Outllook Express in Vista?

[Jake]

When I install Vista, how will I get access to Outlook express newsgroups. I
understand that Outlook express is not featured in Vista

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

When I install Vista, how will I get access to Outlook express newsgroups.
I
understand that Outlook express is not featured in Vista

OE7 is called Windows Mail in Vista.

Click on this link and it should take you to this newsgroup after you enter
your details:

news://microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

ss.

 

[Tom Lake]

When I install Vista, how will I get access to Outlook express newsgroups.
I
understand that Outlook express is not featured in Vista

Windows Mail can access newsgroups the same as OE did. If they didn't come
over in the upgrade,
add the newsgroup account just the same as you did for OE. Then you'll have
to subscribe to all your
groups again.

Tom Lake

 

[Saucy Lemon]

Use WIndows Mail.

Windows Mail is the successor to Outlook Express. It is similar but not the
same as Outlook Express.

Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so you
can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS Office's
Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

 

[JimR]

When I install Vista, how will I get access to Outlook express newsgroups.
I
understand that Outlook express is not featured in Vista

Windows Mail is included in Vista and replaces Outlook Express.

 

[Tom]

Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so you
can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS Office's
Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does it
have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if set up
as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open Windows mail (or
OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when one can just
simply open WM?

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so you
can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does
it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open Windows
mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
one can just simply open WM?

You misread. If you use the /outnews switch on the Windows Mail shortcut,
the program opens with the email stuff disabled and the program is named
Outlook Newsreader in the titlebar.

ss.

 

[Saucy Lemon]

Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express as
its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:

msimn.exe /outnews

making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).

But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act like a
stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:

msimn.exe /newsonly

Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:

WinMail.exe

so, one could create a short cut such as the following:

"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"

and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the shortcut
"Windows News" or somesuch.

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)

Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so you
can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does
it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open Windows
mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
one can just simply open WM?

 

[Ken Gardner]

This is a great tip. Thanks for posting it.!

Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express
as its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:

msimn.exe /outnews

making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).

But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act like
a stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:

msimn.exe /newsonly

Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:

WinMail.exe

so, one could create a short cut such as the following:

"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"

and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the
shortcut "Windows News" or somesuch.

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)

Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so
you can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does
it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open Windows
mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
one can just simply open WM?

 

[Tom]

That is not what you said; you made it sound as if Outlook can be used as a
newsreader, which it certainly cannot, you specifically stated "or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program", of which it doesn't exist in
Outlook. No
matter how you switch it, you open the Windows Mail executable, not Outlook.
If you open it through Outlook, it opens Winmail.exe no matter.

Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express
as its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:

msimn.exe /outnews

making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).

But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act like
a stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:

msimn.exe /newsonly

Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:

WinMail.exe

so, one could create a short cut such as the following:

"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"

and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the
shortcut "Windows News" or somesuch.

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)

Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so
you can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does
it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open Windows
mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
one can just simply open WM?

 

[Richard Urban]

I believe that is what she did say!

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

That is not what you said; you made it sound as if Outlook can be used as
a
newsreader, which it certainly cannot, you specifically stated "or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program", of which it doesn't exist in
Outlook. No
matter how you switch it, you open the Windows Mail executable, not
Outlook. If you open it through Outlook, it opens Winmail.exe no matter.

Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express
as its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:

msimn.exe /outnews

making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).

But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act
like
a stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:

msimn.exe /newsonly

Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:

WinMail.exe

so, one could create a short cut such as the following:

"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"

and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the
shortcut "Windows News" or somesuch.

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)

Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so
you can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does
it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open
Windows
mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
one can just simply open WM?

 

[Saucy Lemon]

My apologies to you if my wording had you thinking otherwise, I didn't
intend it that way.

Office Outlook has long used Outlook Express as its newsreader program. It
used to start OE with the /outnews switch.

A lot of people when they first got Office Outlook would look to see if they
could use it for newsgroups and found that what really started was Outlook
Express. It was a disappointment, albeit a small one, but it wasn't terribly
important. It would be nice if one could do newsgroups right in Office
Outlook.

Anyway, you can start WinMail.exe with the /outlook switch or with the
/newsonly switch on your own - through a shortcut, say - making it either
Office Outlook's newsreader (/outnews) or a stand-alone (/newsonly).

You can also start WinMail.exe with the /outnews switch *directly from
Office Outlook 2007*. Root around the Customize menu options or Toolbars and
under "Web", sure enough, there's a listing for "News".

