Old version of Thunderbird?

[ms]

The 2 most recent versions of Thunderbird work for awhile, then screw up for
me, multiple copies of OP, etc.

I looked on the TB website, only latest version shown. Oldversions does not
list it.

A link to the old no-install versions, like 0.8, etc.?

Mike Sa

 

[Lutrin]

A link to the old no-install versions, like 0.8, etc.?

Here:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/

You can found the older versions of Thunderbird, but not *portables* if
is that you want

 

[John Jay Smith]

multiple copies of OP

what do you mean by "OP" ?

 

[ms]

what do you mean by "OP" ?

Original Post

 

[ms]

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/

Thanks, just what I was looking for.

These older versions are my last effort with Tbird, after a decade with
Netscape up to Tbird. I used them before, seemed OK. When nothing else
changes, and a program goes wrong after awhile in 2 different OS on 2
different machines, I suspect the program.

Xnews is harder to use, but it works.

Mike Sa

 

[wwwald]

The 2 most recent versions of Thunderbird work for awhile, then
screw up for me, multiple copies of OP, etc.

I looked on the TB website, only latest version shown.
Oldversions does not list it.

A link to the old no-install versions, like 0.8, etc.?

No reason to go back that far & lose so many features...

Try cleaning out your profile first, it sounds like the .msf files
(indexing files for your mail archives) are a bit bogus. You can
safely delete them, but make sure you DO NOT DELETE the files
without an extension (for instance: delete "Inbox.msf" but NOT
"Inbox").

If that doesn't help, try a new profile. Honestly, this is not a
problem that can't be fixed...

Try asking for help at the MozillaZine forums, there's a bunch of
experienced ppl over there.

Greets,
wwwald

 

[ms]

No reason to go back that far & lose so many features...

Try cleaning out your profile first, it sounds like the .msf files
(indexing files for your mail archives) are a bit bogus. You can
safely delete them, but make sure you DO NOT DELETE the files
without an extension (for instance: delete "Inbox.msf" but NOT
"Inbox").

If that doesn't help, try a new profile. Honestly, this is not a
problem that can't be fixed...

Thanks for the info. I tried the ver. 0.9 no-install. Same luck, multiple
copies of OP.

This AM after a cold boot, I cleaned out all Tbird entries in Registry.
Then I ran Tbird 0.9 again, puzzle that it shows my newsgroups when it
should start fresh. Same problem.

I will try as you suggest, see what happens, but would have thought no
registry entries should have done it.

Try asking for help at the MozillaZine forums, there's a bunch of
experienced ppl over there.

Sad to say, that is a waste of time. Twice, I posted about this question,
never got an answer. Maybe the experts think a poster looks first through
40 web pages to see if it's been asked before. I don't have the energy for
that. The Firefox forum is better.

Mike Sa

 

[wwwald]

Thanks for the info. I tried the ver. 0.9 no-install. Same luck,
multiple copies of OP.

As I suspect: this is a problem with your profile and has nothing to do with the software on
itself...

This AM after a cold boot, I cleaned out all Tbird entries in
Registry. Then I ran Tbird 0.9 again, puzzle that it shows my
newsgroups when it should start fresh. Same problem.

That's because it's all stored in your profile, not in the Windows registry. My guess is that a new,
clean profile will solve the problem.

I will try as you suggest, see what happens, but would have thought no
registry entries should have done it.

I agree, I never had to dabble with registry settings no matter how serious the trouble were.

Sad to say, that is a waste of time. Twice, I posted about this
question, never got an answer. Maybe the experts think a poster looks
first through 40 web pages to see if it's been asked before. I don't
have the energy for that. The Firefox forum is better.

You could give it another shot at the Mozilla newsgroups at news.mozilla.org, or on IRC
(irc.mozilla.org, #thunderbird)... sorry to hear that you didn't get usable answers. I hope my
suggestions will fix at least something.

Regards,
wwwald

 

[ms]

A puzzle here.
I looked through every subfolder in the TB 0.9 folder. I don't have any
*.msf files. I located it in a default Profile folder in another partition.
I deleted it, than ran TB. It reloaded ACF, I looked up this post, again my
OP is copied many times.

I don't have a Inbox folder, or newsgroup folders.

Yet, when I run TB, it lists the folders, and lists my newsgroups.
IIRC from TB 1.0.6, it used to have big folders representing the cache of
the newsgroups.

This is a noinstall version, easy to see folder contents.

Advice?

As I suspect: this is a problem with your profile and has nothing to do
with the software on itself...


That's because it's all stored in your profile, not in the Windows
registry. My guess is that a new, clean profile will solve the problem.

I guess when you refer to a new profile, you mean in Account settings, and
my only option would be to delete the correct info and recreate it again?

I agree, I never had to dabble with registry settings no matter how
serious the trouble were.


