Oblivion is jerky on Vista


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Craig Grell

I just put togther a new computer on the weekend and Oblivion is performing
poorly

I have the following
E6700
8800 GTX
2GB RAM

I have exited the sewers at the begining of the game and croseed the water.
I then left the game until the view starts to rotate around the character

I would expect the view to move smooth and seemless around the character
like in Windows XP. Instead the view is jerky and terrible. According to
Oblivion it is fairly consitant at 42fps

I expected Oblivion to play slower on Vista then XP but this is unplayable.

Since I am getting 42fps I dont think it would be the NVidia Drivers

Is there anything that can be done to make this playable?

Thank you
 
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VRG Admin

Craig Grell said:
I just put togther a new computer on the weekend and Oblivion is performing
poorly

I have the following
E6700
8800 GTX
2GB RAM

I have exited the sewers at the begining of the game and croseed the
water. I then left the game until the view starts to rotate around the
character

I would expect the view to move smooth and seemless around the character
like in Windows XP. Instead the view is jerky and terrible. According to
Oblivion it is fairly consitant at 42fps

I expected Oblivion to play slower on Vista then XP but this is
unplayable.

Since I am getting 42fps I dont think it would be the NVidia Drivers

Is there anything that can be done to make this playable?

Thank you
Could be something as simple as defragging your HDD.
Try the new Beta nVidia drivers.

We have a thread with more info on this game, have a look if you want.

VRG Admin
 
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VRG Admin said:
Could be something as simple as defragging your HDD.
Try the new Beta nVidia drivers.

We have a thread with more info on this game, have a look if you want.

VRG Admin
agreed...we have tested this game on the highest graphical settings and it
performed flawlessly
 
A

Andy

OMFG, 42fps, well boohoo.

I wish my 7800 could spit out that many fps. Try deleting your Oblivion .ini
files re-run the game with default settings.

First time I played on my new vista system I copied over my old settings
from XP it crashed, ran like crap, etc. Restarted after removing the INIs
from Documents\My Games\Oblivion (Leave the Saves folder alone) and the
problems went away.

Sorry for the boohoo comment, but at least I gave you a suggestion other
than what VGR Admin and VGR Scotty posted, and I quote, "[snide comment
followed by rude euendo], My game runs great, get the beta drivers,
[derogatory comment]!"

If you're feeling down, install Morrowind, better game.
 
C

Craig Grell

Thanks for the comments and I also did not like VGR using my thread as
advertising and providing no useful comment.

I wasnt posting the fps to brag to just highlight that the game should not
be jerky. I would guess it is not the graphis that is causing this.

I had done a clean install of Vista and Oblivion but maybe in my playing
around something got in the INI file

I have played Oblivion on my old system with all the detail on low. Good
game but felt like I was missing all the eye candy.

Andy said:
OMFG, 42fps, well boohoo.

I wish my 7800 could spit out that many fps. Try deleting your Oblivion
.ini files re-run the game with default settings.

First time I played on my new vista system I copied over my old settings
from XP it crashed, ran like crap, etc. Restarted after removing the INIs
from Documents\My Games\Oblivion (Leave the Saves folder alone) and the
problems went away.

Sorry for the boohoo comment, but at least I gave you a suggestion other
than what VGR Admin and VGR Scotty posted, and I quote, "[snide comment
followed by rude euendo], My game runs great, get the beta drivers,
[derogatory comment]!"

If you're feeling down, install Morrowind, better game.

Craig Grell said:
I just put togther a new computer on the weekend and Oblivion is
performing poorly

I have the following
E6700
8800 GTX
2GB RAM

I have exited the sewers at the begining of the game and croseed the
water. I then left the game until the view starts to rotate around the
character

I would expect the view to move smooth and seemless around the character
like in Windows XP. Instead the view is jerky and terrible. According to
Oblivion it is fairly consitant at 42fps

I expected Oblivion to play slower on Vista then XP but this is
unplayable.

Since I am getting 42fps I dont think it would be the NVidia Drivers

Is there anything that can be done to make this playable?

Thank you
 
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Craig Grell said:
Thanks for the comments and I also did not like VGR using my thread as
advertising and providing no useful comment.
it's a good job it VRG then, and if you read what was posted you'll see that
we gave you a couple of pointers plus a place to go to actually find the
solution, but hey you carry on with the jerky game.
Regards
 
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VRG Admin

Hey Craig,

Your Quote:
"Thanks for the comments and I also did not like VGR using my thread as
advertising and providing no useful comment."

