O.T. Can I load XP to a flash drive ?

M

magineer02

I recently upgraded from a Dell 8200 with XP to a Dell
XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1 with
Spywareblaster, Avast, and Windows firewall.

(1) TB HD
Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.40 GHz
Ram 12.0 GB
System type : 64-bit operating system


I use Dell Image Expert 2000 software along with a Sony
MVC FD92 digital camera which is equipped with a
memory stick and a 3.5 drive. and upload my pictures
via a USB cable to the computer.

Now with the 8500 computer the camera no longer functions
because it isn't compatible with Windows 7 to upload the
pictures.

I've searched the Sony site for the latest drivers but
they only had XP. Nevertheless I tried downloading it
but still the camera doesn't function.

My question is this; can I install XP on a 32GB flash
drive and insert it so that I can use my camera via
another USB port?

Thanks,
Robert
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

I recently upgraded from a Dell 8200 with XP to a Dell
XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1 with
Spywareblaster, Avast, and Windows firewall.

(1) TB HD
Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.40 GHz
Ram 12.0 GB
System type : 64-bit operating system


I use Dell Image Expert 2000 software along with a Sony
MVC FD92 digital camera which is equipped with a
memory stick and a 3.5 drive. and upload my pictures
via a USB cable to the computer.

Now with the 8500 computer the camera no longer functions
because it isn't compatible with Windows 7 to upload the
pictures.

I've searched the Sony site for the latest drivers but
they only had XP. Nevertheless I tried downloading it
but still the camera doesn't function.

My question is this; can I install XP on a 32GB flash
drive and insert it so that I can use my camera via
another USB port?


Why not simply buy a USB SD card reader? They are very inexpensive
(under $2 US), very easy to use, and don't use the cameras's battery.
I greatly prefer them to connecting the camera directly. I have two
such readers--one that I keep on my desk and another that I keep in my
laptop bag for use when traveling.
 
P

Paul

I recently upgraded from a Dell 8200 with XP to a Dell
XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1 with
Spywareblaster, Avast, and Windows firewall.

(1) TB HD
Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.40 GHz
Ram 12.0 GB
System type : 64-bit operating system


I use Dell Image Expert 2000 software along with a Sony
MVC FD92 digital camera which is equipped with a
memory stick and a 3.5 drive. and upload my pictures
via a USB cable to the computer.

Now with the 8500 computer the camera no longer functions
because it isn't compatible with Windows 7 to upload the
pictures.

I've searched the Sony site for the latest drivers but
they only had XP. Nevertheless I tried downloading it
but still the camera doesn't function.

My question is this; can I install XP on a 32GB flash
drive and insert it so that I can use my camera via
another USB port?

Thanks,
Robert

Your XPS 8500 has a card reader at the top front of the computer
Your Mavica FD92 memory stick chip, might fit in the MS slot in
the lower right, like this one. Be careful to inspect it is the
right size, and the number of contacts seems to match. By transferring
using the Memory Stick (MS) directly, you avoid any need for
USB software.

SM +--------+ +---------+ miniMMC
xD +--------+ +---------+ SD/RS

CF +----------+ +------+ MS / Pro <---- try this slot
MD +----------+ +------+ Duo

On my camera, if I insert my SD from the camera, it shows
up as a disk drive. And I can copy off my pictures that
way, without installing the Canon software that came with the camera.

HTH,
Paul
 
M

magineer02

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I never thought of that. Actually,
I had no idea what those slots were for and Dell
doesn't provide any information. I knew they were
connections of some kind but didn't know for what?

The slot you indicated (MS/Pro) does seem about the
right size and does seem to have the right configuration
but assuming I'm wrong can this screw up my computer?

Robert
 
M

magineer02

That's a good idea, and I may do that
in order to not put my computer at risk.

Thanks,
Robert
 
P

Paul

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I never thought of that. Actually,
I had no idea what those slots were for and Dell
doesn't provide any information. I knew they were
connections of some kind but didn't know for what?

The slot you indicated (MS/Pro) does seem about the
right size and does seem to have the right configuration
but assuming I'm wrong can this screw up my computer?

Robert

You can buy that function as a stand alone device if you want.
This adapter takes a member of the MS family, in the single
slot on it.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Memory-Stick...==/$(KGrHqYOKkIE5US3zW)BBOf,fUKC-Q~~60_35.JPG

For example, my camera uses SD, and I bought an SD to USB for it.
You can get single slot portable USB devices, to solve the problem.
This way, I don't need to use the USB cable that came with the camera.

http://www.dynexproducts.com/products/computer-accessories/DX-CR112.html

The advantage of a small adapter like that, is you can move it
from computer to computer, and if you break it, it's easier to
replace.

When the computer has a card reader, sometimes they try to support
too many formats, and then the thing uses tiny holders for some
of the formats, and the component parts are too fragile and they
get broken. As long as you examine yours and it doesn't look
too flimsy or fragile, give it a try.

The MS should look like a disk drive, and you should be able to copy the
files off it.

One problem I had with SD, was making sure it was turned the right way.

Paul
 
D

dadiOH

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I never thought of that. Actually,
I had no idea what those slots were for and Dell
doesn't provide any information. I knew they were
connections of some kind but didn't know for what?