You could give it another shot at the Mozilla newsgroups at
news.mozilla.org, or on IRC (irc.mozilla.org, #thunderbird)... sorry to
hear that you didn't get usable answers. I hope my suggestions will fix
at least something.

At this point, your advice on above would be helpful.

Thanks

Mike Sa

 

[sablegs94]

\windows\application data\thunderbird

Or wherever you installed Windows. The profile is in there.

 

[Mike Dee]

A puzzle here.
I looked through every subfolder in the TB 0.9 folder. I don't have any
*.msf files. I located it in a default Profile folder in another partition.
I deleted it, than ran TB. It reloaded ACF, I looked up this post, again my
OP is copied many times.

I don't have a Inbox folder, or newsgroup folders.

Dunno what OS you are running, I am assuming Windows. But this page has
the location of your profile in all OS's - Scroll down page to see PATH to
your version and T'bird's profile folder.

<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder>

 

[wwwald]

I looked through every subfolder in the TB 0.9 folder. I don't have
any *.msf files. I located it in a default Profile folder in another
partition. I deleted it, than ran TB. It reloaded ACF, I looked up
this post, again my OP is copied many times.

I don't have a Inbox folder, or newsgroup folders.

Yet, when I run TB, it lists the folders, and lists my newsgroups.
IIRC from TB 1.0.6, it used to have big folders representing the cache
of the newsgroups.

This is a noinstall version, easy to see folder contents.

Advice?

Look further... there should be some .msf files. I'm using TB 1.5.0.2,
my profile folder contains "Mail" and "News" directories, both contain
subfolders for accounts or subscribed groups.
Somewhere in there, there are the MSF files you need to delete. If you
can't find these things, you're probably looking at the wrong profile.

Try the above pages on the Mozilla knowledgebase to check the actual
location of the profile.

Other alternative: just start the profile manager, and make a new
profile (see below). You'll be able to configure the exact location, so
you'll always find the profile without problems and forget about your
current profile.

I guess when you refer to a new profile, you mean in Account settings,
and my only option would be to delete the correct info and recreate it
again?

No! That's just creating a new account in the existing profile. For
creating a new profile, start the TBird profile manager by typing
"thunderbird -P" from commandline. Normally, there's also a profile
manager shortcut in the TBird Start menu folder, IIRC.

Good luck,
wwwald

 

[ms]

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Look further... there should be some .msf files. I'm using TB 1.5.0.2,
my profile folder contains "Mail" and "News" directories, both contain
subfolders for accounts or subscribed groups.
Somewhere in there, there are the MSF files you need to delete. If you
can't find these things, you're probably looking at the wrong profile.

Try the above pages on the Mozilla knowledgebase to check the actual
location of the profile.

Other alternative: just start the profile manager, and make a new
profile (see below). You'll be able to configure the exact location, so
you'll always find the profile without problems and forget about your
current profile.




No! That's just creating a new account in the existing profile. For
creating a new profile, start the TBird profile manager by typing
"thunderbird -P" from commandline. Normally, there's also a profile
manager shortcut in the TBird Start menu folder, IIRC.

Good luck,
wwwald

Thanks to you and Mike Dee.

I was going to research that data, but first needed to post in another
thread in Xnews. Later Xnews screwed up. I tried installing TB 106
again. Momentarily, it works fine.

Before, it worked fine for 6 months, then started problems as in my OP.
So at least the info you folks gave me will be useful the next time.
(which may be tomorrow!)

TB 0.9 as a no-install was, apparently, too limited even to troubleshoot.

I have a new computer, a clean registry in W2K, again a quiet hard
drive, no installs recently, no events, and still programs roll over and
die. I dunno.

Mike Sa

 

[ms]

:




Look further... there should be some .msf files. I'm using TB 1.5.0.2,
my profile folder contains "Mail" and "News" directories, both contain
subfolders for accounts or subscribed groups.
Somewhere in there, there are the MSF files you need to delete. If you
can't find these things, you're probably looking at the wrong profile.

Try the above pages on the Mozilla knowledgebase to check the actual
location of the profile.

Other alternative: just start the profile manager, and make a new
profile (see below). You'll be able to configure the exact location, so
you'll always find the profile without problems and forget about your
current profile.




No! That's just creating a new account in the existing profile. For
creating a new profile, start the TBird profile manager by typing
"thunderbird -P" from commandline. Normally, there's also a profile
manager shortcut in the TBird Start menu folder, IIRC.

Good luck,
wwwald

Well, I thought that data you folks provided would be handy.

This is the next day, no boots, no shutdown, just DUN, today when I
opened TB, some of the posts are multiple, not as bad as before. For no
reason I can fathom, my TB seems to go sour all by itself. Security
checks on hard drive show nothing.

The TB 106 install has the normal folders, so I will look at them.

Mike Sa