So you didnt read what i posted at all then ?

My Quote:
"We have a thread with more info on this game, have a look if you want."

Games in Alphabetical order.
Driver/Performance issues section.
Plenty of members to offer help and advice.

No need to advertise on here, busy enough site as it is.
Sorry you feel this way.

VRG Admin
 
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Andy

Oblivion runs amazingly well on my system, even though I was running on an
old 754 skt amd64 3000+, nothing ran that great on that system, except
oblivion.

Granted in default mode it tends to have a bit too much pop-up for my
tastes, but it's certainly doable.

Sorry for your stuttering issue (and my scarcasim), if I find something more
constructive i'll post it tonight. :)

Andy

Craig Grell said:
Thanks for the comments and I also did not like VGR using my thread as
advertising and providing no useful comment.

I wasnt posting the fps to brag to just highlight that the game should not
be jerky. I would guess it is not the graphis that is causing this.

I had done a clean install of Vista and Oblivion but maybe in my playing
around something got in the INI file

I have played Oblivion on my old system with all the detail on low. Good
game but felt like I was missing all the eye candy.

Andy said:
OMFG, 42fps, well boohoo.

I wish my 7800 could spit out that many fps. Try deleting your Oblivion
.ini files re-run the game with default settings.

First time I played on my new vista system I copied over my old settings
from XP it crashed, ran like crap, etc. Restarted after removing the INIs
from Documents\My Games\Oblivion (Leave the Saves folder alone) and the
problems went away.

Sorry for the boohoo comment, but at least I gave you a suggestion other
than what VGR Admin and VGR Scotty posted, and I quote, "[snide comment
followed by rude euendo], My game runs great, get the beta drivers,
[derogatory comment]!"

If you're feeling down, install Morrowind, better game.

Craig Grell said:
I just put togther a new computer on the weekend and Oblivion is
performing poorly

I have the following
E6700
8800 GTX
2GB RAM

I have exited the sewers at the begining of the game and croseed the
water. I then left the game until the view starts to rotate around the
character

I would expect the view to move smooth and seemless around the character
like in Windows XP. Instead the view is jerky and terrible. According to
Oblivion it is fairly consitant at 42fps

I expected Oblivion to play slower on Vista then XP but this is
unplayable.

Since I am getting 42fps I dont think it would be the NVidia Drivers

Is there anything that can be done to make this playable?

Thank you
 
A

Andy

OR, instead of forcing him to go to your website you could give him the
"gist" of the solution and say, hey check out my site if that doesn't work
for you.

Glad your website is doing so well, but I think you should apologize, your
post was not that useful, and it was basically an advert for your site. I'm
pretty sure he did read your post.

-A

Don't be so egar to get people on your website, we'll go if were curious,
not if were forced.
 
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Andy said:
OR, instead of forcing him to go to your website you could give him the
"gist" of the solution and say, hey check out my site if that doesn't work
for you.

Glad your website is doing so well, but I think you should apologize, your
post was not that useful, and it was basically an advert for your site.
I'm pretty sure he did read your post.

-A

Don't be so egar to get people on your website, we'll go if were curious,
not if were forced.
Nobody is'forcing' anybody to go our site...we gave him a'gist' of a
solution and also asked him to checkout the site as some people have already
posted about oblivion on there, and we aren't going to apologize for trying
to help someone, I do hope this helps.
 
C

Craig Grell

Thanks Andy,

I do find this one an odd problem

Even when i turn the detail all down it will still be slightly jerky

Last night i started to disable some of the Windows Services not needed for
a gaming computer
UAC
Terminal Services
Windows Search
Superfetch

More info here
http://www.technospot.net/blogs/how-to-tweak-your-vista-performance-part-1/

It is less jerky but something is still wrong.

i double checked the RAM, it is running in dual channel mode and handled a
prime95 tourture test nicely.

Right now i dont think it is the graphics since it is still jerky on the low
detail. i am running the latest beta drivers.

Any idea what the BSTask is in Oblivion? When it is really jerky the BSTask
count starts climbing fast. I haven't found anything on Google regarding
this


I am trying to avoid these VGR comments as they really get on my nerves.
Even worse is they are copying the content from the newsgroup and posting it
on their web site as if they were the source and not the newsgroup.


Andy said:
Oblivion runs amazingly well on my system, even though I was running on an
old 754 skt amd64 3000+, nothing ran that great on that system, except
oblivion.

Granted in default mode it tends to have a bit too much pop-up for my
tastes, but it's certainly doable.

