvd that is a full Vista OEM install
DVD in addition to the Restore DVDs.

I thought that was pretty classy of Toshiba. The silky feeling cloth
notebook cover and screen protector sheets were nice touches, too.

I intend to repartiotion my HD to dual boot XP and Vista. I guess I'll
find out then if the OEM Vista DVD works and Vista can be activated.
 
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joe

Chad said:
I wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000
for these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista
OS DVD for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting
you're really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding
access to Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
access to Win RE.

I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
partitions are a fool's crap.

CH


I placed an order for a laptop from the HP website that included the
"system recovery DVD w/Windows Vista Home basic". I did demand access
to the WinRE tools and was told by their customer service that these
tools would be available with the recovery DVD. Were they lying to me?
 
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joe

Chad said:
I wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000
for these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista
OS DVD for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting
you're really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding
access to Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
access to Win RE.

I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
partitions are a fool's crap.

CH


I placed an order for a laptop from the HP website that included
the "system recovery DVD w/Windows Vista Home basic".I did demand
access to the WinRE tools and was told by their customer service
that these tools would be available with the recovery DVD. Were
they lying to me?
 
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