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)

That is not what you said; you made it sound as if Outlook can be used as
a
newsreader, which it certainly cannot, you specifically stated "or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program", of which it doesn't exist in
Outlook. No
matter how you switch it, you open the Windows Mail executable, not
Outlook. If you open it through Outlook, it opens Winmail.exe no matter.

Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express
as its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:

msimn.exe /outnews

making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).

But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act
like
a stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:

msimn.exe /newsonly

Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:

WinMail.exe

so, one could create a short cut such as the following:

"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"

and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the
shortcut "Windows News" or somesuch.

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)

Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so
you can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does
it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open
Windows
mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
one can just simply open WM?

 

[Tom]

Saucy, I know all of what you are saying (in Outlook, right click on
toolbar, choose "customize", in the "categories" column of the applet
pop-up, choose "Go", then select "News" from the "command" column and add it
to the toolbar, or to whatever drop list you please) to access the
newsreader, via Winmail.

In either case, creating the shortcuts with or without switches is very
redundant, when one can simply add the Winmail proggy to their taskbar
(Quicklaunch) so it is easily accessible without having to go to the
desktop. But in no sense is Outlook a newsreader, it is solely an Office
email client/calendar/organizer/non-newsreader.

My apologies to you if my wording had you thinking otherwise, I didn't
intend it that way.

Office Outlook has long used Outlook Express as its newsreader program. It
used to start OE with the /outnews switch.

A lot of people when they first got Office Outlook would look to see if
they could use it for newsgroups and found that what really started was
Outlook Express. It was a disappointment, albeit a small one, but it
wasn't terribly important. It would be nice if one could do newsgroups
right in Office Outlook.

Anyway, you can start WinMail.exe with the /outlook switch or with the
/newsonly switch on your own - through a shortcut, say - making it either
Office Outlook's newsreader (/outnews) or a stand-alone (/newsonly).

You can also start WinMail.exe with the /outnews switch *directly from
Office Outlook 2007*. Root around the Customize menu options or Toolbars
and under "Web", sure enough, there's a listing for "News".

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)

That is not what you said; you made it sound as if Outlook can be used as
a
newsreader, which it certainly cannot, you specifically stated "or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program", of which it doesn't exist in
Outlook. No
matter how you switch it, you open the Windows Mail executable, not
Outlook. If you open it through Outlook, it opens Winmail.exe no matter.

Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express
as its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:

msimn.exe /outnews

making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).

But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act
like
a stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:

msimn.exe /newsonly

Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:

WinMail.exe

so, one could create a short cut such as the following:

"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"

and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the
shortcut "Windows News" or somesuch.

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)





Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so
you can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.

Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor
does
it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open
Windows
mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
one can just simply open WM?

 

[Kevin Young]

Unless you go to http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/nntp/ and obtain the
Mapilab NNTP Add-in which does in fact integrate NNTP in Outlook. I am
reading and responding to this thread in Outlook at present. Mapilab
has a 30 day free trial if you would like to try it out.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: February-14-07 12:33 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Conversation: Outllook Express in Vista?
Subject: Re: Outllook Express in Vista?

<snip>

But in no sense is Outlook a newsreader, it is solely an Office
email client/calendar/organizer/non-newsreader.

 

[Saucy Lemon]

That's one cool plug-in. Can one turn off scripting and view the posts in
"plain text" ??

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

That's one cool plug-in. Can one turn off scripting and view the posts in
"plain text" ??

I tried it a while ago. You lose many functions, like flagging and some
other things that I can't remember. It's not useful if you post on usenet a
lot.

ss.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

I believe that is what she did say!

She? Heh, I thought it was a bit of a camp nick.

ss.

 

[Scott]

When I install Vista, how will I get access to Outlook express newsgroups. I
understand that Outlook express is not featured in Vista

The prefect opportunity to try something better!!!!

 

[Kevin Young]

The prefect opportunity to try something better!!!!
--
Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Windows Mail comes with Vista and is the OE replacement. You can read
newsgroups in it. If you require access to http email accounts (i.e.
Hotmail), Windows Mail no longer supports that but you can download Windows
Live Mail desktop (presently in beta) that provides access to POP, IMAP,
HTTP mail as well as RSS Feeds and NNTP Newsgroups.

 

[Scott]

Windows Mail comes with Vista and is the OE replacement. You can read
newsgroups in it. If you require access to http email accounts (i.e.
Hotmail), Windows Mail no longer supports that but you can download Windows
Live Mail desktop (presently in beta) that provides access to POP, IMAP,
HTTP mail as well as RSS Feeds and NNTP Newsgroups.

http://getthunderbird.com