Sorry for your stuttering issue (and my scarcasim), if I find something
more constructive i'll post it tonight. :)

Andy

Craig Grell said:
Thanks for the comments and I also did not like VGR using my thread as
advertising and providing no useful comment.

I wasnt posting the fps to brag to just highlight that the game should
not be jerky. I would guess it is not the graphis that is causing this.

I had done a clean install of Vista and Oblivion but maybe in my playing
around something got in the INI file

I have played Oblivion on my old system with all the detail on low. Good
game but felt like I was missing all the eye candy.

Andy said:
OMFG, 42fps, well boohoo.

I wish my 7800 could spit out that many fps. Try deleting your Oblivion
.ini files re-run the game with default settings.

First time I played on my new vista system I copied over my old settings
from XP it crashed, ran like crap, etc. Restarted after removing the
INIs from Documents\My Games\Oblivion (Leave the Saves folder alone) and
the problems went away.

Sorry for the boohoo comment, but at least I gave you a suggestion other
than what VGR Admin and VGR Scotty posted, and I quote, "[snide comment
followed by rude euendo], My game runs great, get the beta drivers,
[derogatory comment]!"

If you're feeling down, install Morrowind, better game.

I just put togther a new computer on the weekend and Oblivion is
performing poorly

I have the following
E6700
8800 GTX
2GB RAM

I have exited the sewers at the begining of the game and croseed the
water. I then left the game until the view starts to rotate around the
character

I would expect the view to move smooth and seemless around the
character like in Windows XP. Instead the view is jerky and terrible.
According to Oblivion it is fairly consitant at 42fps

I expected Oblivion to play slower on Vista then XP but this is
unplayable.

Since I am getting 42fps I dont think it would be the NVidia Drivers

Is there anything that can be done to make this playable?

Thank you
 
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Drew Boillot

Try turning ON V-Sync and triple buffering.. I know that helps me when
things appear to be jerky on my PC.
Mine runs farely smooth and with out issues, I have the updated patch, as
well as the Knights of the Nine, and silver.. dang.. i can't remember the
name of the expansion now... this may sound odd, but try upping your res a
little,
for grins, you can try disabling things like shadows, or changing how
shadows are rendered, will help a lot with little cost in realism and see if
that doesn't help. and make sure you have up-to-date video drivers AND
motherboard drivers. if you have installed any driver from windows update
I'd seriously check for newer drivers from the manufacture, especially if
they where for your video card, or anything motherboard related.

just my 1/50th
HTH
Drew
 
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Andy

Craig Grell said:
Thanks Andy,

I do find this one an odd problem

Even when i turn the detail all down it will still be slightly jerky

Last night i started to disable some of the Windows Services not needed
for a gaming computer
UAC
Terminal Services
Windows Search
Superfetch

More info here
http://www.technospot.net/blogs/how-to-tweak-your-vista-performance-part-1/

It is less jerky but something is still wrong.

i double checked the RAM, it is running in dual channel mode and handled a
prime95 tourture test nicely.

Right now i dont think it is the graphics since it is still jerky on the
low detail. i am running the latest beta drivers.

Any idea what the BSTask is in Oblivion? When it is really jerky the
BSTask count starts climbing fast. I haven't found anything on Google
regarding this


I am trying to avoid these VGR comments as they really get on my nerves.
Even worse is they are copying the content from the newsgroup and posting
it on their web site as if they were the source and not the newsgroup.
[trimmed]

Yeah, went over to the "site that will not be named" just to see, it's just
a web board with a dozen or so posts and they are importing the Vista usenet
groups. And I think I was right, they need traffic to get those adspace
bucks rollin. It's a good domain name though, maybe if they installed word
press and wrote some original how-tos they'd get some traffic.

BSTask, no idea. Did you try killing one of your CPU cores? (Task Manager,
right-click on Oblivion.exe in Process and Set Affinify to just CPU 0) Just
to test it. I'll have to play some more and see if I can reproduce this one.
I was playing System Shock 2 just now, the only thing I hate about Vista is
when you press escape in SS2 the main menu is in 640x480 and the game runs
at 1600x1200, in XP it took like half a sec to switch resolutions and 1
flicker. Vista takes about 3-5 seconds and flickers 3-4 times. It's just
sad. I'm on the upside down level and realizing playing SS2 without EAX
turned on = sucky, can't tell where things are coming from had 2 assassins
walk right up behind me, scared the beegeezus outta me.

Starting to agree with the whole games for vista being not all that great.
I'm just glad my XP box still works. Well it will work once I put it back
together.
 