Dell provides the information, you just have to have the wit to read it. It
is in the manual. It is in the "quick start". They even show you drawings.
___________________
The slot you indicated (MS/Pro) does seem about the
right size and does seem to have the right configuration
but assuming I'm wrong can this screw up my computer?

In your case, probably so. RTFM.


--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net
 
M

magineer02

Another person just gave me a new digital camera
with a SDHC memory card so I assume I can plug
this into the SD/RS slot above the MS/Pro slot?

Robert
 
P

Paul

Another person just gave me a new digital camera
with a SDHC memory card so I assume I can plug
this into the SD/RS slot above the MS/Pro slot?

Robert

Well, that's what those tiny labels in the "getting
started" are for. It's an eye chart test :)

SM +--------+ +---------+ miniMMC <--- right dimensions ???
xD +--------+ +---------+ SD/RS

CF +----------+ +------+ MS / Pro
MD +----------+ +------+ Duo

http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx279/NewHouseElectronics/xps8500_038.jpg?t=1339601117

*******

http://pinouts.ru/Memory/sdcard_pinout.shtml

"SD cards are based on the older Multi Media Card (MMC) format,
but most are physically slightly thicker than MMC cards."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard#RS-MMC_and_MD-MMC

"RS-MMC and MD-MMC

The RS-MMC uses a simple mechanical adapter to elongate
the card so it can be used in any MMC (or SD) slot."

So I gather it's one set of pins, but somehow it would need
guidance so one of the smaller formats with compatible contacts,
touch the contacts in your reader. The pictures of your card
reader are "all-black", so I can't see any details at all.

Your SD on the other hand, probably fits without any tricks.

HTH,
Paul
 
M

magineer02

I did not realize what those slots
were for and yes I did try and look
them up.

I want to thank you, Ken and Paul for
all your good advice and helping me.

Robert
 
P

Paul in Houston TX

I recently upgraded from a Dell 8200 with XP to a Dell
XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1 with
Spywareblaster, Avast, and Windows firewall.

(1) TB HD
Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.40 GHz
Ram 12.0 GB
System type : 64-bit operating system


I use Dell Image Expert 2000 software along with a Sony
MVC FD92 digital camera which is equipped with a
memory stick and a 3.5 drive. and upload my pictures
via a USB cable to the computer.

Now with the 8500 computer the camera no longer functions
because it isn't compatible with Windows 7 to upload the
pictures.

I've searched the Sony site for the latest drivers but
they only had XP. Nevertheless I tried downloading it
but still the camera doesn't function.

My question is this; can I install XP on a 32GB flash
drive and insert it so that I can use my camera via
another USB port?

Thanks,
Robert

Most photogs pop the xD card out of the camera and
into the computer. They rarely if ever use usb.
The reason is speed and power requirements.
A class 10 card is very fast on data transfer.
 
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Paul

Paul said:
Most photogs pop the xD card out of the camera and
into the computer. They rarely if ever use usb.
The reason is speed and power requirements.
A class 10 card is very fast on data transfer.

I think the XPS 8500 still uses USB for the card reader
on the front panel. From the owners manual PDF file...

"Connect the Media-Card Reader cable to the system board connector
F_USB1. See "System-Board Components" on page 21."

That would be USB2, with a max of around 30MB/sec or so.
Plenty for a Class 10 (10MB/sec).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital

Whereas UHS will need something USB3 flavored, for best results.
I see UHS-I on Newegg, but no UHS-II yet. You'd probably
need a pretty modern camera or recording device, to use those.

Paul
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

I did not realize what those slots
were for and yes I did try and look
them up.

I want to thank you, Ken and Paul for
all your good advice and helping me.


You're welcome. Glad to help.
 
P

Paul in Houston TX

Paul said:
I think the XPS 8500 still uses USB for the card reader
on the front panel. From the owners manual PDF file...

"Connect the Media-Card Reader cable to the system board connector
F_USB1. See "System-Board Components" on page 21."

That would be USB2, with a max of around 30MB/sec or so.
Plenty for a Class 10 (10MB/sec).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital

Whereas UHS will need something USB3 flavored, for best results.
I see UHS-I on Newegg, but no UHS-II yet. You'd probably
need a pretty modern camera or recording device, to use those.

Paul

I forgot about internal connections. My old computer internally was
usb cable from the card reader to a usb header on the m/b.
It ran at usb 1. It sometimes ran at usb 2, when it felt like it.
The new one is also usb but I have USB-3 enabled for that header.
I got a Class 10, UHS-1 card when I got the new camera.
Do I need UHS-1 and USB-3? Not at all. But it was fun to play with!
 
D

dadiOH

My question is this; can I install XP on a 32GB flash
drive and insert it so that I can use my camera via
another USB port?

You could install virtual machine software such as Virtual Box, install XP
into the virtual machine it makes and use XP that way. That's what I'm doing
at the moment AAMOF. My new laptop came with Win 8, nothing resembling a
viable email program so I used VB and XP so I could have Outlook Express
back.

Simpler to just use the card slot to read the camera memory card.


--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net
 
A

Ammammata

Il giorno Fri 21 Jun 2013 04:11:03a, ** inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio (e-mail address removed). Vediamo cosa scrisse:
with Windows 7 Professional

this version allows you to install XP Mode for free in a virtual machine
 

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