V

VRG Admin

Yeah, went over to the "site that will not be named" just to see, it's
just
a web board with a dozen or so posts and they are importing the Vista
usenet groups. And I think I was right, they need traffic to get those
adspace bucks rollin. It's a good domain name though, maybe if they
installed word press and wrote some original how-tos they'd get some
traffic.
A web board with a dozen or so posts........................

Vbulletin Commercial Forum software with 422,161 posts.
Adsense is there so we can add better services for people to use FREE. (Like
the new website that is being developed at the moment)
Thank you, it is a good domain it seems.
Please feel free to assist us in making the forum/site a better place.
All contirbutions are very welcome, also as a member you could point us in
the right direction and also help with original how-to's.

Plese feel free to contact us via email to discuss anything further.

Regards,

Dave Bell

"site that will not be named"
 
K

kronos

have the same configuration as you, but i have 4 gig and use the unofficial
patch. I'm also running on 32bit

1.7.1 - unofficial oblivion patch installer version-baldurash
 
C

Craig Grell

I wasnt able to look at this last night but I did notice this morning that
NVidia has released a new beta driver

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html

I didnt see anything in the release notes that is relevant but I might give
it a try

At this point I am running the games at the same resolution as the Windows
desktop so I dont get the flicker issue

I am trying to avoid dual booting but it may be required once I start
loading the older games.

Andy said:
Craig Grell said:
Thanks Andy,

I do find this one an odd problem

Even when i turn the detail all down it will still be slightly jerky

Last night i started to disable some of the Windows Services not needed
for a gaming computer
UAC
Terminal Services
Windows Search
Superfetch

More info here
http://www.technospot.net/blogs/how-to-tweak-your-vista-performance-part-1/

It is less jerky but something is still wrong.

i double checked the RAM, it is running in dual channel mode and handled
a prime95 tourture test nicely.

Right now i dont think it is the graphics since it is still jerky on the
low detail. i am running the latest beta drivers.

Any idea what the BSTask is in Oblivion? When it is really jerky the
BSTask count starts climbing fast. I haven't found anything on Google
regarding this


I am trying to avoid these VGR comments as they really get on my nerves.
Even worse is they are copying the content from the newsgroup and posting
it on their web site as if they were the source and not the newsgroup.
[trimmed]

Yeah, went over to the "site that will not be named" just to see, it's
just a web board with a dozen or so posts and they are importing the Vista
usenet groups. And I think I was right, they need traffic to get those
adspace bucks rollin. It's a good domain name though, maybe if they
installed word press and wrote some original how-tos they'd get some
traffic.

BSTask, no idea. Did you try killing one of your CPU cores? (Task Manager,
right-click on Oblivion.exe in Process and Set Affinify to just CPU 0)
Just to test it. I'll have to play some more and see if I can reproduce
this one. I was playing System Shock 2 just now, the only thing I hate
about Vista is when you press escape in SS2 the main menu is in 640x480
and the game runs at 1600x1200, in XP it took like half a sec to switch
resolutions and 1 flicker. Vista takes about 3-5 seconds and flickers 3-4
times. It's just sad. I'm on the upside down level and realizing playing
SS2 without EAX turned on = sucky, can't tell where things are coming from
had 2 assassins walk right up behind me, scared the beegeezus outta me.

Starting to agree with the whole games for vista being not all that great.
I'm just glad my XP box still works. Well it will work once I put it back
together.
 
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Craig Grell

I still havent really solved this one.

For now I have dropped my resolution and am currently getting high FPS but
there are still times where the movement is jerky.

I can only guess it is the BSTask but still have not found out what this is.

Craig Grell said:
I wasnt able to look at this last night but I did notice this morning that
NVidia has released a new beta driver

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html

I didnt see anything in the release notes that is relevant but I might
give it a try

At this point I am running the games at the same resolution as the Windows
desktop so I dont get the flicker issue

I am trying to avoid dual booting but it may be required once I start
loading the older games.

Andy said:
Craig Grell said:
Thanks Andy,

I do find this one an odd problem

Even when i turn the detail all down it will still be slightly jerky

Last night i started to disable some of the Windows Services not needed
for a gaming computer
UAC
Terminal Services
Windows Search
Superfetch

More info here
http://www.technospot.net/blogs/how-to-tweak-your-vista-performance-part-1/

It is less jerky but something is still wrong.

i double checked the RAM, it is running in dual channel mode and handled
a prime95 tourture test nicely.

Right now i dont think it is the graphics since it is still jerky on the
low detail. i am running the latest beta drivers.

Any idea what the BSTask is in Oblivion? When it is really jerky the
BSTask count starts climbing fast. I haven't found anything on Google
regarding this


I am trying to avoid these VGR comments as they really get on my nerves.
Even worse is they are copying the content from the newsgroup and
posting it on their web site as if they were the source and not the
newsgroup.
[trimmed]

Yeah, went over to the "site that will not be named" just to see, it's
just a web board with a dozen or so posts and they are importing the
Vista usenet groups. And I think I was right, they need traffic to get
those adspace bucks rollin. It's a good domain name though, maybe if they
installed word press and wrote some original how-tos they'd get some
traffic.

BSTask, no idea. Did you try killing one of your CPU cores? (Task
Manager, right-click on Oblivion.exe in Process and Set Affinify to just
CPU 0) Just to test it. I'll have to play some more and see if I can
reproduce this one. I was playing System Shock 2 just now, the only thing
I hate about Vista is when you press escape in SS2 the main menu is in
640x480 and the game runs at 1600x1200, in XP it took like half a sec to
switch resolutions and 1 flicker. Vista takes about 3-5 seconds and
flickers 3-4 times. It's just sad. I'm on the upside down level and
realizing playing SS2 without EAX turned on = sucky, can't tell where
things are coming from had 2 assassins walk right up behind me, scared
the beegeezus outta me.

Starting to agree with the whole games for vista being not all that
great. I'm just glad my XP box still works. Well it will work once I put
it back together.
 
A

Andy

Craig Grell said:
I still havent really solved this one.

For now I have dropped my resolution and am currently getting high FPS but
there are still times where the movement is jerky.

I can only guess it is the BSTask but still have not found out what this
is.
I haven't figured it out either Craig, and now i'm noticeing the same
problem. It only seems to happen when I go outside for a moment, not sure if
it's the foliage or what, but it'll start "stuttering", sometimes really
bad. everything looks like a slide show.

I did narrow down why my game was crashing at startup though.

In the Compatibility Tab if I enable the "Disable Desktop Composition"
option, all my problems go away. I don't have to run in XP mode or
Administrator mode. That fixed the startup crash, but the stuttering is
still there.

I downloaded drivers for nVidia from Guru3D, apparently they get releases
for video card drivers like a couple days before they go live on nVidia. so
I'm running a "160" version, I forget which off hand.

Ah well,
-A.
 
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Andy

VRG Admin said:
A web board with a dozen or so posts........................

Vbulletin Commercial Forum software with 422,161 posts.
I didn't see any of those when I went there. Didn't feel like making an
account. First impression wasn't that great. Might want to work on the
presentation.
Adsense is there so we can add better services for people to use FREE.
(Like the new website that is being developed at the moment)
Let me know when it goes up.
Please feel free to assist us in making the forum/site a better place.
All contirbutions are very welcome, also as a member you could point us in
the right direction and also help with original how-to's.
This a paying job?

-A.
 
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VRG Admin

As far as the little war going on here regarding this VRG site, this
pretty much pissed me off as well. Gave you some basic "is your
computer plugged in" type suggestions then suggested going to their
site for the "answer". I went there of course because im desperate,
and found a thread that had 2 freaking posts and basically says "works
great for me, by the way, Bethesda doesnt support vista". Hey great,
im glad it works fine for you. I hate those completley useless types
of answers. I have found mutliple sources seeking to provide vista
compatibility information stating that there is obvious stutter. This
is a very real issue for a lot of people! I DONT CARE IF IT WORKS FOR
YOU THIS SUCKS! :mad:
@miker

If you had spent a little more time on the forum instead of flaming it you
would have found the problem.
Its common in 90+% of all systems that are running Vista and Oblivion.
Sorry that you are too pig headed and ignorant to try the "search" button.
We help a vast number of people on VRG, granted not all members claim to be
experts or have the most up to date systems.
But as we have found every bit of help is getting people closer to the
solution.
A few people on here have the wrong idea about VRG.
It was set up to help people, for FREE! by every day Vista Users.
How many Games companies out there have a free support system ?
Those that do declare the game is not yet "Vista" compatible.
Let me see, Oblivion seems to be one of them.
Nice that we are at least solving these problems, or at our very best trying
to solve them.

Please feel free to contact me via email and discuss how bad VRG is, or just
continue to act like a spoilt 6 year old on here.

VRG Admin

www.VistaReadyGames.com
 

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